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Пандора

19 years ago

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Why is it problematic? In version 3.51, the viscous liquid is sold in the "Haven" faction. And it's also easy to find. It's not that rare.

Yes, but you can only use it when the vampire is already close enough! So what's the point of slowing it down? But Haven has a spell, and that's more effective. Although there's another option for Life. You need a "Slow" arrow or something similar.

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OptiMAL

19 years ago

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Pandora;86239

Yes, but you can only use it when the vampire is already close enough! So, what's the point of slowing it down? Haven has a spell, and that's more reliable. Although, there's another option for Life as well. You need a "Slow" arrow or something similar.

You throw a bubble at the vampire, and that's it. At the beginning of the battle, everyone waits. Usually, in the first round, everyone is waiting, except for the heroes. Playing on version 3.51 is better and more interesting because there are already doubts when choosing between Nagas/Djins, Titans/Draken, Golems, Monk/Crusader, Medusa/Minotaur, Ogre/Cyclops!!! There is no longer a clear choice.

:D

Пандора

19 years ago

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You throw a bubble at the vampire, and that's it. At the beginning of the battle, everyone waits. Usually, in the first round, everyone is waiting, except for the heroes.

Too many caveats. But! as an option, it can be considered...

Playing on version 3.51 is better and more interesting because there are already doubts when choosing between nagas/genies, titans/drakes, golems, monk/crusader, medusa/minotaur, ogre/cyclops!!!.

Hmm... but they rarely occur anyway. It's all routine.

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OptiMAL

19 years ago

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Pandora;86471

Hmm... they hardly ever happen anyway :) It's all routine.

Pandora, have you played version 3.51?:rolleyes:

:D

yasnikov

19 years ago

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Have you played version 3.51?

What version is that, where can I find it, and how much does it weigh?

LeSHiJ-MaX

19 years ago

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I completely agree with the approach taken in version 3.51 OptiMAL, as it has made the factions more balanced. Necropolis's ability to easily replenish their ranks with vampires has been removed and replaced with something else (I think this is a good change, as it encourages players to develop their Necromancer skills). Some creatures have had new abilities added (which seems like a very good thing), while others have had abilities removed.

С самого начала позаботься о своем месте в жизни, чтобы не уподобиться маятнику. /Херберт. Ф./
Клан: "Смертельный Альянс" - "Mortal Alliance"

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OptiMAL

19 years ago

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yasnikov;86519

What version is this, where can I find it, and how much does it weigh?

Version 3.51 is Equilibris. In general, it's a mod. You can download it in the corresponding "Download - Heroes of Might and Magic 4" section.

:D

Пандора

19 years ago

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Pandora, have you played version 3.51?

That's a strange question... of course, I have. But I wouldn't say I was thrilled.

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BASON

19 years ago

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Pandora;86629

Strange question... of course, I played it. But I wouldn't say I'm thrilled.

I should try this version! At least out of curiosity!
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OptiMAL

19 years ago

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Pandora;86629

Strange question... of course, I played it. But I wouldn't say I was thrilled.

What didn't you like about it? Look. In order to build Titans, you need: Stronghold + Castle = 15000, 20 wood and ore + Titans 14000 gold, 16 wood and ore, and 20 gems. All of this adds up to:
29000 gold, 36 wood and ore, and 20 gems. But before that, you need to build levels 3 and 2 (3000 + 6250 = 9250 gold). This already shows that there is an imbalance. And for dragons, you only need a University (5700 gold + 3000 Alchemist's Guild = 8700 gold). I think there is a difference between 15000 and 8700. Moreover, the University and Alchemist's Guild will be more useful than the Castle. In 3.51, the cost of the Stronghold and Castle was reduced to 3000 gold. The balance is already becoming apparent. Also, the invincible vampires were weakened, and the weak crusaders were strengthened. The Djinns were also weakened, and that was the right thing to do. The Ogres were strengthened, and the Cyclops were weakened. In general, there is a balance. And in 3.51, it is unlikely that anyone will say that, for example, Order will crush everyone. :)

:D

Пандора

19 years ago

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I don't mind... but I really don't like it. I'm already used to the "old" heroes. At my age, it's hard to adapt :D

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OptiMAL

19 years ago

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Pandora;87733

I don't mind... but I really don't like it. I'm already used to the "old" heroes. At my age, it's hard to adapt :D

Maybe that's true, but I still like it when they win with tactics, not brute force (something like vampires and djinn: D :D).

:D

X@M181

19 years ago

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actually, it's impossible to call any monster the MOST useful. It depends on the situation and goals. But I think a griffin is a quite versatile COMBATANT.

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Ley

19 years ago

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Pandora;87733

I don't mind... but I really don't like it. I'm already used to the "old" heroes. At my age, it's hard to adapt :D

What does "at my age" mean? Or is 20 years old already too much! By the way, do you really know Spanish? And I completely agree about the version.

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

Пандора

19 years ago

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What does "at my age" mean? Or is 20 years old already too much! By the way, do you really know Spanish? And I completely agree about the version.

Ley, this is just a joke :) Although, honestly, I'm just not in the mood to relearn everything... Regarding Spanish, I'm not a magician, I'm just learning :)

Regarding Excalibur, I understand Optimal. After all, it fundamentally changes even the very voting about usefulness. And in general, preferences...

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