Tactics against the Tower. — Tactics

Alagar

5/19/2007 5:42 PM UTC

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Can you suggest a tactic against the Tower?:confused:

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My brother is struggling against the Tower on month 5!

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And I can't do anything about it.

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Please help!

Ta Kotoraya...

5/19/2007 5:48 PM UTC

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It depends on the map. Please specify the size. The options are too different.

Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...

Alagar

5/20/2007 8:26 AM UTC

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map 144x144

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the largest

Alex_R

5/21/2007 5:48 AM UTC

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Alagar;90897

Can you suggest a tactic against the Fortress?
My brother has been struggling against the Fortress for 5 months!

The tactic is simple – you need more experience... You've been playing for too long, even for the largest map. And the Fortress is strong if you give it enough time to develop...
Besides the Swamp and Barbarian factions, you can choose any other faction and go for it!
For example, if you play as a Necromancer, you can gather a huge number of skeletons in 5 months... Even if he has 40 Titans, it won't be a problem!!!

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set

5/21/2007 6:50 AM UTC

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Theoretically, you could try to take out the Tower of Elementals. It's the only castle that can offer some resistance against the Tower. But, in reality, there isn't a good strategy for playing against the Tower, as the castle can be upgraded quickly and turned into an impenetrable fortress that enemies will break their teeth on.

Tinya

5/21/2007 7:32 PM UTC

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and if you take Thorgrim, he has magic resistance, so I think he'll be helpful against the Tower.

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Ta Kotoraya...

5/21/2007 7:42 PM UTC

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set;91112

Theoretically, you could try to counter the Tower with Elementals. It's the only Castle that can offer some resistance. But, in reality, there's no good tactic for playing against the Tower, as the Castle can be developed quickly and turned into a fortress that enemies will break their teeth on. :)

In a short time??? Oh, please, don't even mention that! It's the longest and most expensive Castle to develop! Time is, unfortunately, what puts many people off from playing as the Tower....
In general, regarding the author's question – I advise you to read the discussion in several topics in this section... there are many tactics there. And in short – on such a large map, the two best options are Necropolis and Rampart with a hero specializing in Resistance. Both options are viable – but in the first case, you need to be able to recruit the maximum number of skeletons! In the second, you can win by developing faster at the start. And with the natural magic resistance of the warriors, enhanced by the hero's specialization. Well, I've already described the tactics – I don't see the point in repeating it!
As for the Conflux – IMHO, on the largest map, it has no chance against the Tower! Honestly... On a medium map, no problem... but here... no way :)
On small maps, Castles with fast development rule against the Tower – Barbarian, Swamp.

Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...

Fireball

5/21/2007 9:16 PM UTC

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Can you suggest a tactic against the Tower?

If I understand correctly, the game is played with random map generation. Look for Conservatories and Wyvern Dens and capture them in weeks 3-4 (although you can do it in week 2, for example, with Necropolis – 12 Vampires can take a Conservatory with 30 units without losses and with a weak hero). After that, if possible, raid the Utopia and go to eliminate the Mage. You can't let him accumulate Titans, Nagas, and acquire spells.

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APJIAC

5/22/2007 11:09 AM UTC

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Alex_R;91104

The tactic is the same – you need more experience... you're playing for too long, even though it's the biggest map. And the Tower is strong if you give it enough time to develop...
Besides the Swamp and Barbarian, you can choose any Castle and go for it!!!
For example, if you play as a Necromancer, in 5 months you can gather... who knows how many skeletons.... Even if he has 40 Titans, it's not a problem!!!

