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Offline AmberSoler
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This "hero" is the least of my concerns... :) It's a flawed practice to look for logical "holes" in a set of words, which is what any post is, and it's simply inherent to some people... Even if everyone perfectly understands what is being discussed, there will always be someone who pretends not to understand anything and starts nitpicking at the words... Words, unfortunately, are not perfect.
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I would like to ask AmberSoler to respond to my post #689, page 23, once again. Thank you in advance.
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
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I have more questions.
to AmberSoler: for example, if you simply get into a boat (I mean in my save) with one fairy and a golden dragon and then try to enter an oasis, there will still be too few moves, but if you dismiss one of the creatures, there will be plenty. Why is this, and is it a bug?
I personally replaced the dragon with a troglodyte, dismissed the troglodyte, and then got into the boat, and then everything was fine.
The reason might be that in one case you opened the hero window, and in the other, you didn't... And the units are not the issue here... It needs to be tested... Because it's not clear what exactly you did... Check this specific point.
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Dear Kyle, please register me (if I'm not too late) for the 5th stage of the offline tournament. I submitted the corresponding application on June 15, 2007, via the link "Who wants to participate in offline tournaments?".
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Dear Kyle, please register me (if I'm not too late) for the 5th stage of the offline tournament. I submitted the corresponding application on June 15, 2007, via the link "Who wants to participate in offline tournaments?".
Download the save file and play; your nickname will be added to the participant table after the weekend.
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Phew, our beloved blitz ends on Wednesday. :( It was so nice to spend an hour or two (or maybe even a whole day) solving the ingenious puzzles of this great game. :smile54: What awaits us next? :smile12:
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Phew, our beloved blitz ends on Wednesday. :( It was so nice to spend an hour or two (or maybe even another day) solving the ingenious puzzles of this great game. :smile54: What awaits us next? :smile12:

And next, as AmberSoler said, there are VACATIONS, I hope not for long... Personally, I would gladly spend another week solving such "puzzles". :)
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No offense intended, but you've already explained it once... I'm saying this because, without your explanations, it would be easier for you to defend your position. But now, loopholes have appeared, and one of them has been exploited by a "hero" who is apparently currently "applying for a patent" on what he claims is his own invention.
But how could he not explain it? What should players with version 3.0 do if, during a Walkthrough, they have a sailor's hat and need to cross a stream in one turn and continue on land? Answer me that question. I'm asking Dmitry A.S. first. If you don't respond, the question will go to AmberSoler :)
P.S. I'm saying this because even if AmberSoler hadn't explained anything, players would still unintentionally use this bug in version 3.0. And it will be used. Either we need to prohibit everyone from getting off the boat on the same day they get on, or I don't understand what I'm saying wrong?

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This "hero" is the least of my concerns... :) The flawed practice of looking for logical "loopholes" in a set of words, which is what any post is, is simply inherent in him... Even if everyone absolutely understands what is being discussed, there will always be someone who pretends not to understand anything and starts nitpicking at the words... Words, unfortunately, are not perfect.
AmberSoler, I think you misunderstood. I believe Dmitry A.S. was referring to Radik, not me. I'm not applying for any patents because I didn't get good results from this blitz and didn't take advantage of any loophole :D And you're referring to me in your post. Looking for logical loopholes in a set of words... If only that were the case :) Usually, this set of words is what the author uses to explain the RULES or AMENDMENTS to them. What logical "loopholes" can we talk about when it comes to such things! The rules should not give rise to ambiguous interpretations, as Dmitry A.S. rightly pointed out.
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5. In this case, the Walkthrough provided by Radik formally falls under the note set out in the previous paragraph. Escaping by bribing the guards in order to be hired in his hometown is sufficient grounds for using the Sailor's Hat. The hero had no other way to get to the city. So, I have no formal complaints here. Let's leave everything as it is.
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This is essentially what I was proving and defending, meaning that if a player is playing on version 3.0 (which is allowed), I absolutely agree with AmberSoler's decision in this case. I hope there will be no further disputes about this, although players with version 3.0 will fully use the Admiral's Hat, just like players with version 3.2
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P.S. My point is that even if AmberSoler hadn't explained anything, players would still unintentionally use this bug in version 3.0 :) And they will continue to use it. Either we need to prohibit everyone from disembarking on the same day they embark. I don't understand what I'm saying that's wrong?
You should play on version 3.2, and that's all... Download the patch and install it in the root folder... It can't not work... Otherwise, players using different versions of the game are not on a level playing field. And there's no need to overcomplicate things.

