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Exactly. For those who enjoy restarts and thinking ahead to outsmart their opponent, games lasting 10 hours are still enjoyable.

What was said about Starcraft is also true. I realized that after Age of Empires, I only enjoy playing in blitz format.

exactly. for those who enjoy restarts, thinking more during the opponent's turn, and 10-hour games — they remain in SoD.

Maybe they should just play HotA on their own resource, and everything will sort itself out, no disputes?! They do have some kind of website, why clutter HeroesWorld with their own version? I doubt there are tournaments for SoD going on there. They have their own thing, we have ours. Let those who want to play HotA play it there, no one is stopping them.

Maybe he just wants to play HotA on their resource, and everything will resolve itself, without any conflicts? They have their own website, so why is Hv pushing their version, I doubt they even hold SOD tournaments there. They have their own thing, and we have ours. If someone wants to play HotA, they can do so there, no one is stopping them.

Am I mistaken, or do the letters HP in your nickname stand for Heroes Portal?))

what makes you think HeroesWorld is dedicated only to SOD? bumped from the post above btw

People complain about the new features and the new city in Hota. Let them complain, but I don't understand why they play The Shadow of Death with such complaints instead of The Restoration of Erathia, where there was no terrible city of Conflux and other "new unnecessary features."

Because this is the official version of the game. What is officially released is, in a way, sacred. Because the person has known this game for a long time.
Hota can position itself however it wants. But it will never become an official expansion.
And there are people who simply don't recognize fan-made creations, no matter how great they seem to their creators and their fans. I'm saying this very seriously.

In Hota, you have to study new objects, artifacts, monsters, etc. Personally, I don't like this. Neither the need to study them, nor the objects themselves. Moreover, many unknown things cause me internal disgust, resistance, and simply look ugly in terms of their physical characteristics. Even if Michelangelo drew them. I don't care.
Although I agree with many things regarding balance, like the fixes for Necropolis. But many things are also not to my liking. Moreover, the adequacy of various small details is questionable.
In short, in a situation of "I like this, but I don't like that," in the end, it will be "I don't like it."

Statements like "why are you adding new features to Hota and neglecting SoD," in my opinion, are equivalent to a complaint, say, to Baratortch: "why are you adding new features to SoD and neglecting The Restoration of Erathia."

You reason this way because you accepted this version of the game as the game. Many have not done so. They don't recognize it. As a game for themselves.
Some people like it - fine. Play it, who's stopping you?
And even the fact that they added tricky things like simultaneous turns (I'm talking about myself) won't make me switch to it. And not because of my love for restarts. I recently decided to play with a friend. The algorithm is as follows: Download, open, launch, look at what kind of crap it is. Complain, close, delete, forget.

In short, SoD as such is already dead, but I prefer the HD+ evolution branch. Definitely not Hota. And its pigmen with marshmallows. You can talk about how "all the cool guys" or "the strongest players in the world" play it, but it's all nonsense. Dog crap. Even if some followers can be found.

In general, I realized that the ND mod is its direct competitor. If it hadn't existed, and Hota had appeared immediately, then it might have had a chance. That is, sitting here with Heroes 800*600 without quick keys and trying it out, it would be "wow, that's something." But even then, it probably wouldn't be a sufficient argument for the masses. There's the example of TE/WoG.
And in general, it has its own community. And SoD has its own. Which I said earlier. - Another division.

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Yes, there was a cool post here that said that people will start respecting the creators of Hota more if they do something. Personally, I have no dislike for either Savu or Baratortch, because they are high-level programmers and experts in their field. And they are also adequate people.

Whether they add something to SoD or not, it won't add or decrease my love or hatred. Even though that first week saves a little time due to the OH, Heroes will still remain a game that devours real time. Nothing will change fundamentally.
If you have 6-8 hours, sit down and play; if not, don't sit down and don't bother with your saves. OH is not a panacea, in short.

what makes you think that HeroesWorld is dedicated only to SoD? I just bumped your post from above, by the way

I’m not saying it’s dedicated to it, I’m saying that a lot of disagreements have arisen with HoTA. As for what you bumped over there, I’ve been playing on HeroesWorld since the times when you got lost from the World Cup, of which you were the host, so keep trolling as much as you want, whatever tickles your fancy as long as you don’t cry about it.

when the arguments run out, bring up an opponent’s mistake, even if it’s irrelevant. Plus, you can add some nonsense in the style of “let the child amuse themselves in any way, as long as they don’t cry.” The book “Rhetoric for Dummies,” chapter one. I don’t care about your accusations regarding the Tournaments. First, I mostly consider myself to be right. Second, who are you, and what are your accomplishments that allow you to accuse me of anything? It seems you’ve forgotten that besides the last Tournament, I also held others, which I conducted more or less successfully. But Dirty, at least, isn’t a complete idiot, and he has the right to bring up the Tournaments. Have you never made a mistake in your life? Or are you just going with the flow and afraid to do anything yourself, so that you won’t be criticized for your mistakes later? I’m warning you guys, if you have a desire to do something for the community, maybe you shouldn’t. Dirty and Heroin will just keep reminding you of your mistakes! And as for the registration date, only a couple of people can compete with me on that. What kind of person is this, I have no words...

when arguments run out, bring up an opponent's irrelevant mistake. Plus, you can add some nonsense in the style of "let the child amuse themselves as long as they don't cry." This is from the book "Rhetoric for Dummies," chapter one.