That's not true.
40 Titans is a lot, and you won't gather that many in 5 months!!!:smile13: :smile13:
That's one.
Two: the problem is resistance!! 5,000 skeletons is 30,000 health, and in 5 months I managed to get 25,000 explosion damage!! You won't have enough skeletons:smile14:
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I won against Vaka with Solmyr, and that's all
(although I had very few units left):smile35:

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In the Tower, you develop skills very quickly

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Ta Kotoraya...;91267

In a short time??? Oh, let's not talk about that!! It's the longest and most expensive Castle to develop!!! Time is, unfortunately, what puts many people off from the Tower....
In general, regarding the author's question, I advise you to read the discussion in several topics in this section... there are many tactics. And in short, on such a large map, the best options are 2 – Necropolis and Rampart with a hero specializing in Resistance. Both options are viable, but in the first case, you need to be able to gather the maximum number of skeletons! In the second, you can win by developing faster at the start. And the natural magic resistance of the warriors, enhanced by the hero's specialization. Well, I've already described the tactic, I don't see the point in repeating it!
As for the Conflux, IMHO, on the largest map, it has no chance against the Tower! Honestly... On a medium map, no problem... but here... no way:)
On small maps, Castles with fast development rule against the Tower – Barbarians, Swamp.

In the Tower, you can develop relatively quickly, but you're right: it still takes 3 months, and that's it (although by that time you'll have a lot of things)

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But the result will be very solid

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Alan

5/22/2007 11:10 AM UTC

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APJIAC;91323

That's not true.
40 Titans is quite a lot, and you can't gather that many in 5 months!!!:smile13: :smile13:
That's one thing.
Two: the problem is resistance!! 5k skeletons is 30k health, and I only managed to get 25k explosion damage in 5 months!! You don't have skeletons:smile14:
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I won against Vak with Solmyr, and that's that
(although I had very few units left):smile35:

You don't even know what to say... Giants are quite achievable in 2-3 weeks, 8 of them appear in a month, and if you have outposts outside the city or a second city, you can gather much more than 40 in 5 months.
25k explosion damage?????????????????????? This is probably from the category of "and I caught a huge fish," but it swam away... You need 300+ (more precisely 329.(3)) magic power to inflict that much damage, not just in 5 months, but it's generally an unattainable goal...

Тьма - это то, что позволяет смертным не забывать, как ярок бывает свет.

APJIAC

5/22/2007 11:22 AM UTC

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You are wrong; Titans are very effective in large battles.
Solmyr vs. Vakial; remnants of my forces: no Titans, no Nagas, no Djinns, no Mages (battle lasted 2 months).
Expert in Earth Magic, power 40+, Earth Sphere x4 (found 4 of them on the map!! I don't understand it myself), and something else, I don't remember, it was a long time ago when I fought Vakial.

Однажды тьма призвала меня, а я был занят, тогда я позвал тьму, но там был автоответчик! Так мы и не встретились.

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Kyle

5/22/2007 11:24 AM UTC

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Alan;91329

Explosion damage of 25k?????????????????????? This seems like something out of the "and I caught this huge fish" category, except it swam away... You need a magic skill of 300+ (more precisely 329.(3)) to deal that much damage, and not just in 5 months, but it's generally an unattainable goal...

The maximum for the four main skills is 99, so 25k from an explosion is simply impossible... :D

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров

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Alex_R

5/22/2007 11:31 AM UTC

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APJIAC;91323

That's not true.
40 Titans is quite a lot, and you can't gather them in 5 months!!!:smile13: :smile13:
That's one thing.
Two: the problem is resistance!! 5k skeletons is 30k health, and I only managed to get 25k explosion damage in 5 months!! You don't have skeletons:smile14:

Thank you, Alan, for your support!
I was indeed mistaken; it's not 40, but 39! (5 months - 20 weeks - that's 39 Titans if you start building them in the second week)
Why do you assume I'll only have 5,000 skeletons, and each with only 6 health? What if I have 20,000 skeletons, each with 8 health?:smile42: Your explosion will kill 300-500 skeletons. And they can be cloned, or teleported, or simply sped up, and how many Titans do you think you'll need so that they don't all fall to the skeletons?

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SandroXXL

5/22/2007 11:34 AM UTC

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You are wrong; there are many Titans, and they deal a lot of damage in large battles.
Solmir vs. Vakial; remnants of my forces: no Titans, no Nagas, no Djinns, no Mages (battle lasted 2 months).
Earth Magic Expert, power 40+, Earth Sphere, and something else, I don't remember, it was a long time ago when I defeated Vakial.

A battle lasting 2 months, and already 40 power. And is the character's level not 99? That's too fast for you to have leveled up so much in 2 months. Listen, my friend, are you by any chance a cheater?

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