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AmberSoler, I think you misunderstood. Dmitry AS, I believe, meant not me, but Radik. I haven't applied for any "patents" because I didn't get good results from this blitz and didn't take advantage of any loophole :D But you're referring to me in your post :)
Iron, don't overestimate yourself! :) I meant some abstract person, of which there are always plenty in any argument, and who confuses things more than they help to clarify the essence of the issue... And interpretations of the rules are no exception.
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You should play on version 3.2, and that's all there is to it... Download the patch and install it in the root folder... It shouldn't fail to work... Besides, players using different versions of the game are not on equal footing anyway. And there's no need to overcomplicate things.
I downloaded the patch from two sources – from the links provided by VDV and from your links. The result is the same. Everything runs without errors, but the version doesn't change if you look at the file properties, and it's also visible in the game. I saw a few more posts on the forum from people who have the same problem. I think I installed the game from the "Golden Heroes" disc, which contains Heroes 1, 2, 3, and 4. Actually, I didn't start complicating anything. I didn't set the ban on sea bonuses, I didn't provide explanations for this ban, and I didn't critically use it in my Walkthrough, although I did briefly go ashore just to take the money quest, and then immediately got back on the ship and sailed to complete the map (i.e., I ran on land as little as possible and didn't get the Blade). And I wasn't the one attacking Radik for following the rules. So, don't try to shift the blame for complicating things onto me. I gave you advice on how to simplify things – you think that's not quite right. You keep advising me to run the tournament myself – but I won't. But I will play. And since I'm a player, I have the same rights as everyone else to participate in discussions on any issues related to the tournament and the tournament rules.
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[/U]Iron, don't overestimate yourself! :) I meant some abstract person, of whom there are always plenty in any argument and who confuses things more than helps to understand the essence of the issue... And interpretations of the rules are no exception.
Based on your posts with Dmitry AS, it's unclear who you're referring to – just say it directly so people don't have to guess. Or did Dmitry AS also mean an abstract person? And what was the argument about? :D
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HELP. This is my first time participating in a tournament, and I'm submitting my save file. Could you please tell me how to submit my saved game from the completed 5th stage of the Blitz Tournament in Heroes of Might and Magic? I hope to see my registered nickname in the list of participants for the 5th stage after the weekend. Thank you in advance for your help!
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Yes, I downloaded the patch from two places - using the links from VDV and your links. The result is the same.
We had the same problem... Then Yurka just downloaded the exe file... everything works - we now have 3.2... Try it - it should help.

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HELP. This is my first time participating in a Tournament, and I am submitting my save. Please tell me how to submit my saved game from the 5th stage of the Blitz Tournament in HMM. I hope to see my registered nickname in the list of participants for the 5th stage after the weekend. Thank you in advance for your help:smile01:!
Did you make the last save? Did you name it correctly? If so, read the rules on the 1st page again to see how to do it. Then just take it and send it to Kyle (or rather, to both addresses)... The addresses are posted there too, on the 1st page of this topic. Good luck!
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We had the same problem... Then Yurka just downloaded the exe file... everything works - we now have 3.2... Try it - it should help
Okay, give me a link where to download it. And also, is this the same exe file where you have problems with magic? Meaning, is the slowdown not at the right level?
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Okay, give me a link where I can download it. And also, isn't this the save file where you had problems with magic? Meaning, the slowdown isn't at the right level?
No... this was for TE, and there weren't any problems there – it's a special tournament version... and a lot of things have been changed to improve the balance.

As for the executable file, I'll definitely upload it... but not today, okay?
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Well, give me a link where I can download it. And also, isn't this the save file where you had problems with magic? Meaning, the slowdown isn't at the right level, is it?
http://www.heroesportal.net/file.php?file=/files/information/2/Heroes3.exe

The slowdown not being at the right level is in The Eastern Expedition. In SoD 3.2, everything is fine... :)
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