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BillyBons
So, here's the situation: your opponent passes their turn, and during the turn transition, two different computer-controlled factions attack him – Hive and Dungeon. This all happens on the 6th day of the first week.

Friend, you're a brazen liar. First of all, on turn 116, when I passed you the turn, a computer-controlled faction attacked me. And it was a Tower faction. I bought them off with a small amount of gold and some meat, not with my main army. And it's easy to check by loading my saves. My password is 1234, yours is 007. Don't try to deceive honest people. Did he inflict irreparable damage on me? Well, you know...
BillyBons
When I got my turn and had already completed half of what I planned, the opponent suddenly and unexpectedly left the game and simply wrote that he was done and would finish the game later, and he stopped responding. Although he could have let me finish my turn; it wouldn't have hindered him in any way.

I described this above. My girlfriend pulled me away and told me to go to sleep. That's how it happened, and that's what I wrote. When you get a girlfriend other than Pamela Anderson, you'll understand.
BillyBons
I immediately had a situation in my head: the computer killed the person or inflicted irreparable damage on him.

It's just your fantasies, nothing more. By carefully examining the saves after the game, you could have easily understood that these were false assumptions, but you still haven't done that. Therefore, there are two conclusions: either you don't know how to do it, or you don't care about the facts, and you stubbornly stick to your unfounded line, publicly embarrassing yourself.
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But then he came up with the next tactic: exiting the game and getting a chance to pass his turn again, hoping that the computer wouldn't attack again... (doesn't that happen sometimes?) This is my first question to everyone: has anyone else had a similar experience with this person?

You know, in 99% of cases, the computer factions repeat their moves, if that's what you mean. The only exception is one-sided factions, but that's not the case here.

Regarding the deception. I played one game (Lineage 2) on the official server, and in it, people gave me in-game items worth tens of thousands of rubles, and I sold them. Moreover, these were people from the internet, not my acquaintances. There was so much trust in me from people who only knew me from the game. I could have cheated; I had the opportunity. But I never cheated anyone, either in the game or in life. Especially not you. Why are you so important to me?
BillyBons
Then, when the time came, and the opponent gained confidence, he re-initiated the turn pass. He invited me back into the game and started sabotaging the start of the auto-save by saying things like, "Am I typing the password incorrectly?"

Friend, I wasn't going to re-initiate the turn. I passed you the turn, and you decided NOT to save on your turn. The computer was supposed to offer you to save. It's either that you don't know the game or you don't want to save, one of the two, but in the end, the mistake is yours. Maybe you lost there and that's why you didn't save. So don't accuse me of re-initiating the turn, okay?
BillyBons
It's funny... he then offered a draw.

You're missing details. Again. You don't care about them; they're just empty space for you. I already understood that. I offered you a draw after the 10th unsuccessful attempt to load the save, as I wrote above, I'm questioning your attention to detail.
BillyBons
I refused, knowing that his computer had killed him, and I hoped that during the turn pass, the computer would make the same move. This happened 3-5 times; we couldn't start the auto-save. My opponent wrote that there was a glitch and that I needed to give him my password and enter his password, saying that the game had glitched and everything had changed.

Again, a lie. I gave you the password first and told you to check everything in single-player. Then I loaded the game again, and it still didn't work. And only after that did I offer a draw so we wouldn't suffer. You, brother, are a liar. But I have screenshots. Why are you doing this?
BillyBons
Now, my second question: has this happened to anyone else???

It happened to me. A long time ago. HD mod isn't perfect.
BillyBons
Then, after I gave him the password, and he put me in his position and put himself in mine, he entered my password, and I was asked to enter his. In this way, he saw my positions and decided to continue playing.

Friend. Why didn't you tell me that you were playing as Tower? I'm appealing to your inattentiveness again! We loaded the game ten times. Okay, I forgot... But you?? Do you remember that? Or did you do it on purpose to set me up? Like, "I remember everything." Lies. Don't play dumb.
BillyBons
My conclusion: I deleted him from my contacts and will look among the 7 billion people living on this planet for those who won't want to deceive me, taking advantage of my trust. SEVENSAHN PNH.

