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Dear HMM3 fans, may I have everyone's attention! This year, an event occurred that is, in my opinion, underrated — the release of the HD version of Heroes III by Ubisoft. As you all know perfectly well, no revolutions took place in the game; they simply touched up the graphics. As far as I know, there is no online Multiplayer. However, the very fact that Ubisoft has turned its attention to the THIRD Heroes again makes me very happy! It means they realize that Heroes III is still alive and can be commercially interesting for them. In other words, HD is a trial run; there will likely be something else. To be honest, I'm surprised this happened so late, as Heroes III is the first game I wanted to have on a tablet once they appeared. As you all know again, there isn't a single successful version for tablets yet, except for the ExaGear simulator. This is all very strange and wrong. HMM is practically the ideal game for a tablet; 98% is done with a mouse (there are some small issues with combat, but that's solvable). Again, all our multi-hour Multiplayer games would have been much more convenient with a tablet. In the case of long trips, when you need to kill 8 hours on a plane or train, for example, this would be an indispensable game (hotseat, of course). Anyway, love me or hate me, but I am convinced that this will finally happen, and Ubisoft will realize it. They'll spend a ton of time and make another piece of crap that everyone will criticize again. And it's not a given that it will be specifically Heroes III, rather than some 7.5-lite or something else. Can we change anything? I don't know; I ask those who are "in the loop" to speak up, for example, Asma, or those involved in the creation of HotA. However, if there is any possibility to influence this process, why don't we try to use our collective intelligence to draft a dozen recipes/commandments for creating what everyone has dreamed of for so long? And then publish it on the Ubisoft forum, at least in the HMM3 HD thread. Obviously, it will be difficult to agree, since even here there are fans of SoD, WoN, HotA, etc., but I am sure there must be some foundation, a base that satisfies everyone, and the rest is not as important. And in my opinion, this base should be specifically HMM3 with hexes and 2D. I propose that we jointly develop a dozen of these provisions that will satisfy 80-90% of players. Please share your wishes, but only the most important, fundamental ones. I hope it's clear that arguing about the parameters of a phoenix is pointless here, because it's not a given that the Conflux town is even needed. 10 points — so that this doesn't turn into a farce, and so that it remains manageable for both us and the developers. Here is what I would suggest:

1. Hexes, not squares, on the battlefield. This is the spirit of the true "those" Heroes.
2. A more user-friendly interface similar to WoN. Buttons for transferring armies, artifacts, etc.
3. A polished map generator, built-in templates.
4. A centralized rating system on Ubisoft servers. The option to play for rating or not.
5. The possibility of simultaneous turns in online matches until the first encounter or a specific date. Proven, this saves a ton of time!
6. Necromancy. It must be there. This is the feature for which many people play. What stops them from lowering the percentage of bone raising?
7. Artifacts. The ban on magic must definitely be removed, otherwise it's just "Heroes of the Sword." Well, a lot of things could be added here. There are many interesting things in Heroes 5, 6, and 7.
8. Initiative scale + initiative parameter. It'll be necessary. Calculating in your head who hits whom is hardcore, especially since it won't be as convenient to check speed parameters all the time on a tablet.
9. Graphics. 2D only! What is the point of 3D chess? What is the point of rotating the map if the location of towns and heroes gets jumbled in your head? It's as ridiculous as 3D Tetris. This game is perfect specifically in 2D. What can be done is to truly redraw the units, towns, forests, and bring the graphics up to modern standards; I would make the grass brighter. Finally, focus on magic effects or strikes in battle, explosions, lightning, etc.
10. Bank. A great thing. Not being able to build angels on 117 because of a lack of 100 coins? Come on!
11. Diplomacy. Yes, in pure SoD, it's unbalanced. But it's a very cool thing to search for units of your own race! I would keep it. Just greatly reduce the percentage of joining units. Like, 1-5 nags out of 20, that's it. And only friendly races should join. Or for a lot of money, as usual.

I ended up going over 10 :o

Magic — personally, I can live with Slow remaining at level 1 and Armageddon at level 4; moreover, I wouldn't even mind the school system from Heroes 5, 6, and 7; some action is needed. The composition of races, in my opinion, is also not that fundamental. The main principle is that there should be no creatures that become banned due to imbalance. For example, vampires are obviously needed, just lower their growth and increase the cost.

Comrades, maybe this is naive, but let's try to make our favorite game better, to finally create one build, a gold standard that satisfies everyone. Since the HD version is out, something else will surely appear soon; let's not stand aside. Naturally, all of this would be relevant for the PC version as well. Respectfully, Sir Tayrus (portal, WoN) :cool:

P.S. I plan to start a similar thread on the portal, but I feel people are more active here.

