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Well, in online play, this can be easily resolved – allow draws, and simply award 3 points for a win and 1 point for a draw. In offline play, a game must be played, although this won't completely protect against match-fixing.
It's a perfectly reasonable option, and it's definitely better than "a draw is only decided by the referee after 2++ turns."
Guys, I'm amazed by the naivety of those who think that match-fixing can be banned or restricted. I've said it a million times: if players want to achieve the same result, and they have even a little bit of intelligence, then it's not a problem for them to do so, and the game situation can be almost anything. The only thing that can be done is to impose a punishment on them, thereby driving them underground, so that other players, viewers, and other "concerned parties" can feel completely at ease. Wicc
I definitely agree with the statement "if you want to pee in the pool, don't do it from the high dive."
Redwhite beat you, and the result should have been in the table, but you know what happened next. Do you feel the difference?
Legally, it's a lie. Since everyone here is so formalistic, the match wasn't formally finished. The judge said: I need one thing - the result. We approached and provided the result. Do you feel the difference?
It's time to take a dump in the pool... I've already expressed all my thoughts in the relevant threads, but the echo of various "IMHOs" just won't die down. Regarding the CIS 2016 situation. 1. The tournament judge made his decision based on his own interpretation of the rules and the situation. That's what judges are for – to make decisions. 2. If I had the authority of a judge, I would disqualify both participants based on a violation of the rule regarding fair and RESPECTFUL play towards other participants. 3. A victory achieved through unfair means cannot be considered complete and legitimate (just as stolen money cannot be considered earned, but it's still money in your pocket). 4. The results of the CIS championships cannot be revised because there is no "body" that has the authority to do so (I hope this is clear to everyone). Each CIS championship is organized and conducted solely by the organizers – at their own risk (and, by the way, the risk increases every year). 5. To the critics who haven't been to any of the CIS championships, I recommend submitting an application to organize and conduct the next CIS championship. It's time to do more than just talk... 6. By the way... I'm out of beer... (going to open a bottle of wine)
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)
"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP
Vigo
9 years ago
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Who's planning on showing up to CIS-2017 with assault rifles?! :smile10: They might just end up getting someone in trouble or bringing such aggressive negativity.))) Redwhait HP
I took 3rd place in a poker tournament :cool:
Not "took," but received. ))) I correctly believed in your pale smile, but I got wrecked by you in some completely random and lucky game.)))
You should give back that bronze medal! ))))))))
And I completely and strongly support the statement that "everyone is entitled to their own opinion!" Seriously, enough with this nonsense already. (((. We need to think about the future, not the past!
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!! Но!... Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...
Legally speaking, it's a lie. Since everyone here is so formalistic, the match wasn't formally concluded. The judge said: I need one thing – the result. We approached and delivered the result. Do you feel the difference?
No one is saying the judge is right:cool:. Think about it yourself, so many people are telling you that this isn't a championship, and you keep arguing and trying to convince them otherwise:cool:.
According to the poll, less than 20 people responded, and none of them were those who attended the championship and, therefore, know the situation completely and from the inside, rather than just "from hearsay."
Dear Heroin_HP, how do you feel about coming to CIS-2017 to showcase your professional skills and compete for the title and prize pool?
Added 2 minutes later Kostya, stop starting/continuing this argument! ((( Next year, come to the Championship and show and tell everything there! )
I'm just defending myself from attacks, nothing more. And I might not be able to come to CIS only if there are very difficult and objective life circumstances. And it will be this way as long as CIS is held.
p.s. There's been a lot of talk here about money and greed. So, friends, your humble servant personally invested his own money in the CIS-2013 prize pool - $300, CIS-2014 - $500. And no one even thanked me for it, and I don't need it. But somehow everyone only remembers the bad things, that's just how people are.
Come on, Konstantin, calm down! Everyone who needs to and is interested remembers and knows everything! Everyone has already expressed their opinion on everything! Stop it! Don't turn into a complete market vendor! (((
Better prepare a feast! I'll be in Minsk at the end of September or beginning of October for work; will you meet me nicely? )))
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!! Но!... Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...
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9 years ago
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=Lizard=, thank you so much for the CIS event in Minsk. For me, it was one of the best trips ever. And the whole organization was at the highest level.
I don't want to upset you, but you're wrong. There are two possibilities: either people aren't telling you directly, or you simply don't want to understand.