Are you back from Maidan or something? Jumping around in other places, all the best to you.

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Well, give us the saves, otherwise, it gives the impression that you're not quite right.

I presented the saves in the post above. If you need them, I don't mind.
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Sevensan

You know, in 99% of cases, the AI repeats its moves if that's what happens. The exception is one-sided maps, but that version is ruled out here.
I'm asking in general, what is this statement based on?
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Sanin
I'm asking this regardless of the current situation, what is this statement based on?

It's based on many years of experience when loading save files...
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Sevensan
Based on many years of experience loading save files...
I've encountered situations where the AI doesn't repeat its moves, so I'll need to test that.
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I just realized something: the name of the save file uniquely determines the player colors.
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zoog
I just realized something: the save file name uniquely determines the player colors.
That's not true... sometimes you have to change it, especially if you're blue and creating a save.
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I usually add something to the end of the autosave file name, like the date, so that the saves for one game are in sequence. Otherwise, you'll get confused in several playthroughs. And here, we were talking about autosaves.
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I usually add something to the end of the autosave name, like the date, so that the saves for one game are in sequence. Otherwise, you'll get confused in multiple playthroughs. But here, we're talking about an autosave.
Armchair analysis: how could it be about an autosave if the player loading the autosave had already played games against other opponents (I understand he was just loading his last save of the day)? In general, this situation can be easily explained by the fact that there are some "default" rules among players who have been playing on this site for more than a year. Also, the game was for money, which naturally sharpens the "intuition" of a newcomer (to this site), and Seven gave him something to think about, just as if, for example, Billy Bons had been disconnected a couple of times for some reason, Seven would have had doubts about his honesty. The primary reason for describing this situation was that (my subjective opinion based on what I read in the first post), the opponent threatened to discredit Seven, so he didn't wait for Billy Bons' interpretations and wrote everything himself. Essentially, there is a lack of trust between the opponents, and as has been said many times here, if you're not sure, don't play for stakes against someone you don't trust.
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DaU
In the book of water, there are no 5th-level spells (we are not considering elements), but they are present in the other books, and the cost of the books is the same, which is a clear imbalance. The books should be limited to the 4th level.
Don't forget about the water elemental, please.
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DaU, how can I hint subtly... other elements are different, but water is water.
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I've encountered situations where the AI doesn't repeat its moves; I'll need to test it.

Many have experienced this. If you find a pattern, you'll be a hero!


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Based on years of experience loading saves...
It's funny to hear about years of experience from someone who doesn't remember which faction they were playing as in the save. At least try to generate some AI behavior before making such claims like 99%.

I don't understand something else. How did it happen that you loaded the save with the wrong colors? Did you have the same passwords or something? Or does the loading work even if the colors are wrong?
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Dirty_Player
It's funny to hear about years of experience from someone who doesn't remember which faction they played on that save. At least try to generate some AI behavior before making claims like 99%.

I don't understand something else. How did it happen that you loaded the game with the wrong colors? Did you have the same passwords or something? Or does the loading work even if the colors are wrong?


They couldn't load the game, so they decided it was a bug in the HD mod and that the mod itself swapped their factions. After that, they shared their passwords with each other :D :D :D
Quite a story :smile04:
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I don't understand something else. How did it happen that you uploaded the wrong color?

It's funny to hear about years of judging experience from someone who didn't even read the first post of the discussion.
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DaU
the other elements, besides the elements themselves, also have spells.
yes, Sacrifice is the most important spell, everyone only levels up Fire for it) but in reality, Water has many cool spells for Expert difficulty, like Bless, Phantom, and Teleport)

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I don't understand something else. How did it happen that you loaded the game with the wrong colors? Did you have the same passwords or something? Or does the loading work even if the colors are wrong?
I think Billy just created the game and played as Red, while Sevensan played as Blue, and when loading, Sevensan, being the server, didn't switch the players' positions)
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