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#384
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So, in the end, are we deciding based on entry fees?
Participant: 1500 rubles
Spectator: 500 rubles or free
We just need to confirm these numbers now and not go back to them.
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#385
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In summary:
From each participant - 1500 rubles
From each spectator (excluding women and children) - 500 rubles
From each poker player (including rake) - 1000 rubles


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#386
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KobRa_RR
In summary:

Lost 1000 rubles playing poker (including rake).
Tyoma, don't go crazy :D
Get some sleep :D

P.S. We could also tax the people who are just relaxing, since they're playing next to the great Cobra :)
Коротко о себе: спесивый сноб
Чуть длиннее: Фонд Дендроидов
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На ощупь пьют эльфийские стрелки!
Нам это идеально подходит (c)
Это вам не шутки - нажрался Дуст в маршрутке! (с)
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KobRa_RR
In summary:

From poker (including rake) - 1000 rubles.
What nonsense... anyone can play in their own room without paying rake or an entry fee in this case.

лето 2012.
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darkello
What nonsense... anyone can play in a room without contributing to the rake or the buy-in in this case.
You can even play at home and not have to travel anywhere. It's not as fun, of course, but it's a very economical option! I'm planning to do just that! :smile05:

I'm curious about the process of collecting contributions from the "losers." I just want to imagine what it will look like. Will they knock on every door and try to catch people by the hand – but the players are living in those rooms? And did you see "Fish" at the table yesterday? Please pay the rake! ...oh, you're just playing "solitaire"! Sorry. Or like this: you were making noise yesterday, so pay a contribution for the discomfort! :D

I'm in favor of increasing the prize pool and thereby increasing interest in the Main Event, but I think this should be expressed in voluntary donations from people who are NOT participating in the tournament.

Or treat everyone equally, and not divide them into poker players/spectators, to avoid murky issues and determining affiliations.

Let's say 3000 rubles from each participant. I suggest making the buy-in larger, because it's not serious at all. Many of the Heroes players spend about ten thousand rubles on poker in a day, spend 30-50 thousand on travel and accommodation, and play in the Main Event with a buy-in of 1500 – this is not serious, IMHO. The winners should at least cover their expenses and have some small profit from the trip, and receive a real incentive to play, travel, and show their skills!! 500 rubles from each spectator is normal, considering that they also pay for the conference room and don't claim anything – it's a kind of voluntary donation!
The basis of the prize pool should be made up of participants and, if possible, the organizers.

P.S. 10,000 dollars from the organizers!
Тот, кто борется - может проиграть, кто нет - проиграл уже (с)
В прошлом "Координатор турниров Лиги Героев" (www.heroesleague.ru)
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Dust_HL
a kind of voluntary donation!
P.S. the organizers get $10,000)))
So let it be voluntary.
Коротко о себе: спесивый сноб
Чуть длиннее: Фонд Дендроидов
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На ощупь пьют эльфийские стрелки!
Нам это идеально подходит (c)
Это вам не шутки - нажрался Дуст в маршрутке! (с)
Пишите на udd@otso.city
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iDD
Let it be voluntary then.
Let it be )) but there probably won't be many patrons, and if participants have to chip in 1500 each, as suggested, then it will be a rather sad freeroll for the guys! IMHO, of course.
Yes, well, what about you and me!?, but I'm offended by the IDEA! ;-)
Тот, кто борется - может проиграть, кто нет - проиграл уже (с)
В прошлом "Координатор турниров Лиги Героев" (www.heroesleague.ru)
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Dust_HL

Yeah, what's the big deal between you and me?! But I'm offended by the IDEA! ;-)
Kober summarizes it for everyone: D
And Uli won the tournament: D
Коротко о себе: спесивый сноб
Чуть длиннее: Фонд Дендроидов
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На ощупь пьют эльфийские стрелки!
Нам это идеально подходит (c)
Это вам не шутки - нажрался Дуст в маршрутке! (с)
Пишите на udd@otso.city
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#392
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iDD
Kober, as always, sums it up for everyone :D
And by the way, he won the tournament :D
I'll continue the summary:

from poker players - 1000 rubles.
from alcoholics - 1500 + 1000 rubles for moral damages!
smokers +250 rubles to the buy-in for polluting the environment!
from football players, 750 rubles each, even if they don't want to kick the ball!
For Hearthstone players who will be distracted from Heroes and play HS in parallel +500 to the buy-in

The great Kober, who honored us with his visit and raises the level of the entire CIS Championship - free entry, banquet at the expense of the organizers, and drinks for the entire duration of the tournament!
:D
Тот, кто борется - может проиграть, кто нет - проиграл уже (с)
В прошлом "Координатор турниров Лиги Героев" (www.heroesleague.ru)
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#393
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if the buy-in for the tournament is increased to cover the cost of travel, the tournament will consist of Haven or one Cobra.
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#394
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I wonder, what's the best way to recruit poker players?
Some only become poker players after N drinks.
And according to the initial request, the audience benefits the audience.
Я в мечеть не за праведным словом пришёл.
Не стремясь приобщиться к основам пришёл.
В прошлый раз утащил я молитвенный коврик,
Он истерся до дыр, - я за новым пришёл.

© О. Хайям

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oxygen_hl
I wonder, how can you collect from poker players in general?
You can collect not from poker players, but from some tournament. At the Siberia Championship, there was a rebuy tournament with a buy-in of 1000 + fee, and 10% of the collected fees went into the prize pool for Heroes.
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Dirty_Player
You don't have to take it from poker players; you can take it from some other tournament. At the Siberian Championship, there was a rebuy tournament with a buy-in of 1000 + a fee, and 10% of the collected funds went into the prize pool for Heroes.
But this, I think, is a completely different conversation. But it's easier to decide on the spot than here and now.
Я в мечеть не за праведным словом пришёл.
Не стремясь приобщиться к основам пришёл.
В прошлый раз утащил я молитвенный коврик,
Он истерся до дыр, - я за новым пришёл.

© О. Хайям

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#397
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Hey, are you guys going a bit overboard with the contributions?

So, half of you are still undecided. You're going to scare everyone away.
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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#398
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Right here and now, we need to discuss the amount of the mandatory fee so that people don't act surprised on the spot later and say they hadn't planned for these expenses.
As for side collections from poker, that can and should be discussed on-site!!!
I propose the main fee scheme once again:
Organizers - 20 000 rubles
Participants - 1500 rubles
Spectator - 500 rubles
No fees are collected from women and children.
+ rake from the poker tournament
In my opinion, given the crisis conditions, this is a quite good prize pool, IMHO

And generally speaking, we could put our 20 000 rubles not toward the prize pool, but toward some compensations and side expenses for the whole group to reduce the cost of the trip, but that's for the participants to decide)))
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