You won't upset me. I've spoken with many people face-to-face and I know their opinions. For example, LuckyF was extremely unhappy, and I accepted his position. Falcon doesn't even want to communicate with me, and I also accept this position. Honestly, Roman, you're simply unaware of many things and end up writing aimlessly. I realized that you will never acknowledge me as a champion, and that's fine. The question is, why repeat this 100500 times and bring up non-existent facts?
You won't upset me. I've spoken with many people face-to-face and I know their opinions. For example, LuckyF was extremely unhappy, and I accepted his position. Falcon doesn't even want to communicate with me, and I also accept this position. Honestly, Roman, you're just not aware of many things and you end up writing about irrelevant topics. I realized that you will never acknowledge me as a champion, and that's fine. The question is, why repeat this 100500 times and bring up non-existent facts?
While you're making excuses, I'll keep doing what I'm doing, no hard feelings, it's just a game. And by the way, the facts do exist.
It's sad that besides this topic, which has already become quite tedious, no one is throwing out anything decent.
Bring back Ariputra! :smile29:
Special for you! Dmitry, YOU are the one to blame for everything! If you hadn't snatched the game from Hell in the 3rd round while playing with temperature, we would have seen the final and there wouldn't be any questions about Kostya! Redwhait HP
I took 3rd place in a poker tournament :cool: and I was doing quite fine with money, I have no idea why you're all bringing all this up here. And it's not particularly pleasant to read this, so everyone who wasn't at CIS can just get lost. After the loss in the first round, there wasn't much motivation, and streaming (playing poker, drinking beer) was a more interesting option, so money played no role here at all.
Evgeny, let's be honest, at least with ourselves; I was present during your game with Kostya, and you were very glad that you defeated him. Kostya had chances too, but I don't remember the details since I wasn't following closely—either a catapult decided it, or something else... You wanted to crush Kostya because you play Heroes excellently. And then Kostya blew it by leading you outside.
I repeat: the whole scandal wouldn't have happened if you had handled this discreetly, but you did everything in plain sight and got caught.
MerlinTheMagician
Time to poop in the pool... I believe I've already expressed all my thoughts in the relevant threads, but the ECHO of various "IMHOs" just won't die down. Regarding the CIS-2016 situation. 1. The tournament judge made his decision based on his own interpretation of the rules and the situation. That's why he's the judge—to decide. 2. If I had the functions of a judge, I would have disqualified both participants based on the violation of the rule regarding fair and RESPECTFUL play toward other participants. 3. A victory achieved dishonestly cannot be considered full and valid (just as stolen money cannot be considered earned, but one way or another, the money is already "in the pocket"). 4. The results of the CIS championships are not subject to review, as there is no such "body" that would be entitled to do so (I hope this is clear and obvious to everyone). Each CIS championship is conducted exclusively by the organizers—at their own risk (by the way, the risk increases every year). 5. To the critics who haven't been to a single CIS championship, I recommend applying to organize and host the next CIS. Work with something other than your tongue, so to speak... 6. By the way!.. I've run out of beer... (going to open some wine)
Kiryukh, I won't break it down point by point, but I'll tell you, as Reddi did: let's be honest with ourselves. You have a certain personal dislike (remember Mimino) or perhaps a bias—I don't know the right way to put it, it's your personal business—but IMHO, if someone other than Lizard had been in that spot, you wouldn't be pushing this topic so fiercely. Maybe I'm wrong, just my IMHO. But I support points 4, 5, and especially 6! Vigo
I didn't "take" it, I got hit ))) I correctly believed in your pale smile, but I got run over by you on some absolute garbage and wild luck )))
The bronze medal should be taken from you! ))))))))
And I categorically fully support the statement that "everyone has formed their own opinion"! Really, enough chewing over this crap already (((. We need to think about the future, not the past!
Vityusha, well you know everything about poker, and talking about bad beats at the tournament is the last thing to do, although I myself am terribly upset about how I flew out 6th after 2 bad beats—first Matrosov hit 1 out of 3, then Ilyusha 1 out of 6. But there was also Napalm, who bought 10 or more rebuys and got nothing... In general, Max-Bloodliker's game decided more than our skill. Vanya probably knew this secret, as he took it back and carried it.
2ALL The CIS Championship, IMHO, is just a friendly get-together, and if the participants decided that Lizard is the champion, then so be it.
P.S. Love you all, don't throw too many poops, yeah)