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The empire of World 2 somehow saw what was in the collection of the best maps, decided to download and play it... The map is simply catastrophically terrible... Firstly, the plot: It's kind of there, but it's so poorly thought out, everything is so mixed up (Robin Hood, elemental gods, some Maximus, Prince John, Genghis Khan, Merlin, and so on)... As a result, there is no complete plot or overall picture. Secondly: The map's landscape itself is not fully thought out; how did you even manage to complete it? The map has a minimum of traversable areas, and even less; there is no normal path to the objects. I opened it in the editor, and even in the editor, I didn't understand how you could get anywhere without the Flight and Dimension Door spells (which, by the way, are not available). There are many objects that are simply impossible to visit. Then, there are all sorts of surfaces on top of the water (swimming through cursed land and other fields, which is just ridiculous). Creatures standing on the water. Objects and neutrals that you cannot reach. Thirdly: The idea of the game is reduced to finding a passage, accumulating legions, and then just clicking the mouse... Fourthly: Due to the excessive amount of content on the map, it freezes, glitches, lags, and so on... Even if you just click "check map" in the editor, errors will appear. Then, there is a minimum of game space; it is so cluttered and filled that there is no room for neutrals to appear, and as a result, there are glitches and instability. Fifthly: There is a completely incomprehensible bug - the disappearance of the enemy hero (the god of fire). Sixthly: There is only one direction; you are constantly moving only in a set direction, completing quest after quest, and they are all monotonous (first, defeat one hero, then the second, then the third, and so on). There is no variation or alternative. You just run around with one hero, collect thousands and hundreds of creatures in one stack, and just crush the enemy with the same hundreds and thousands of monsters in a stack. In conclusion: It's just a grind, it's just awful, and it's definitely unplayable. I think that with this map, the only questions should be directed to the author.
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The empire of world 2...
The map is simply catastrophically terrible...
Firstly, the plot:
It's there, but it's so poorly thought out, everything is so mixed up (Robin Hood, elemental gods, some Maximus, Prince John, Genghis Khan, Merlin, and the like)... That in the end, there is no complete plot or overall picture.
Secondly:
The map's landscape itself is not fully thought out. How did you even manage to complete this mess? The map has a minimum of traversable areas, and even less. There's no normal path to the objectives. I opened it in the editor, and even in the editor, I couldn't understand how you could get anywhere without the "Fly" and "Dimension Door" spells (which, by the way, are not available). There are many objects that are simply impossible to visit. Then, there's all sorts of surfaces on top of the water (swimming through cursed land and other fields – that's just ridiculous). Creatures standing on water. Objects and neutrals that you can't reach...
Sixthly:
There's only one direction, constant movement along a set path, completing quest after quest, and they're all monotonous (first, defeat one hero, then the second, then the third, and so on). There's no variation, no alternative. You just run around with one hero, collect thousands and hundreds of creatures in one stack, and just crush the enemy with the same hundreds and thousands of monsters in a stack...
I think the only questions about this map should be directed at the author...
Yeah, someone already wrote about this before:
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A hellish map. Not because it's difficult, but because it's tedious. It's not a strategy game, but one long quest, and a very monotonous one at that. It all boils down to finding a hidden passage, an artifact, or an event. There's nothing else interesting on this map. Battles, especially after getting the vulnerability medal, don't evoke anything but boredom.

bolotnik, you haven't even seen "Jedi story" yet! ;) Warning: this map will drive you crazy! I completed it in 29 months (although it could have been faster, but I made a couple of serious mistakes, which caused me to get stuck in two places for a long time until I looked up some details in the editor)!
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
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bolotnik, you haven't even seen "Jedi story" yet! ;) Warning: this map will completely mess with your head! I completed it in 29 months (although it could have been faster, but I made a couple of serious mistakes, which caused me to get stuck in two places for a long time until I looked for some details in the editor)!

I've seen it, even completed it, in 25 or 26 months, I don't remember exactly now.

