Which faction do you like the most in Might and Magic VIII? — Might and Magic VIII

Valinor

4/11/2007 10:05 AM UTC

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1. It states that dragons are mostly solitary creatures. 2. In the Canyon, they gathered only because they were threatened (there are many dragons there, and a group separated from them, hence so many caves). 3. And if you follow the code of chivalry, you must follow it to the end. But if a pack of wolves attacks you, will they fight you one by one in a duel? The Visitors and Necropolis factions are there, while the Clerics and Dragon Slayers are typical representatives of the human nations of Erathia (priests and knights). They are initially allies and cannot be enemies (otherwise, there would be a civil war).

ОMEGA

4/11/2007 11:15 AM UTC

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1. It is said, yes it is, but it doesn't correspond to the game. And the dragons in the gorge call those who split off traitors, because by separating they weaken the entire tribe.
2. The Necros aren't newcomers - only Sandro was sent there on assignment, while the others have been there for a very long time.
3. What you wrote about the wolf pack and the knights is nonsense. The wolves didn't take vows of knighthood, did they? Or are you trying to say that you should treat your opponent exactly as they fight you? Then why not drink the blood of vampires? Why not act dishonorably by using allies and then throwing them into a dungeon (like the Necros did with Sandro in Breath)? Why not eat the fresh corpses of defeated enemies? Why not turn enemies into skeletons? In short, you are wrong, because knights differ from vagabonds and mercenaries precisely in that they follow the Code; if they start spitting on the Code, then what kind of damn knights are they?

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Valinor

4/11/2007 2:41 PM UTC

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Knyaz_OMEGA;82199

1. It's all well and good to say that, but it doesn't match the game. And the dragons in the canyon call the separatists traitors, because by separating, they weaken the entire tribe.

but the fact remains.

Knyaz_OMEGA;82199

2. The Necromancers aren't newcomers – only Sandro is there on assignment, and the rest have been there for a very long time.

They came to Jadame when they were kicked out of Erathia.

Knyaz_OMEGA;82199

3. What you wrote about the wolf pack and the Knights is nonsense. Wolves don't take oaths of knighthood, do they? Or are you saying that if an opponent fights against you, you should do the same to them? Then why not drink vampire blood? Why not betray allies by using them and then throwing them in a dungeon (like the Necromancers did to Sandro in the Dungeon)? Why not eat the fresh corpses of defeated enemies? Why not turn enemies into skeletons?

wolf-dragons

Knyaz_OMEGA;82199

In short, you're wrong, because Knights are different from vagrants and mercenaries in that they follow the Code, and if they start ignoring the Code, then what kind of Knights are they?

They are not Knights; they just call themselves that. They are hunters and adventurers, perhaps with the exception of Stormlance

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ОMEGA

4/11/2007 5:08 PM UTC

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Valinor;82303

but the fact remains a fact

That's true.

Valinor;82303

they came to Jadame after they were kicked out of Erathia

Actually, no. They've been in Jadame for a long time (and it's mentioned there). Sandro was the only one sent there (he was the one kicked out of Erathia, not all the Erathian Necromancers), and the rest have been there for a very long time.

Valinor;82303

wolf-dragons

I understood that anyway. But it seems like you didn't understand me. I wrote four lines about how a Knight should behave against any enemy, but apparently, my efforts were in vain.

Valinor;82303

they are not Knights, they just call themselves that; they are hunters and adventurers, except maybe Stormlance

No, they are Knights. They all start as Knights. And if some group of "hunters and adventurers" calls themselves Knights of a normal state (and Erathia is a normal state), then that state must either put them through trials and, depending on the results, either knight them or disgracefully banish them, or the state should simply crush them, as they act at their own discretion in other countries, and cover up their actions with the name of that state. So they are Knights, but bad ones.

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Valinor

4/11/2007 5:54 PM UTC

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No, actually, they are knights. Their starting class is knight for all of them. And even if some group of "hunters and adventurers" calls themselves knights of a normal state (and Erathia is a normal state), then that state should either subject them to trials and, depending on the results, either knight them or disgracefully banish them.