I don't care about your accusations regarding the championship. First, I mostly believe I'm right. Second, who are you, and what are your accomplishments that give you the right to accuse me of anything? It seems you've forgotten that besides the last tournament, I had other tournaments that I did reasonably well in. But Dirty, at least, isn't completely clueless, and he has the right to bring up the championship. Have you never made a mistake in your life? Or are you just going with the flow and afraid to do anything yourself, so you don't get criticized for your mistakes later? I'm warning you guys, if you have a desire to do something for the community, maybe you shouldn't. Later, Dirty and Heroin will remind you of your mistakes!

And regarding the registration date, a couple of people can compete with me on that.

What kind of person are you? I have no words...

Get a grip, what are you even talking about? I gently hinted at something, so go laugh with someone else. You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself. Anyway, the conversation is over, get lost...

It would seem that five years have passed, but in some parts of the world, time stands still.

It seems like five years have passed, but in some parts of the world, time stands still.

Well, why change anything? Just be yourself, although there's less text now. But yes, good job searching and finding it, Redhead, thank you, keep up the good work.

I’m not saying he is dedicated; I am saying that many disagreements arose with HotA.

And what are these disagreements about? From everything I've seen, there have only been complaints against the HotA Crew from SoD players, which, as far as I understand, literally means the following: "We don't like your HotA, so we want you to make SoD for us." The absurdity of these claims is obvious for the reasons described above.

There have also been many requests to listen to the opinions of experienced players. The HotA Crew went along with this and created a special thread for dialogue with experienced players. But for some reason, experienced players didn't really express their opinion, but the requests to listen to their opinion continue to be heard. What kind of secret opinion it is, unknown to anyone except the experienced players themselves, remains a mystery.

Let's understand that we are not comparing HotA and SoD, but rather HotA and HD+. The difference between them is not in the overall quality, but in their initial positioning: HD+ was designed for online play from the start, while HotA aimed to be a comprehensive add-on for everything at once. As I understand it, HD started as a mod to improve the game's resolution, but gradually evolved into an essential element for online play with the addition of new features. These include troop transfer arrows, autosaves, adding templates and path selection to the interface, password-protected saves, replayable autobattles, and a chess timer. After all, Baratorch didn't come up with all this himself; it was all a response to community requests. Correct me if I'm wrong. In other words, HD+ was initially tailored to the needs of online play, and online play developed along with the mod. HotA has a completely different story. The developers of HotA set out to create a full-fledged add-on. The needs of online play were not and are not a priority for them. I don't deny that a lot of work has been done, but as an online player, I am less interested in all this for several reasons. Changes to the graphics of some creatures and landscapes annoy rather than please me; the new city may be good, but I just want there to be nine cities in the game, which I am used to. Balance changes are sometimes good, sometimes not. New banks, artifacts, objects – these are still tolerable and sometimes even good. But what personally puts me off the most is the presence of various small changes that seem insignificant at first glance, but ignoring or failing to account for them will have an impact on the outcome. For example, removing the immunity of birds to fire, accumulating creatures in hiding places; the most striking example is the change in flight mechanics. Seeing such minor details that can decide the game, I realize that this may be just the tip of the iceberg among such details, and I do not want to deal with all this. And why is there no desire? Precisely because HotA was not made for me, not for online play.

Many times, requests were made to listen to the opinions of experienced players. The HotA Crew responded by creating a special thread for dialogue with experienced players. But somehow, experienced players did not really express their opinion, but the requests to listen to their opinion continue to sound. What kind of secret opinion it is, about which nobody knows except the experienced players themselves, remains a mystery.

That's exactly the point! The developers of HotA decided to listen to experienced players when everything was already done, the contours of the game were defined, and some significant changes in the game became impossible. Offering a dialogue six months after release is simply ridiculous. And at the creation stage, only Vicc represented the interests of online play, who obviously represented them in his own way. At the same time, Vicc has not played for many years, and no one even thought of asking top players (of course, I am not talking about myself). So HotA was initially not made for online play and will no longer become so; making any suggestions now is simply untimely. The fact that HotA Crew took a promise from Baratorch not to make an overall quality patch for SoD – this certainly added fuel to the fire of the holy war; these are dirty tricks to fight for their audience. But given what has been said above, this is no longer very important to me. Now let's compare it with HD+, which was created for online play, specifically for our community. And if you have to choose between HD+ and HotA, then for me, as an online player, the choice is obvious.

- My tastes are quite specific. - Then, enlighten me. - I enjoy restarting the game for 2 hours to get an exit from a one-way path and 20 Gnolls at the start. - ...

- My tastes are quite specific.
- Enlighten me.
- I like to spend 2 hours thinking before pressing the W key.
- ...

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- My tastes are quite specific.
- Enlighten me.
- I like restarting for 2 hours to get an exit from a one-way path and 20 gnolls at the start.
- ...

+100500! Awesome ;)