Discussion of third-tier monsters. — General

OptiMAL

19 years ago

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Yeah, but what if the hero controlling the Crusaders gets tired, and then you attack with a Vampire after waiting? The Crusader won't even have time to attack. Although, under other circumstances, the Crusader could easily defeat the Vampires.

We'll remove the fatigue, it's not a problem. Let there be escorting!:D

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Alex Ghost

19 years ago

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How can I not afford a Lord? I don't mind spending 1500 gold for the extra boost. :)
You're leveling up a Necromancer. Soon you'll have vampires. I'm leveling up a general. The vampires will cry when a Crusader with 35/35 stats shows up. :)

OptiMAL - go for it! Our Necromancer will cast weakening spells a couple of times, and that's the end of your leveling! We'll throw poison, plague, drain life, weaken, and then cast a devastating ray! And then we'll have fun raising vampires and using the War Song. And that's just the beginning - next

Алекс_П

19 years ago

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I try to recruit creatures. I get Vampires through Necromancy. Necropolis units aren't very good with ranged attacks, but they are good in defense.

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OptiMAL

19 years ago

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Alex Ghost;89299

Optimal - go for it! Our Necromancer casts a couple of debuffing spells, and that's the end of your leveling up))) We unleash poison, plague, drain life, debuff, sorrow, and then aim the devastating beam))) And then we have fun raising vampires and singing the war song. And that's just the beginning - next comes vampirism on bone dragons and death touch on your angels))

And all of this in just one turn?:D You'll need many turns for your crazy plan... but I'm afraid your hero won't live that long:D

Пандора

19 years ago

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And how big is it? And how do you assess that?

But I don't know how big! For some reason, you're not explaining why there's such a big difference between the Vampire and other level 3 units. And this is a feature of all Necropolis factions! And honestly... it's starting to annoy me.

P.S. Many people already know my attitude towards Djinns. I think at least Optimal, Basson, and Zdob are aware. But if necessary, I'll explain again.

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Alex Ghost

19 years ago

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And you can do all of that in one turn?:D You'll need many turns for your crazy plan... but I'm afraid your hero won't last that long:D

With your archers, he will survive! The archer isn't strong or accurate enough to kill with one shot! And we'll also shield the hero with skeletons and ghosts - it will be very difficult. Then we'll finish off the angels with vampires and bone dragons, and the rest will take too long to arrive and kill the hero! So don't overestimate your strength!)));)

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Alex Ghost

19 years ago

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But I don't know which one! For some reason, you aren't explaining why there is such a big difference between the vamp and other 3rd level units? And this is a feature of all Necropolis fans!Then I will explain everything - for vamps, it all comes down to life draining and resurrecting squads + besides the undead bonuses, vampires fly and strike without retaliation - only these circumstances give the vampire the right to a special place. And if you consider that vampirism restores half of the hits from total damage and take their crown into account, then there is the full picture!:cool:
Next, we move directly to necromancy as a way to get a growth of vampires much higher than the base - in the end, it all comes down to how aggressive you are toward neutrals... And believe me - letting a pathologically weaker opponent escape and not getting bonus vampires from that opponent - at least 2 units - a true Necromancer or fan of Death would never allow!:)

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OptiMAL

19 years ago

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With your shooting skills, he'll survive! The crossbowman isn't strong or accurate enough to kill with one shot! And we'll shield our hero with skeletons and ghosts – it will be very difficult. Then we'll finish off the angels with vampires and bone dragons, and the rest will take too long to arrive and kill the hero! So don't overestimate your strength!)));)

Alright, Ghost. It seems you still don't understand that I only have one ranged unit. The rest are infantry. So your necromancers won't stand a chance;)</

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Alex Ghost

19 years ago

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Alright, Ghost. It seems you still don't understand that I only have one ranged unit. Everything else is infantry. So, your Necromancers won't stand a chance;).

OptiMAL - I understand perfectly well that your only long-range unit is the Angel, and among your ranged units, only the crossbowmen! The rest will take at least 3 turns to reach! This tactic won't work against Necromancers - just get close, and they'll be torn apart by vampires and bone dragons)):)

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OptiMAL

19 years ago

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Optimal - I've realized that only your angel has long range, and among the shooters, only the crossbowmen! The rest will take at least 3 turns to reach! This trick doesn't work against Necromancer - just try to get close and you'll be torn apart by vampires and bone dragons))):)

Do you think Crusaders don't move far enough? In 3.51 their speed is insane. With tactics at level 1, he'll reach in 3 turns, and with ultra tactics, he'll get wherever you want in 2 turns. Moreover, the initiative of Crusaders and angels is high, so the Necromancer will have to wait a turn. If you go on the attack, I'll be defending and hitting you hard even with melee, and if I go on the attack, you don't even have anyone to attack from a distance, so I can move forward without fear:smile14: