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It seems there are no problems with Navirius's execution for now.
If Ormhild is right (perhaps the only problems might arise during redirection; it's unlikely she's lying to us), then my list is as follows:
Navirius
Tizetrios-Aris (perhaps only one of them is a conspirator who voted against Erseida)
Lady Aravella-Ophelia-Gor, that is, three people for one or two roles, depending on Narfina.
Most likely - Navirius, Tizetrios, Ophelia, Narfina. Or Navirius, Tizetrios, Ophelia, Gor.
Yes, I tend to believe that the king's suspicions about Ophelia are based on something. Therefore, I am more inclined to include her among the conspirators than Aravella or Gor.
Videmus magis
Тизетрий
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Tizetria, who do you suspect?
I suspect Aris and, until tonight, the princess. I am inclined to believe Selenide and Lady Aravella. I am somewhat confused by the information obtained, which relates to Ormhild and Ophelia, but I am inclined to believe these girls; the information obtained seems too absurd. I am surprised by some of Sir Gor's actions, but perhaps love in elune has affected him. I'm afraid I have nothing to say about the rest.
Эльмер Второй
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That's why I'm more inclined to include her among the conspirators than Aravella.
However, it might not be a good idea to do so.
Сэр Гор
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The execution is going suspiciously smoothly... If the conspirators did steal the vote, then we can already order fresh coffins from Aris.
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Again, according to the newspaper, Ophelia was killed, and the maniac and gunman are already dead. Therefore, she is not Mafia. Or am I misunderstanding something?
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Again, according to the newspaper, Ophelia was killed, and the maniac and sharpshooter are already dead. Therefore, she is not Mafia. Or am I misunderstanding something?
This is one of the versions, perhaps the most likely. But there are other versions that should not be completely ruled out, as we do not know the roles of some of the killed. But I would like to believe in her innocence.
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Where is Navirius? Let him defend himself... At least let him try...
Офелия
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Hmm... I wouldn't be surprised if I'm completely wrong and the real conspirators turn out to be Amael and Aravella.
However, I'm not ready to vote against them right now. I've already mentioned who I might vote against.
Well, excuse me, but what tone should I have towards someone so brazenly suggesting they gut me?Amael
Seriously? Am I supposed to post in the thread about every single one of my "heroic" feats, like some people do?
Oh, right, it's better to pretend to be the smartest, organizing the peaceful players and supposedly searching for clues behind the scenes.
Alright, now about the suspicions. I trust Tizetrium the most because of his deduction, but we can't rule out the possibility that he's a conspirator who exposed the murderer. I somewhat trust His Majesty because he always spoke to the point and was clear. I didn't trust Arisu initially – he acted in direct opposition to the king, only causing confusion. But now, my gut tells me that he's just a confused innocent. I'm inclined to trust Ophelia because someone tried to kill her, and it was likely the conspirators. Also, Ormhild – I haven't noticed any strange actions from her, and my gut feeling is the same. Sir Gor and Lady Aravella... I distrust them more because of their lower activity; they might just be cautious conspirators. Navirius also doesn't inspire confidence, especially because of his almost baseless vote to execute Amael. And, of course, my dear Amael! I'll keep suspecting you until you finally explain the basis for suspecting me! And also, that performance of yours with Hasumi on the first day...
Cancel the autopsy of Amael, execute Navirius. Now, this seems more justified to me.
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What’s going on here?:confused:Elmer the Second
Nevertheless, I think it would be right to execute Navirius...
I wonder what Navirius thinks about this.Navirius believes this is a bad idea, Your Majesty.Ormhild
He refused to buy the plague rats. It’s purely a matter of money...
And no one even offered me these plague rats of yours. I wanted one for experiments, but for that, I needed a live one, and Tyur was only selling dead ones.(((((Sir Gore
Dear Ormhild, I will repeat again, you are playing too aggressively. Even if you really are who you claim to be, the GM may very well ban you for such behavior. Be careful.
Sir Gore
Well, let's believe it.
