NHF – new heroes for Heroes V 3.1. — Mods: Tribes of the East

Dyrman

4/11/2016 5:21 AM UTC

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CyPeH

Of course, here's the link:
http://www.heroes5.dbv.pl/print.php?type=N&item_id=9
I also found some retouched textures for the dwarven champions (by a different author), but I forgot the link, and I don't know how to attach an archive to the message.

It's a shame that the heroes there are made from creatures.

Моды для HeroesV:
NHF 0.90 : NHF - группа в VK

Карты для HeroesV:
Путешествие , Условие крови , Рука судьбы.Часть 1: В поход , Рука судьбы.Часть 2: Отчаянье , Рука судьбы.Часть 3: Восхождение , Стойкость
Абсолютная власть , Иду на Вы! , Корона Ургаша , На задворках
Мир надо уничтожить... Чтобы создать свой...

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SRD

4/11/2016 5:46 AM UTC

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CyPeH

...I also found some retouched textures for the dwarven champions (by a different author), but I forgot the link, and I don't know how to attach the archive to the message.

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... И древний лес, роскошен и печален,
Блистает там воздушностью прогалин.
Но между кедров, полных тишиной,
Расщелина по склону ниспадала.
О, никогда под бледною луной
Так пышен не был тот уют лесной...

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psatkha

4/11/2016 6:34 AM UTC

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CyPeH

Of course, here's the link:
http://www.heroes5.dbv.pl/print.php?type=N&item_id=9
I also found some retouched Dwarf Champions (by a different author), but I forgot the link, and I don't know how to attach an archive to the message.

This is a link to the UHM project, in which I also participated earlier, but for the NHF project, the concept of using creatures as heroes is not acceptable because most creatures are significantly smaller than the hero and blend in with the surrounding landscape on the global map! In Heroes 7, the developers took into account the desire to play with heroes like "Kreecha" and made such heroes in an enlarged scale!

С уважением, Psatkha (Псатха)

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Неудачное планирование ведёт к неудаче ...

NCF - мод, добавляющий дополнительных существ в HeroesV 3.1

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CyPeH

4/11/2016 1:51 PM UTC

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Here are the dwarves. These are simply retextured models, not new creature models. Although it's not entirely clear why this causes such a negative reaction from the authors, especially considering that all heroes have "skirts," which make them impossible to miss (if the main complaint is about their size).

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Dyrman

4/11/2016 1:58 PM UTC

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CyPeH

Here are the Dwarves. They are simply retextured, meaning the creature models themselves weren't changed.
Although, it's not entirely clear why this bothers the authors, especially considering that all heroes have "skirts," which makes them impossible to miss (if the main complaint is about their size).

Not all heroes use skirts; also, a bright skirt highlights the current hero, and it's always the player's hero. Additionally, they have slow animations, and if you manually set a very fast animation, a footman like Alaric, for example, looks like a running dwarf. But at the same time, he moves slower on the map than his counterparts.

Моды для HeroesV:
NHF 0.90 : NHF - группа в VK

Карты для HeroesV:
Путешествие , Условие крови , Рука судьбы.Часть 1: В поход , Рука судьбы.Часть 2: Отчаянье , Рука судьбы.Часть 3: Восхождение , Стойкость
Абсолютная власть , Иду на Вы! , Корона Ургаша , На задворках
Мир надо уничтожить... Чтобы создать свой...

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CyPeH

4/11/2016 2:09 PM UTC

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But on horseback, pardon, his highness looks even more ridiculous. It's not fitting for a preacher to engage in combat on horseback! He should inspire his comrades with the word of God, standing heroically behind them! So, the issue here is purely aesthetic... It's better to play with a variety of smaller units than with large, monotonous ones (although the appeal of special abilities is very tempting).

Dyrman

4/11/2016 2:24 PM UTC

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For me, the issue of convenience is more important than the issue of aesthetics. Besides, in our mod, the models are mostly created by psatkha. It is possible to make the heroes unique and use them as mounts. But right now, everyone is extremely short on time.

Моды для HeroesV:
NHF 0.90 : NHF - группа в VK

Карты для HeroesV:
Путешествие , Условие крови , Рука судьбы.Часть 1: В поход , Рука судьбы.Часть 2: Отчаянье , Рука судьбы.Часть 3: Восхождение , Стойкость
Абсолютная власть , Иду на Вы! , Корона Ургаша , На задворках
Мир надо уничтожить... Чтобы создать свой...

Evanger

4/12/2016 2:00 AM UTC

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To be honest, it seems unlikely to create a female hero, for example, from the Stronghold or Inferno factions (they don't have any, and Biara is based on the Screamer model), without using the Screamer model as a base. I might be wrong, but as far as I know, only Nival can create conceptually new models. This raises the question: is the situation a dead end? "I don't want to create a hero based on the Screamer model (although there's no other way), but at the same time, a unique model is needed." Again, I might be wrong on this point, but that's how I see it.

Khalm

4/12/2016 5:08 AM UTC

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A question that I think many are interested in – when can we expect the new version of the mod?

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Dyrman

4/12/2016 5:14 AM UTC

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Khalm

A question that I think many are interested in – when can we expect the new version of the mod?

We hope it will be this week. And if there are no critical bugs, I will then work on NTBF. And NHF will be temporarily put on hold. Therefore, suggest what you think is necessary for version 0.84. You will have to wait a long time for version 0.85.

Моды для HeroesV:
NHF 0.90 : NHF - группа в VK

Карты для HeroesV:
Путешествие , Условие крови , Рука судьбы.Часть 1: В поход , Рука судьбы.Часть 2: Отчаянье , Рука судьбы.Часть 3: Восхождение , Стойкость
Абсолютная власть , Иду на Вы! , Корона Ургаша , На задворках
Мир надо уничтожить... Чтобы создать свой...

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psatkha

4/12/2016 8:07 PM UTC

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CyPeH

But on a horse, pardon me, his high-ranking clergyman looks even more ridiculous.
It's not fitting for a preacher to fight on horseback! He should inspire his comrades with the word of God, heroically standing behind them!)
So, the question here is purely aesthetic... It's better to play with a variety of smaller units than with large, monotonous ones (although the appeal of special abilities is very tempting).

You just need to draw an analogy with the Grand Masters of knightly Christian orders, and everything will immediately fall into place! :smile42:

С уважением, Psatkha (Псатха)

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Неудачное планирование ведёт к неудаче ...

NCF - мод, добавляющий дополнительных существ в HeroesV 3.1

Khalm

4/13/2016 5:50 AM UTC

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Did you ever consider creating a demon hero whose summoned creatures, brought in through a portal, would remain in the hero's army and replenish their losses? (For example, 0.3% of creatures per level).

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Dyrman

4/13/2016 11:42 AM UTC

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Khalm

Did you ever consider creating a demon hero whose summoned creatures, brought in through a portal, would remain in the hero's army and replenish their losses? (e.g., 0.3% of creatures per level)

Interesting idea, but I don't remember if the function returns the killed summoned creatures after a battle, and whether it's possible to retrieve those who remained "alive" from the summoned ones.