Or maybe they were kicked out of Erathia and decided to try their luck in Jadame:D :D

And besides, they came to hunt, not to wage war against their own kind.

P.S. I'm defending them not because I agree with them, but because no one else is, and they are a prototype of us. Don't people also treat each other like that?

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ОMEGA

4/12/2007 8:36 AM UTC

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Maybe they were kicked out of Erathia and decided to try their luck in Jadame:D :D

Then, the clerics who came from there shouldn't be supporting them.

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and besides, they came to hunt, not to wage war against their own kind

So what? Are you saying that I can go to France and shoot dogs there, saying that I am an officer of the Russian army, and Russia won't react in any way?

Valinor;82354

p.s. I'm defending them not because I agree with them, but because no one else is, and they are a prototype of us. Don't people also treat each other like that, even those of their own kind?

Well, firstly, they are not just people, but Knights. Secondly, apart from moral freaks and terrorists, I don't remember any cases of taking children hostage. And, by the way, no one is defending the terrorists who took the school hostage in Beslan, maybe you should take that up?

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Valinor

4/15/2007 12:03 PM UTC

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Well, firstly, they are not just people, but knights. Secondly, apart from moral degenerates and terrorists, I don't remember any cases of children being taken hostage. And, by the way, no one is defending the terrorists who took over the school in Beslan; maybe you should take that up?

They captured not a human child, but the offspring of a monster.

And so? Are you saying that I can go to France and shoot dogs there, saying that I am an officer of the Russian army, and Russia won't react at all?

The dogs belong to France, but dragons are not pets of dark elves.

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ОMEGA

4/16/2007 6:31 AM UTC

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They captured not a human child, but the offspring of a monster.

The offspring of intelligent beings. IN-TEL-LI-GENT! Not bears, although it would be a pity for a bear cub. In Xeen, races are divided into elves, humans, goblins, etc., while we have Arabs, Caucasians, Asians, and Europeans (or whatever the correct term is), which means that in Beslan, Arabs captured Caucasians – representatives of a different race. So, think about that, and think carefully.

Valinor;83397

Dogs belong to France, and dragons are not tame pets of dark elves.

What about stray dogs? Do they also belong to France? Dragons, in that case, belong to Jadame, and although Jadame does not have a single government, the actions of the dragon slayers could have affected the relations between Erathia and the dark elves – think about it, the dragon slayers came and started doing whatever they wanted, i.e., slaughtering dragons, and why wouldn't they then, when the dragons are gone, call themselves dark elf slayers and start a genocide of dark elves (they are dark, which means they are also not very close to the knights).

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Женёк

6/1/2007 3:46 AM UTC

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dragons... it's a shame there aren't any dead dragons, because a combination of Necropolis and dragons would be cool:rolleyes:

Я буду смеяться, безумно и зло.

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Слоныш

6/1/2007 7:57 AM UTC

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Minotaurs are good, of course. Real tough guys. :smile20:
But after watching the video of a baby dragon observing the execution of its parent, my sympathies are entirely on their side... I'm joining the Jadamsky branch of Greenpeace!:smile14:

Келлендрос

6/10/2007 6:52 AM UTC

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I definitely like dragons, but I mistakenly voted for the Knights because of a glitch. It seemed like there was a "NOT" there.

Meredik

9/2/2007 8:55 AM UTC

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Dragons, but only as a faction. I especially like the video where dragons attack a camp of dragon hunters.

ОMEGA

9/2/2007 2:42 PM UTC

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In that video, I especially liked the phrase in the translation by Booka: "They still walk and breathe, but they are already dead." – And they even made the voice sound really draconic. Truly awesome.

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КорольНежити

9/18/2007 9:20 AM UTC

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Of course, dragons are the best. When playing M&M 8, I never chose the Knights (I felt sorry for the young one). I also like Minotaurs, but not as much. But in my opinion, the Necropolis faction is the coolest!