City 11 is dead anyway. If Ormhild is telling the truth, then this is 100% an execution.
Excellent. Your Majesty, I have always considered Sir Gore to be a dubious person, and now I am convinced of this. It is necessary to expel this alcoholic from the army. And even better, hang him to hell, so that others will not dare to do the same.:smile51:Aris Ectabon
Okay, execute Navirius or whatever his name is.
Another vote-adder?:mad:Ophelia
Since we need a unanimous vote, I will add my vote against Navirius, Then I have an important sermon, and I will most likely not be able to attend the city council meeting.
They would do better to turn on their brains, you damned cultists...:(Sir Gore
The execution is going suspiciously smoothly...
Indeed! Your plan is working perfectly... You sold the king for a bottle of ale, you scoundrel!Ormhild
Where is Navirius? Let him defend himself... At least try...
Lady, do you remember the guy you tried to sell a batch of plague rats to today? Did you see his face? Just remember well, we have an unstable situation in the city now, people are angry, they might give the wrong directions...
Um, you see, my lady, you mentioned the night meetings and the heads of the lizards too often...
Эльмер Второй
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I wonder if the fifth Mafia game is even still being developed. The situation is becoming confusing, so I'll vote tomorrow.
Амаэль
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Excellent. Your Majesty, I have always considered Sir Gore to be a dubious character, and now I am convinced of it. It is necessary to expel this alcoholic from the army. And even better, hang him to hell so that others will not dare to do the same.
How did you manage to attack the least suspicious of all the potential conspirators? As of today, that's certainly true... Is anyone still trying to figure out the Warrior of the Burning Rose?
Videmus magis
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at least, I didn't get anything useful from studying books on the history of the warriors of the Flaming Rose :(
I have to go. I'm afraid I won't be able to come back today. Although I will try very hard to be here at least until the end. Now I will make a list of who I trust and who I don't.
Added 1 hour 16 minutes ago Until there is a solution to the clue, it will be pure psychology. And without role-playing, sorry. I don't believe that Man is alive. The description of yesterday's execution was too unambiguous.
King Elmer the Second. Active, searching, I would like to believe in his peacefulness, BUT... But I didn't like how he immediately accused me of being a Mafia member and even found schemes according to which I could be a conspirator, despite the fact that today I was saved from them only by a miracle. Is this an overestimation of the peacefulness or a cunning Mafia plan: it didn't work at night, we'll finish it during the day? I also don't like his line of defense for the previous days - "I am already the king, so I cannot be a conspirator." It's convenient, of course ;), but unfortunately, the royal title does not give such a guarantee.
Navirius - it's difficult to say anything, because he is inactive. He became active only today, when the threat of execution loomed. I suspect him precisely because of his behavior. And the fact that he turned out to be on the list of suspects not only with me became the last straw.
Lady Aravella. Inactive. The fact that some respected citizens trust her speaks in her favor. The downside is her inactivity and the block on the second night.
Gor. I don't know what peaceful person you see in him. Random accusations, accusations of those who least resemble conspirators. I don't see any particular attempts to figure things out. Not convincing for me. Either he's stubborn, or he's a conspirator himself.
Aris Ectabon. Again, I only see unsubstantiated accusations without any attempts to figure things out. Either he's stubborn, or he's not. I'm inclined to think that he's not stubborn.
Someone from the above is peaceful, possibly two.
As for the rest, my opinion is still positive, but I don't rule out that I might be wrong about someone I trust.
The fact that Sir Erseid was a maniac breaks my heart. For the first time in a long while, I was charmed by such a pleasant man, and yet he turned out to be a liar! Fortunately, the citizens of our town did not lose their nerve and dealt with this scoundrel. But I am sure that if he had survived, perhaps we could have tried to set him on the right path. Is the power of love not capable of working miracles? Ormhild
Ophelia and Aravella. The latter, it seems, is a liar after all
If your own words are to be believed, Lady Ormhild, then my probability of being a negative is lower than that of all other residents of our already uncomfortable little town. And if you consider me mafia number four, I assure you, that is a misconception. Especially considering that she was, not without a small probability, with Hasumi. You should have ruled out the other negative options for me. Unless, of course, city number 6 was Richard the Ripper, which I suspected at the very beginning of the game. But for now, I prefer to believe that the late Sir Richard was city number 8.
