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Offline Niemand
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In war, I only acknowledge the act of pressing a button.
The button is a detrimental phenomenon, leading to the trivialization and degeneration of the art of war. How can a warrior truly understand death while sitting in a comfortable office a thousand kilometers away, simply pressing a button? All the problems of our time stem from the widespread use of the button.
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That doesn't happen. Even if we're talking about North Korea, they're just begging for money.
I was referring to Nazi Germany.
 

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So, you've suggested a rather unserious motivation for, figuratively speaking, putting yourself in harm's way.
For many people, even the option of "abandoning their family" and returning to their homeland to face danger is a very real possibility, and whether you like it or not, it doesn't matter to them because they "have to."
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Offline Злобный Ящур
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Daoshi
For many people, even the option of "abandoning their family" and returning to their homeland to face danger is a real possibility, and whether you like it or not, no one cares, because you "have to."
These are not people; they are "chained." :( People have reason and the right to choose.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).
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the right to choose.
Well, Lizard, it's their choice. I don't see a reason to deny them the title of a rational person just because of that. Although, I (and, as I see, not only I) will have a reason to doubt their sanity. But that, again, is my choice.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Offline Злобный Ящур
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Sesame
well, Yashur, it's their choice.
No, a choice should be somewhat justified. "I'm doing this because the Master commanded so I owe something to someone" - that's not a choice, that's just the mindless execution of someone's will, and usually in the interests of the "source of that will".:mad:
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).
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In essence, there's no real difference in the arguments between "I must defend my homeland because I'm a PATRIOT" and "I shouldn't kill people because the Bible says so." They are all matters of faith.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Offline Niemand
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No, the choice must be justified in some way. "I'm doing this because the Master commanded it I owe something to someone" — that is not a choice; it is the mindless execution of someone's will, usually in the interests of the "source of that will."
Alexander Matrosov, kamikaze pilots, and others have turned in their graves.
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The fact that one country is the aggressor (i.e., whose troops are on another country's territory) is clearly irrelevant.
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Offline Злобный Ящур
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Dagr
Alexander Matrosov, kamikaze pilots, and others have turned in their graves.
Nuacho, in those times there were no fewer "chepired" people than there are now. And especially under the influence of this thing...
Sesame
"I must protect my Motherland, for I am a PATRIOT"
A patriot protects the Motherland from any occupation; a "chepired" vatnik—from encroachments on the Master's power.
That is the difference between them.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
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Offline Niemand
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back then, there were no fewer "chained" individuals than there are now
Or in those times? Or in those times?
Were Leonidas and the Crusaders not encouraged to perform heroic deeds?
Jesus Christ had the opportunity to avoid crucifixion. Or the early Christian martyrs.
Even the driver of a "Ford" bought on credit is not forced to crash into a pole, saving the life of a senile old woman who is too lazy to walk 10 meters to the underground passage...
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Offline Саня Изи
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You're causing unnecessary panic, you know...

Yashchur, you're already acting paranoid, don't forget to put on your tin foil hat.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день
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Offline Злобный Ящур
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Dagr
Are those from antiquity? Or from the Middle Ages?
I don't understand what's written there...:confused:
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).
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Offline Heroist
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You can select the Russian language from the list in the lower left corner.

Whatever
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Offline Злобный Ящур
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Mortulus
Yashur, you're already "tin-foil hatted" yourself, don't forget to put on a tin foil hat.
It seems there isn't one yet...

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Heroist
You can choose the Russian language from the list in the lower left corner.
I found it (why not just post a link to the Russian version?). Anyway, it was a long time ago. I don't remember the level of "tin-foil hatting" back then.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).
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