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Posts from The 3rd stage of the annual John Van Caneghem Tournament (2007).

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I think I'm in last place, oh no!
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Lord-Aries;86436
So it turns out that I'm a loser with my result... But I just can't figure out how to get the Surprise on the 3rd day without using any programs... Hopefully, I'll learn something...
The main thing is to participate – the result will come with time. The Surprise can be obtained earlier :) You can get it without using any auxiliary programs, but you'll just get tired :) and start to get sick of the heroes. That's why it's more fun with programs. In particular, the vbn automator – you load the program and go to sleep – and in the morning, you win :)

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Kamikaze;86444
I think I'm in last place aaaaaaa!
Don't worry so much, no one has ever died from that. Everyone has been in a place they didn't aim for at some point. The main thing is to participate. And also, do a detailed analysis of what happened; try to repeat the Walkthrough based on someone's description after the tournament. This will help you a lot in the future. Just don't just go through the description in your head; actually take it and replay the map. Learn how to use the vbn automator, but before that, have a manual battle with the ballista for 30-50 rounds.
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So, it turns out I'm just a noob with my result... But I really can't figure out how to get the surprise on the 3rd day without using any programs... Hopefully, I'll learn something...
The surprise with the vbn program is taken on the 1st day... the main thing is to see how to move the heroes so as to collect money to hire a new one (i.e., a hero with a ballista and another one).
But how to get it on the 3rd day without a program...? Has anyone done it, and what battle tactics did they use?
играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)
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IronAxe;86466
Learn how to use the vbn automator, but before that, run at least 30-50 rounds of a battle with a ballista manually.

I think even 15 rounds will be enough :) Why engage in nonsense?
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Learn how to use the vbn automator, but before that, fight a battle with a ballista manually for 30-50 rounds at least.

Why do you think I played without a program? :smile07:

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try to repeat a walkthrough based on someone else's description after the tournament. This will help you a lot in the future. Just don't go through the description in your head, but actually replay that map.

Thanks, I will do that. It just takes a long time to kill the Earth Elementals!!!!
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RAPER;86410
I just checked the saves, the first "can" is taken on the 3rd day... and the rest (my sister took them) on the 4th... and I didn't take any... and I went with 2 angels =)

Don't worry... you'll get a good ranking - the result is good... I wish I could get into the top 10 - that would be great... =)) It's a long wait until the 3rd...

Ps: As I understand it, everyone was killing heroes... but did anyone kill the Black Dragon even in the rough version?


Okay, I understand.
I'm as usual in deep trouble...:(
I even thought about the victory conditions before the start, either one or the other.
I went to kill dragons and get the artifact...:o

I would like to know how you solved the Airborne Forces' surprise. Since it's impossible to kill him with just snipers without a supply cart (it's not given to any hero at the start), and if you shoot 32 times and run away from the elements, you need about 60 snipers? You understand that this is impossible in the first week.
Next, how did you open the "cans"? I mean, with what army, spells, etc. (especially the tactics). Because I had big losses, and such a Pyrrhic victory didn't really suit me, because a couple of days later, the blue player came with titans and 20 mages and wiped me out.
If anyone made it through the Knights, again, with what army and what was your tactic?

P.S. For the organizers...

Maybe next time you should set stricter conditions for completing the map? Because, for example, based on the name of the map, I still dismissed the idea of destroying heroes and looked for the artifact?:)
"Мы принимаем бой!!!!!!!" - кричали они:D :D :D
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OlegRS;86510


P.S. To the organizers...

Maybe next time, you should set stricter conditions for completing the map? Because, for example, based on the map's name, I dismissed the idea of destroying the heroes and instead looked for the artifact?:)

Dear OlegRS, when you see the final results, your opinion may change significantly;).

Sincerely, VDV_forever
Единый справочник по Героям Меча и Магии

ТУРНИРЫ ПО ГЕРОЯМ 1!:smile13:
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Good day, esteemed tournament participants!

As per your request:

The preliminary results are ready... on paper :)
I'm now transferring them to the computer; it will be ready in about an hour.

I'm still waiting for all your complaints and suggestions in the TOURNAMENT MATTERS thread.

Sincerely, VDV_forever
Единый справочник по Героям Меча и Магии

ТУРНИРЫ ПО ГЕРОЯМ 1!:smile13:
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OlegRS;86510
Okay, I understand.
As usual, I'm in deep trouble...:(
I even thought about the victory conditions before starting, either one or the other.
I went to kill dragons and get the artifact...:o

I'd like to know how you figured out the Airborne Forces' surprise.
With one sniper and a ballista on the first day.
Then, how did you "open the can"? I mean, with what army, spells, etc. (especially the tactics), because I suffered heavy losses.
I took out the first "can" with about 28 snipers and 15-16 centaurs - and then you get 2 angels - the rest is easy to take out - and there are only 2 spells there, and you need mass slow (with earth magic, which you level up on the gift) and haste on the snipers...
P.S. For the organizers...

Maybe next time you should set stricter conditions for completing the map? Because, for example, based on the map's name, I still dismissed the idea of destroying the heroes and looked for the artifact?:)
You shouldn't have done that. You need to think about the conditions right away, i.e., figure out whether it's easier to kill all the heroes or complete the map's task.
играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)
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OlegRS;86510
I would like to know how you managed to defeat the VDV surprise. Since killing it with snipers alone, without a supply cart (which is not given to any hero at the start), seems impossible, and if you shoot 32 times and run away from the elements, you would need about 60 snipers? You can understand that this is not possible in the first week.
The surprise was defeated using a ballista... because they decided that the infinite shots of the ballista are not a bug, but a feature...

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров
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VDV_forever;86515
Good day, esteemed tournament participants!

As per your request:

The preliminary results are ready... on paper :)
I'm now transferring them to the computer; it will be ready in about an hour.

I'm still waiting for all your comments and suggestions in the TOURNAMENT MATTERS thread.

Sincerely, VDV_forever
That's great! =)) I'm looking forward to it =))
играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)
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to VDV_forever: a request...
could you restore the discussion about the ballista that you deleted?
Thank you.

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров
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K0Lb@zzeR;86487
Yeah, I think 15 will be enough :) Why engage in nonsense?
Nonsense :) Just look at how the ballista's shots fly off in all directions. And it has 24 rounds in the barrel :)

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Kamikaze;86503
And why do you think I was playing without any tools? :smile07:
I was giving general advice, not just to you personally ;)
Kamikaze;86503

Thanks, I'll do that. It's just that it takes a long time to kill the Earth Elementals!!!!
But does it really matter, as long as it doesn't bother the player personally? :)

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OlegRS;86510
P.S. For the organizers...
Maybe next time you should set stricter conditions for completing the map? Because, for example, based on the map's name, I still dismissed the idea of destroying the heroes and started looking for the artifact?:)
It's not a given that this will be better. VDV specifically provides a mental challenge so that players can think about many different ways to complete the map.
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Kamikaze;86503
Thanks, I'll do that. It just takes a long time to kill the Earth elementals!!!!
Maybe you can ask someone for a save file after the battle if you don't want to fight them again=))
играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)
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Well, here we are. Should I ask someone for a save file after the battle...? Maybe I should just ask someone for a save file from the second-to-last day?! We waited and waited... :((((

Орден Фениксахаризматический :) лидер

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