Lady Aravella. Inactive. In her favor is the opinion of some of our respected citizens, whom I am inclined to trust. Against her—her inactivity and the block of the second night.
Lady Aravella... More distrust now due to their lower activity; they could simply be cautious conspirators.
As for blocks, we have already executed one, and we didn't like it. Regarding the so-called inactivity, I see no fault of my own in the fact that all your newspapers and discussions take place when I am either asleep or engaged in laborious procedures to improve my appearance. It is especially difficult for me to devote time to activity on Saturday, as I have a whole heap of chores concerning my estate that I cannot abandon. I think all local women should know and understand that beauty is the guarantee of health, and it is better to take care of oneself and attend to one's appearance than to lose sleep and self-care for the sake of discussions that may not even lead to anything. And considering the state of a woman with a broken heart, you should be ashamed.
It bothers me how easily Sir Navirus is going. Although I have already observed cases where exposed scoundrels went to the chopping block without issue, I am not sure this is a case where they might not care about him, since they now have every chance to defeat us. Given how openly Lady Ormhild announced her capabilities to everyone, I don't think it cost the scoundrels much to lead her away from the right target for the sake of disinformation. On the other hand, it's somehow strange on their part, not knowing who she would go to, to give her the chance to visit one of them and still receive negative indicators. After all, there is a high probability that she could have targeted another maf and ended up getting the correct status. But at the same time, the game might be worth the candle according to their logic. But the way Navirus goes so easily without resistance also does not please me. I will not believe that a city translation was directed toward her. It would be foolish, seeing her presumed role, to disinform her so pointlessly.
Since my role does not possess revealing information, the crazy one seemed like a negative to me, while I tried to believe the brave knight unconditionally; I don't particularly trust my intuition regarding affiliation. I can say that from the start of the game, our king has made me nervous, just as his sister did. But judging by her easy disappearance and the fact that no one really worried about her, I am readily prepared to believe that she was one of us. And therefore, it is difficult for me to brazenly and groundlessly accuse His Majesty. I also don't quite like: Lady Amael, Sir Gor. There is a slight shadow of doubt over the images of Selenid and Tizetria. Aris is a murky, unpleasant type who has lost interest in the life of the city. To some extent, one can understand him, but I do not like such behavior. I will believe Ormhild until city number eight surfaces, proving that Sir Richard was the checker. Given the circumstances, I see practically no grounds not to trust Lady Ophelia. At the same time, I want to scold the city shooter, if he is alive, for inaction, or the doctor, for saving an unlikely negative. But I still prefer to believe Ophelia; her rhetoric is quite peaceful and positive, as is Ormhild's. But in my experience, without sufficient information, it is hard to judge a city game if many negatives are capable of masterfully posing as good guys. Now I've reread the discussions (I didn't erase anything) and thought, perhaps our king is a good guy after all. Then the most suspicious people for me are: Gor, Aris, Amael, Navirus. With a certain probability, Ophelia is a maf, but it's not absolute. If she is a scoundrel, then the successful treatment by our medic only benefited the negatives. Also, I won't rule out that the king's sister was bad, and our GM simply decided not to bother with a replacement (but I still believe more in her being peaceful). I want to believe Selenid and Tizetria only by intuition (i.e., everything is shaky and unfounded), and Ormhild only because of open hints about a role, which might not even have been helpful. I'm not casting a vote for now. I'm afraid to risk it, even though we've practically lost the city.
Considering the experience of previous games, I advise against jumping on low-activity people. I remind you that in the last game, some of the most active were the scoundrels who brazenly manipulated the city. And that same lazy Wish turned out to be the main city. It's just that for some, real-life circumstances are a huge hindrance. It sucks that because of this I have to reveal my IRL identity. But this lack of understanding is infuriating.