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Hmm, nobody wants to speak up?
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Doesn't anyone want to share their opinion?
It would be better to post this comment somewhere there.
As for the actual issue… I don’t know. The copyright holders may not want to continue developing a game that has been outdated for about 15 years and is no longer commercially viable.
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Dear fans of Heroes of Might and Magic III, please pay attention! This year, an event occurred that, in my opinion, was underestimated - Ubisoft released an HD version of the third game. As you all know, there were no revolutions in the game; they simply improved the graphics.
After that, I lost the desire to read further, but I did finish it. They didn't just "improve the graphics"; they took the rawest and most buggy version of the game, and the bugs of the "Horn of the Abyss" expansion were added to the bugs of this pseudo-HD version. I'm not even talking about the fact that no one thought about the gameplay at all. This project is simply a way to make money off of nostalgia.
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After that, I lost the desire to read further, but I finished it. They didn't just "improve the graphics"; they took the rawest and most buggy version of Heroes, and the bugs of RoE were overlaid with the bugs of this pseudo-HD version. I'm not even talking about the fact that no one thought about the gameplay at all. This project is just a way to make money off nostalgia.
Well, I think that's what I'm saying. For now, it's just another piece of garbage that no one wants to pay for. This doesn't suit me. I don't understand why I lost the desire to read further?
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Well, that's what I'm saying. Right now, it's just another piece of garbage that no one wants to pay for. I'm not happy with that. I don't understand why the desire to read further disappeared?
What's the point? There's a good HD version from baratorch. It's constantly being improved. Just look at the simultaneous turn feature! Ubisoft won't bother with something like that.
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Well, if we're talking about the HD mod, there are only a couple of points – there's no version for Android and no unified rating system. Maybe I didn't express my idea clearly, let me reiterate it in a few words. It seems to me that Ubisoft is once again looking towards Heroes of Might and Magic III. If they said A, they will soon say B. We could somehow influence this "B". Heroes of Might and Magic III could be commercially viable. Would you buy a licensed game from Ubisoft if it were a game similar to the HD mod by baratorch, plus for Android, plus a couple more features? I definitely would.
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You still don't understand anything. It "seems" that you can also ... (do something inappropriate) with the girl, but it doesn't work. No one at Ubisoft will bother with this, as it's simply not necessary. As already mentioned, the goal is to make money off nostalgia.
All the grand plans for improvement are nothing more than "naive idealism."
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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I am amazed by the inadequacy and malice of some people. Ubisoft just needs to make money, and that's all there is to it, and everyone understands that. And do you think they made a lot of money off nostalgia with this approach? And, by the way, don't be rude to your elders, Lider1.
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that wasn't written to you, it was a signature, lol. And yes, "senior" – that's a bit much. Well, believe in whatever you want, it doesn't change the essence of the matter. I doubt there are many who would agree, because what they released is nothing more than amateurish garbage, and I can't call it anything else. They completely ignored the current trends in the Heroes series. They don't care about that. Hence the question: why would they make something based on what someone here fantasizes about? For me, the answer is obvious. Well, if you're an idealist, I'm not against it. Please. Dream on. Believe in a bright future.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Okay, the overall situation is clear. 111 views, 2 replies, one of which is rude. No one even wants to try to improve anything, although trying doesn't hurt and doesn't require any effort from you. We'll just go with the flow. Please close the thread.
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Alright, the situation is generally clear. 111 views, 2 replies, one of which is rude. No one even wants to try to improve anything, even though trying doesn't hurt and doesn't require any effort from you. We'll just go with the flow. I request that this topic be closed.
What's the point of discussing anything if Ubisoft will DEFINITELY not improve anything. At most, they will release Armageddon's Blade HD without any gameplay improvements, and it will turn out to be
Tayrus
They will waste a lot of time and create another piece of garbage that everyone will criticize again.
And why is that? Because they don't care about the players' opinions, and they don't have the task of creating an esports version, because it is not economically viable, I don't think it makes sense to explain why.

As for the online community, the HD mod from Baratortcha is perfect for this purpose, as he consults with players about what is needed and what is not, i.e., all the necessary wishes are already there.

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In the case of long journeys, when, for example, you need to kill 8 hours on a plane or train, this would be a simply indispensable game (of course, in hotseat mode).
just to kill a couple of hours, any version will do. Moreover, I personally saw how they launched the WT version on a tablet.
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Dear Tayrus! I won't say much. There have been many attempts to improve "Heroes 3". A lot has been discussed, and continues to be discussed, on thematic forums. Actually, WoG and HotA have been created. There are also about 2.5 author mods that haven't gained widespread popularity. Nevertheless, people play the original "Heroes 3" more. The current owner of the copyrights and source code of the game, Ubisoft, is not interested in developing "Heroes 3". What can you say when these people even managed to miss the source code for "Armageddon's Blade" and "The Shadow of Death"! WoG is not officially recognized and exists "on a precarious basis". The HD mod by Baratorch is the same. That's the situation... :(
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
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If Ubisoft had interested people, before doing anything, they would at least superficially familiarize themselves with the works of the creators of HD, WT, HotA, and so on.
I don't think that the highly respected Baratorch has any licenses, patents, copyrights, or top-secret codes, and it's simply easier to "steal" all the best and stick a Ubisoft logo on it than to create something old and raw. Especially since the "delay" turned out to be in the format of "in the evening with a beer, we sat down and made HD"... IMHO.

Looking at everything that is happening with the original version of Heroes, I can confidently assume that the online rating is a very simple task.
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