Cheats Codes — General

VANDAL

5/31/2006 3:07 PM UTC

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Here, you are mistaken. For me personally, games are a genuine art form, just like cinema or literature. We should appreciate and respect games, and using cheats is like violating them.

Pearl

5/31/2006 3:16 PM UTC

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Oh, I love forums... they're at least entertaining...
Well, you can think that way, of course... but I'll stick to my opinion: a game is a way to pass the time, and it can also be a work of art. But since a work of art is inanimate, it doesn't care what happens to it.

I've got a secret that i think you ought to know,
The happy people are the ones who have a soul.

I'm complicated
and i celebrate it!

VANDAL

5/31/2006 3:23 PM UTC

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If for you, a game is just a way to pass the time, then you are clearly not a hardcore player, and Heroes of Might and Magic has always been a hardcore game.

since a work of art is inanimate, it doesn't care what happens to it.

So, if a punk doesn't understand Leonardo's work, can he take a chain or a beard and draw it on the Mona Lisa?

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VDV_forever

5/31/2006 3:24 PM UTC

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VANDAL

You're wrong here. For me personally, games are a genuine art form, just like movies or literature. We should appreciate and respect games, and using cheats is like raping a game.

Excellent formulation! Brilliant! I completely agree.

P.S. I've never used cheats, codes, etc. I don't respect that.

Pearl

5/31/2006 3:25 PM UTC

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Oh well, I was 100,000% sure there would be an example about the Mona Lisa. :-) :-) No, if he buys a copy of the portrait (a reproduction) for his home, he can draw horns on it if he wants! :-)

I've got a secret that i think you ought to know,
The happy people are the ones who have a soul.

I'm complicated
and i celebrate it!

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VANDAL

5/31/2006 3:35 PM UTC

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VDV_forever

Excellent wording! Brilliant! I fully agree.

P.S. I have never used cheats, codes, etc. I don't respect that.

Our man! Respect!!!

Pearl

Oh, I was 100,000% sure there would be an example about the Mona Lisa.
:-) :-)
No, if he buys a copy of the portrait (a reproduction) for his home, he can draw horns on it! :-)

And now answer yourself - who is he after that?

Pearl

5/31/2006 3:49 PM UTC

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He's a punk. He doesn't like Leonardo :-) Da Vinci doesn't have to be liked by everyone. If the punk got moral satisfaction and no one was harmed, what's the problem? P.S. This isn't spam or off-topic; it's a veiled discussion about cheats.

I've got a secret that i think you ought to know,
The happy people are the ones who have a soul.

I'm complicated
and i celebrate it!

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<garkin>

5/31/2006 4:04 PM UTC

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Pearl

I'll stick to my opinion: a game is a way to pass the time, and it can also be a work of art.

You are very wrong ;) a game is a deep psycho-philosophical concept, not just a computer game, of course, but the concept as a whole... in principle, it can even be called art, albeit an incomplete one, like painting or music, but still!!!

Плоды размышлений были съедены червями сомнения...

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Night

5/31/2006 4:08 PM UTC

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Pearl

Oh, you've had your say... but who are you trying to impress? If you don't like cheats, don't use them. But don't judge others either. In online games, it's forbidden, yes. But otherwise...

Well, if someone says "you have to cheat," I can't just sit here quietly. I'll go yell on the balcony:)

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VANDAL

5/31/2006 4:14 PM UTC

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Pearl

He's a punk. He doesn't like Leonardo :-) Da Vinci doesn't have to be liked by everyone.
If the punk got moral satisfaction and no one was harmed, what's the problem?
P.S. This is not spam or off-topic; it's a veiled discussion of cheats.

He's a pervert! You say no one was harmed? What about the Mona Lisa? Or, since it's an inanimate object, can you do whatever you want with it? And what about Leonardo's fans? They won't be happy about this! I don't agree with this approach.

In principle, this can be called art, albeit incomplete, like painting or music, but still!!!

No, it's complete and no worse than others; it just appeared very recently (by these standards), and that's why many people haven't appreciated or understood it. Everything will come with time...

Well, if a man says "we need to cheat," I can't stay silent. I'll go yell on the balcony.

What if it's a woman?

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Pearl

5/31/2006 4:16 PM UTC

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VANDAL

He's a pervert! You say no one was harmed? What about Mona Lisa? Or, since it's an inanimate object, can you do whatever you want with it? And what about Leonardo's fans? They won't be happy about this! I don't agree with this approach.

What if it were a woman?

but this is just a reproduction! The original is fine! Besides, Punk will be doing all this at his own home! He didn't go to the central square and start encouraging others to follow his example! So...
girls can be forgiven for anything :-) And besides, I'm not encouraging anyone to do anything.

I've got a secret that i think you ought to know,
The happy people are the ones who have a soul.

I'm complicated
and i celebrate it!

VANDAL

5/31/2006 4:29 PM UTC

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Yes, there is some truth to that. Some people are actually encouraging the use of cheats. And in general, fans are very unhappy when other people treat the game like this, even if it's just at their own home. After all, unlike the Mona Lisa, the game doesn't have reproductions, and each disc is an original.

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Pearl

5/31/2006 4:32 PM UTC

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VANDAL

There is some truth to that. Some people are even encouraging the use of cheats. And fans are really annoyed when others treat the game like this, even if it's just at their own home. After all, unlike the Mona Lisa, the game doesn't have reproductions, and each disc is an original.

:-) :-) :-)
each disc is a copy of the game. It's the same as a reproduction.
if you're uncomfortable with me sitting here and dreaming about cheats, you should see a doctor :-)

I've got a secret that i think you ought to know,
The happy people are the ones who have a soul.

I'm complicated
and i celebrate it!

Night

5/31/2006 4:33 PM UTC

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Here's an example I found that fits:
You spend the whole day playing, studying the world, the mechanics, yourself, and finding ways to achieve victory. Then, someone comes along and starts playing. Without thinking, they use cheats and just brutally defeats everyone. And why bother putting in the effort when there are cheats?

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Pearl

5/31/2006 4:36 PM UTC

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Night

Here, I found an example that fits:
You spend the whole day playing, studying the world, the mechanics, yourself, and finding ways to achieve victory. Then, someone comes along and starts playing. Without thinking, they enter cheat codes and just brutally defeats everyone. And indeed: why bother when there are CHEATS?

But he's just defeating the computer in his own home! He came home from work, he's tired, and he doesn't have the energy to put effort into the game. He's had enough of life! Why can't he use cheats when he's alone with himself?????
You found "ways to achieve victory" and you're happy. He entered cheat codes, completed the campaign, found out how it all ends, and he

I've got a secret that i think you ought to know,
The happy people are the ones who have a soul.

I'm complicated
and i celebrate it!