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Well, perhaps we should end this debate... it seems like it's taking too long to explain what I mean, and maybe it's not even necessary. I'm starting to think that we're actually talking about the same thing, but we're "stumbling" over words and definitions. Apparently, good and evil are just good and evil :) Some kind of surreal picture, where one person sees a hippopotamus, another sees a pony, and the third sees something like... it's unclear, but it seems like...
Настоящие герои - не те, пред кем мы преклоняемся, а те, кого мы оплевываем...[/COLOR] ----------------------------- "So much has gone and little is new"
People create topics because they are interested in getting feedback from others about what concerns them. Therefore, prohibiting or regulating the subject matter is, in my opinion, destructive. Some of us (we, in this case) turn opinions into a discussion, which is also not bad, up to a certain point. However, our discussion has somewhat "deviated" from the essence of the topic and has not left room for others to express their opinions specifically on the topic. This is not good, so I agreed with Alexei that these, specifically our, debates should be stopped in this topic.
Настоящие герои - не те, пред кем мы преклоняемся, а те, кого мы оплевываем...[/COLOR] ----------------------------- "So much has gone and little is new"
Tell me, people, what does constantly perceiving the world through the principle of choosing the lesser evil, in all its aspects, lead to? Let's assume that good is the opposite of evil, then choosing the lesser evil to prevent a greater evil is good, which creates a kind of absurdity. Good and evil are also not distinguished by their inherent nature; they are simply evaluations of an event or fact. The main point here is not what happened, but how and who evaluates it. There is no point in these arguments; everyone is saying the same thing, just in different variations (and I read all 171 messages). IT'S BORING. No one said anything new. (Sorry for the unwarranted criticism; I'm leaving...)
If you choose the lesser of two evils, it will still be evil! You need to do good and help others, and then it will be rewarded (but I don't believe in it myself).
What’s the point of preaching something you don’t believe in? It’s better to say what you truly believe. And I believe that there can’t be good for everyone, because everyone has their own path. The same applies to evil. Whatever you do, there will always be those who are wronged.
If there were no evil, how would we define good? And in general, I prefer the concepts of light and darkness over good and evil. It seems simpler that way.
It would be easier if many people didn't equate good with light and evil with darkness. Why don't you ask people and then share your observations? :rolleyes:
All of a person's notions of good and evil, of something or someone, are imposed upon them and cannot be considered true.
И страхи стали реальностью,а боль и страдания - наградой.Хотя и не благословенным началом,все готовятся к последнему СУДУ! Днём и ночью от наших тел,можно слышать крики боли,из-за накопленных нашими душами грехов...
then no opinion will be true, because it is formed under certain (or not quite) circumstances and conditions. Due to the cause-and-effect relationship, it turns out like this...:smile07:
Everything is known in comparison, therefore good is affirmed through evil and vice versa. There are no specific concepts or criteria by which one can determine whether a perfect act is good or evil. Murder is evil, but if, for example, a serial killer is killed, preventing new victims, it's not exactly good, but it's also not evil.
Here's an example, "The Master and Margarita." At the beginning of the novel, there is a quote from Faust: "I am part of that power which eternally wills evil and eternally works good." All the chaos that Woland created forced people to believe in the devil, and through him, in the opposing force, in Jesus, faith in whom had been suppressed. Therefore, in my personal opinion, good is affirmed through evil; these concepts are
Darkness is merely the absence of Light. Light is merely the absence of Darkness. "I am part of that power which eternally wills evil and eternally works good" (Goethe, Faust). We live in a colorful world, and the author tries to judge it in black and white categories (although even in this scale, there is gray). In life, everything is much more complex, because the concepts of Good and Evil are not absolute; each person has their own understanding of good and evil (what a Russian likes, a Chinese person doesn't, roughly, but fair). In some African tribes, things are practiced that are considered absolutely unacceptable in the "civilized" world (obligatory incest or homosexual intercourse as an element of initiation, cannibalism, ritual killings - yes, yes, gentlemen, all this still exists). Damn, as always, I end up rambling: I want to say too much, so I jump from one thought to another. The point is that it is impossible to define Good and Evil; the concepts are too global, capacious, and ambiguous. And even a seemingly unambiguously good deed can, under certain circumstances, lead to Evil (and vice versa). So let's not try to define the indefinable. An example of a level 2*2 creature is Agrail (Raelegh), a demon of dark elf origin. Can you classify him as good or evil? I can't; he has both. And it's always like that; there are no pure colors in nature, and even sunlight is a mixture of all possible colors and shades.
SandroXXL:
That's where the principle of choosing the lesser evil to prevent a greater one comes into play.
But does evil need to be affirmed in order to establish good?
What is the lesser evil? Who is capable of defining the boundaries beyond which the lesser becomes the greater? And the same applies to good. Who determines the line? Do not judge, and you will not be judged.