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Offline =Lizard=
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Decided to try out an old WT tournament format on HotA. The tournament is, of course, unofficial, but possibly has a prize pool (see below).

Game version: HoTA 1.4.2 (latest version, download link: http://download.h3hota.com/HotA_full_setup), HD-mode 4.100 RC5, HW-rulez 1.38.

Template: jebus cross, simultaneous turns until turn 117 inclusive.

Game timer: 8+4+1 (in case of mutual transfer - 8+5+1). Can only be changed to a lower value, otherwise the point of the idea is lost.

Game format: bidding for color, after which blue first chooses any Castle and any hero. Red can take the same Castle, but a different hero.

Restarts: 1 restart on day 111. After finishing turn 111, the red player must write to blue: "taking restart" or "not taking restart", after which blue decides whether to take their own restart.

Redraw: allowed.

Using scrolls without building a Mage Guild: allowed.

Sod's restrictions on Necros, Conflux, etc.: cancelled. In particular, you can upgrade Vampires, Firebirds, etc.

Organizers: =Lizard=

Tournament system: Swiss with elimination after 2 losses.

The tournament is unofficial. Creating reports via the button for results to count towards the rating is NOT mandatory. You can just use text, like in the "Fo-Fan games" thread.

Good luck to everyone in the battles!
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I generated a lot of scenarios for the Tower, and the outcome is either very good or very bad. This time, the outcome was good, but not in a tempo-based way. I planned to reach level 126 with 11 Titans and stats geared towards 25 in all categories. But the opponent conceded on my turn.

Thanks for the game.
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Синий / Blue
StickyFingaz
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Жозефина / Josephine Start Hero Жозефина / Josephine
Дас / Dace Main Hero Дас / Dace
Победа / Def Победа / Def
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Красный / Red
Замок / Castle Faction Замок / Castle
Валеска / Valeska Start Hero Валеска / Valeska
Гуннар / Gunnar Main Hero Гуннар / Gunnar
Map Template
Jebus Cross
Game Length
125 days
Game Date
3/12/2016
Reported
3/12/2016 6:29 PM
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StickyFingaz 1498 → 1518 +20 ↑
Diabler 1635 → 1615 -20 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/12/2016 6:33 PM

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I generated a lot of scenarios for the Tower, and the outcome was either very good or very bad. This time, the outcome was good, but not in a fast-paced way. I planned to reach level 126 with 11 Titans and stats geared towards 25 in all categories. But the turn before, my opponent conceded on my Guardian.

Thanks for the game.
I think I placed the Knights with 2 attack in a double formation, but on level 124, I made a critical mistake on the tricky terrain – I lost all my artifacts. My morale was shaken, and I didn't even think about continuing. Thanks for the game.
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03/13/2016 flate ( Red, Castle, Valenska, Kreg-Hek ) lose The ( Blue, Flax, Moner, Moner ) Jebus-Cross 126
After such a performance, I just want to commit suicide, literally, what's the point of living? With such a "developed" brain????? WHY????
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Sorry for the slight off-topic, but I'd like to ask the tournament participants/orgs their opinion on Necropolis in HotA — fine, they nerfed necromancy, there's the Skeleton Transformer. But they removed Galthran, and what, I ask, can a Necro do on Jebus Cross?
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Sorry for the slight off-topic, but I'd like to ask the opinion of the tournament participants/orgs regarding Necropolis in HotA - okay, they nerfed necromancy, there's the skeleton converter. But they removed Galthran, and what, I ask, can a necro do on Jebus?

Vampire Lords are allowed - this is especially great for blitz, since they can break through a lot on quick. It's hard to highlight other advantages... Overall, a fairly average (or below average) town for Jebus in HotA.
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Sorry for a slight off-topic, but I'd like to ask the opinion of tournament participants/orgs regarding Necropolis in HotA - fine, necromancy was nerfed, there is the skeleton transformer. But they removed Galthran, and what is a necro supposed to do on Jebus Cross?
Jebus Cross is not the only template, and on other templates the necro feels fine without Galthran.

In HotA, it is assumed that the gameplay should be unified and not contain crutches for online play.
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Vampire lords are allowed - this is especially great for blitz, since they break through a lot on quick. It's hard to highlight other advantages... Overall, a very average (or below average) town for Jebus on HotA.

Well, the lords are only relevant with the week 2 growth, which is not viable for Jebus. HotA claims to have improved balance compared to SOD (and that's great), but in the end, they turned one of the strongest towns into a complete outsider on Jebus, which is confirmed by the statistics of town selection in the tournament..

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Jebus isn't the only template, and on other templates Necropolis does just fine without Galthran.

In HotA, it is assumed that gameplay should be unified and not contain crutches for online.

That is true, but personally I very rarely play other templates besides Jebus (I'm sure I'm not the only one), so it's a bit of a bummer)
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In Jebus, the chance of getting a stack of vampires is very high – either from hidden spots or boxes. 20+ vampires can tear through almost anything. After that, it depends on the contents of the respawn point, but this applies to all castles. The statistics on castle selection in tournaments clearly show the number of Ramparts and Fortresses. It seems that most participants didn't even generate layouts for the other castles.
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You forgot about Castle, and by the way, Dungeon is a really cool town in Heroes; everyone wants to play with it on any map.
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After restarting, I got a great return.
I reached level 123 using horses and a nag, with 6 angels, 40 marksmen, 30+ ducks, and 3 giants, stats 13-13 + oil. There were a lot of harpies in the center and a water elemental on the ground. A couple of days later, I teleported home, upgraded my archers, and stood near the opponent's Grand Order with 10+ titans.
At level 131, they attacked him in the main town; the stat, magic, and unit advantage was significant.
Thanks for the game.
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Красный / Red
Redwhait
Замок / Castle Faction Замок / Castle
Валеска / Valeska Start Hero Валеска / Valeska
Валеска / Valeska Main Hero Валеска / Valeska
Победа / Def Победа / Def
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Синий / Blue
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Ивор / Ivor Start Hero Ивор / Ivor
Ивор / Ivor Main Hero Ивор / Ivor
Map Template
Jebus Cross
Game Length
131 days
Game Date
3/14/2016
Reported
3/14/2016 7:19 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Redwhait 1774 → 1780 +6 ↑
yarik1987 1546 → 1540 -6 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/15/2016 5:13 PM

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You forgot about Castle.
I can still understand the choice of Castles, even though it's worse than in the original game. But taking Swamps and especially Ramparts seems reckless to me. Dungeon on the Jebus map is terrible, but on other maps, its strength hasn't changed much, it seems.
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It happened. I was late to get to the center. And my opponent played better. GG.
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BISHOP did not show up for the ODD, so:

Sevan_80 def BISHOP
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03/13/2016 flate ( Red, Castle, Valiska, Kreg-Hek ) lose The ( Blue, Flax, Moner, Moner ) Jebus-Cross 126
After such a performance, I just want to commit suicide, literally, what's the point of living like this? With such a "developed" brain????? WHY????
I didn't understand anything, I thought my opponent had disconnected, I was waiting for him to finish the match, but it turns out he rage quit...
Thanks for the game.

P.S. Is it possible to arrange a game in advance here? I would have played with Pekabler :).
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P.S. Is it possible to sign up in advance? I'd like to play with Pekabler :).
Sure.
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