Mafia 101. Disputed Island — Mafia

Kent305

12/12/2015 10:39 PM UTC

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What do you mean? Isn't this

...a normal explanation?

No, because

It doesn't explain anything, because it would mean that the first Mages were going to kill Ment and recruit him at the same time. Don't you think that's absurd? Neither of those actions can be redirected.

And the recruitment of Ment is explicitly mentioned. Otherwise, what was the point of all those appeals to Jen Li to bring him into the order in the newspaper?

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Злобный Ящур

12/12/2015 10:41 PM UTC

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Kent305

Otherwise, what was the point of all those appeals to Jen Li to get him into the Haven in the newspaper?

Well, I said it above... :D

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

Fragment

12/12/2015 10:48 PM UTC

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Well, we were planning not to visit anyone, so they wouldn't get hurt. But in the end, those who were supposed to stay quiet went to Ment and Koshe for some reason, and the blockers didn't think to block Zero

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Kent305

And the recruitment of Ment is clearly stated. Otherwise, what was the point of all those appeals to Jen Li to get him into the order in the newspaper?

I agree with Lizard on this, it seems like a hint about his role.

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Or it's an addition to the clue. Like Conan the Barbarian - an experienced sailor.

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Kent305

12/12/2015 10:50 PM UTC

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I agree with Yashur on this point; it seems like a hint about a role.

There was a hint about a role when they talked about compliments. Jen killed twice in a way that the victims died instantly, but here, Ment was still crawling around and shouting something.

We need to try to connect the clue from Ment to Alex. If it connects, then I'm wrong. If it connects to someone else, we'll find Nancy.

Злобный Ящур

12/12/2015 10:55 PM UTC

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Hmm... There should be two clues on Lee. One “Francisco Lerma”, the second... I don't see it.:smile32:

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

Fragment

12/12/2015 10:57 PM UTC

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Kent305

There was a hint about the role when compliments were mentioned. Jen killed twice in a way that the victims died instantly, but here, Ment was still crawling around, saying something.

So, where is the hint that Ment came to her? In the first case, it exists. In my opinion, the newspaper states the opposite – he didn't touch her, he was fighting the zombies with compliments, and she attacked him.

Uranium235

12/12/2015 10:57 PM UTC

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So, does it ever occur to anyone that Nancy might be framed? What are her actions (let's forget about the specifics for now)? Defense against physical attacks is one thing. But what about the second one?

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Fragment

12/12/2015 10:59 PM UTC

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Evil Lizard

Hmm... There should be two clues on Lee. One “Francisco Lerma”, the second... I don't see it.:smile32:

The "Pacific" tattoo, right?

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Злобный Ящур

12/12/2015 11:01 PM UTC

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Uranium235

So, does it ever occur to anyone that Nancy might have committed the murder and planted the evidence?

If Nancy was the killer, there should be something somewhere that points to it. "The horde of infected" is not Nancy...

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The "Pacifist" tattoo, right?

Of course not... That's a clue to the Vishmaster's killer. And that doesn't seem to be Lee...

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

Uranium235

12/12/2015 11:01 PM UTC

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No, Vish died from the infection. And the infection occurs at the very end, after Lee's ultimate ability. And even if Nancy killed him, it still happens after the ultimate.

Злобный Ящур

12/12/2015 11:06 PM UTC

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“Don’t leave me, I want to be with you!”

I think this is a clue...

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

Fragment

12/12/2015 11:06 PM UTC

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Evil Lizard

Of course not... This is a clue to the Vishmaster's murderer. And this doesn't seem to be related to Lee...

Yes, exactly, I skimmed through it.

Then I think the second clue about Lee is actually this phrase from Ment. Although it's a rather strange clue... Maybe we should also pay attention to the fact that Ment, even after being cut in half, was still crawling and screaming as a clue?

Uranium235

12/12/2015 11:07 PM UTC

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WishmasteR tried to save his comrade, but he was no longer strong enough. The infected jumped from Ment’a to him and tore him to pieces. Even the tattoo with the “Pacifist” symbol didn’t survive.

Nancy has been recruited, which fits the definition of an infected. Remember the first newspaper? Actions from zero were indicated as actions from different zombies.

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Злобный Ящур

12/12/2015 11:09 PM UTC

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Uranium235

Actions from zero were referred to as actions from different zombies.

Exactly. "A horde of zombies" is the patient, not the "invited" Nancy.

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

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Kent305

12/12/2015 11:10 PM UTC

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Really? And what about this then?

Finally, we defeated all the attackers. We weren't able to save Ment’a; in his farewell request, he asked us to tell I. Yu. Moskvitin about his heroic deeds if we ever met him.

Do you still think Ment didn't survive until the end of the night?