I also spent a very long time on The Longest Journey, barely managed to complete it, this map really stressed me out, and it took a very long time in both game time and real time to finish.... I had to use save-load many times, even started over several times, but in the end, I still managed to complete it).
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bolotnik, and "Longest Journey" is a good map, without any "hiding places" or other evils. ;) I completed it (although it took me two tries) in 7 months, 3 weeks, and 6 days: it could have been a little longer, but the main villain, Abrakus, came and attacked me – and paid the price for it! :) It's important that our main hero gets water magic (to *create* a boat – this is a very important moment!) and doesn't delay so that Blue and Brown don't have time to get mega-dragons from the seers – otherwise, it will be problematic to defeat them. You can run around for some time from Pink (Sea Lord), capturing his castles, taking away troops, and weakening him in this way. After that, there are no particular problems, as far as I remember.
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
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bolotnik, and "Longest Journey" is a good map, without any "hiding places" or other evils. ;) I completed it (although on my second try) in 7 months, 3 weeks, and 6 days: it could have been a little longer, but the main villain, Abrakus, came and attacked me – and paid the price for it! :) It's important that our main hero gets water magic (to create a boat – this is a very important moment!) and doesn't delay, so that Blue and Brown don't have time to get mega-dragons from the seers – otherwise, it will be problematic to defeat them. You can run around from Pink (Sea Lord) for some time, capturing his castles, taking away troops, and weakening him in this way. After that, there are no particular problems, as far as I remember.

The map is good, very well made.
It's just that my level of play leaves much to be desired, and I dragged it out, which then made it very difficult.
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Hello. I'm stuck; I can't find Genghis Khan in Mongolia. The quest requires a vial of dragon's blood and defeating Lord Titan. Please help.
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Hello. I'm stuck, I can't find Genghis Khan in Mongolia. They require a vial of dragon's blood and that I defeat Lord Titan. Please help.

Is this the second or first part of "EotW"?
Because I don't remember this in the first one.

If it's the second one, here's a walkthrough, someone already answered above:
http://www.maps4heroes.com/forum/opinions.php?game=3&map_id=369

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Hello. I'm stuck, I can't find Genghis Khan in Mongolia. They require a vial of dragon's blood and that I defeat Lord Titan. Please help.
http://heroesportal.net/maps/view/934#comments
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Pomazok1329 EotW 2, thank you for the links. It's a pity the first one is in English; I'm reading and "digesting" the second one.
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Pomazok1329 EotW 2, thanks for the links. It's a shame the first one is in English; I'm reading and "digesting" the second one.

I played it not so long ago, but as far as I remember:
1. We won't kill the Titan Master anytime soon; he'll appear when the brown enemy comes after the Barbarians, I think.
2. We get the blood bubble from the Drakon King; he'll appear later. In my opinion, the battle with the Dragon King is one of the most difficult on this map (maybe Merlin and the Inferno father are a bit harder).
They give 225 gold Dragons for the dragon bubble.

Regarding Genghis Khan, try using "walking on water"; it's more useful than ever on this map.
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Pomazok1329 Thanks again. After “activating” the ability to walk on water and moving the cursor around, I found another Sanctuary and a body of water that were hidden by bushes.
Here is my save file for the current moment:
I will try to get through the newly opened passage.
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Here is my save file from the current moment.
I checked the save file, and I was pleased with the redemption of enemy heroes. What can be said: 1. 9 months is a long time; you need to complete the map faster. You should normally be at the 3-4 month mark where you are now. Time is always against you because the enemies receive additional troops every 14 days, and their growth rate is still faster than yours. 2. You can replace the Sniper Bow (which consists of 3 parts) with the Golden Bow, and fill the free slots with Elixir of Life.

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I came across another Garden of Revelation.
By the way, there is also a secret path near the Nameless Castle, behind the Crusaders' dwelling, but you will need to move the cursor around to find it; otherwise, you won't be able to see it.
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Pomazok1329 Thanks, I found it (near the Nameless One), and I also defeated a lot of monsters and heroes there. I sometimes replace the Sniper Bow with the Golden Bow; sometimes the enemy gets too close to the archers, and it's convenient to shoot with the Sniper Bow even when the enemy is standing nearby, while I'm cloning Archangels and blinding enemies one by one. But you, as a pro player, know better, I'll try using the Golden Bow and Elixir constantly. Regarding the 9th month, I was just wandering around looking for a way, I didn't expect the map author to "sink so low," with paths, gardens, resources, artifacts, bodies of water, and some items hidden by the landscape... but some people probably like it (I don't). And only when I couldn't find a solution for a long time, I started searching the internet, watched a walkthrough on YouTube (it didn't help much), and then I swore I would ask on this site. You (with your help) really helped me progress, thanks. There are still some problems, for example, I'm playing with the God of Fire, but the Seer Wendel asks me to bring Maximus. I would bring him, but the Book of Earth has been given away, and there's no Earth Portal... I'm trying to get to the Earth Book. 16th month, (with "Kino") I went down all the roads back and forth... In general, the situation is approximately like this now: ...I brought Maximus to the Seer Wendel... He gave me the Earth Book...
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6 months ago, (since "Kino") I explored all the paths back and forth... in general, the situation is roughly like this now.
We can use "you" informally:smile38:
Right now, there aren't many people playing on the maps, although I log in every day because I've returned to Heroes after a year and a half break.

Regarding the map:

1. The monsters needed to progress are located below Reichhaven; there are 4000 of them, and their numbers don't increase.
2. It's a good idea to place the Earth God with the Legion statue in any Castle; the statue will provide a +50% weekly growth rate.
3. Start gathering Golden Dragons for your army; there will be additional outposts for Green Dragons, resulting in a growth rate of 9 per week, while the monsters and Hydras only have a growth rate of 5.
4. Of course, there will be a final battle. If you're short on troops, I suggest looking for a Necromancer with the "Spellcasting" specialization in the tavern, give him an army, and have him quickly learn Expert Spellcasting in battles. Equip him with the King of the Undead cloak and raise Liches on neutral creatures (Griffins, Gremlins, and whatever else you find). Since the armies are now 1000+, free Liches that you can get a couple of thousand of per battle can take up space in the main army.

It's really annoying that there's only one hero with a town portal and a book. You sometimes need to teleport to cities to pick up the necessary artifact/give it to the right hero, and then teleport back.

The map has mixed reviews, mainly because of these secrets that aren't easy to find.
In general, I recommend playing the Ragnar 3: The Lost Empire map later.
Here it is.
I just started playing it (inspired by the Empire with Maximus), and so far, it's just as good
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Pomazok1329 I'll probably switch to the map you recommended. I didn't have a good start anyway because of the "hidden paths," which took too long, and I really should have hired a Necromancer; I would have had a ton of Liches by now. The God of Air killed a lot of units, and in the labyrinth, there were Knights of the Union, Nosferatus, Merlins, etc. (Air turned out to be the most durable; I spent almost 1000 mana on that... guy). That's how many Liches I could have had... And I'm also tired of "scouting" with the cursor... To top it all off, the game crashed on the 21st month (20th month, 4th week, 5th day)... There might be ways to fix the crashes, but then some other map might have some "glitch," and I'm tired of it. I only have one question: for example, if a well-developed Necromancer creates 1000 archers using a clone spell, and the opponent destroys the "cloned" archers, and after the battle, it says that 1000 archers were destroyed, will the Necromancer raise skeletons/liches from these 1000 archers?
I downloaded Ragnar 3: The Lost Empire; thanks, I'm already checking it out, and I hope the problematic areas of this map are also discussed on the forum.
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Pomazok1329 Only one question bothers me: for example, a well-developed Necromancer creates 1000 archers using a clone spell. The opponent, in turn, destroys the "cloned" archers, and after the battle, it is written that 1000 archers were destroyed. So, will the Necromancer raise skeletons/liches from these 1000 archers?

It shouldn't, because clones are essentially illusions made of water, which have 1 HP. The most useful application of a clone is to resurrect Archangels.

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I downloaded Ragnar 3: The Lost Empire, thank you, I'm already taking a look, I hope that the problematic areas of this map are also discussed on the forum.

The map is very similar to Imperium Maximus, but it's a slightly easier version. Here, both the AI and the player have an increase in resources, which means that time (month/week/day) doesn't rush the playthrough. And I haven't noticed any particular problems yet, except for the financial aspect - I have 1 Capitol (4000) and 500 gold per day from each castle - so I need to hire the most necessary recruits.

p.s. I started playing at a fast pace - I reached Xyron, whom I can't defeat. I had to skip a month, just to hire someone. The treasure feature will be very useful, especially in Rampart (it gives +10% gold at the beginning of the 1st day of the week), so it makes sense to sell resources on the 7th day.

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The game froze almost on the 21st month (20th month, 4th week, 5th day)...

This happens when the amount of gold is a number that the game cannot handle or process. This is a couple of billion, or even trillions. If the player has almost captured everything on the map, they can exchange it for resources
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