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11 years ago
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Greetings everyone!
I'll start in order. The recreation center has been booked—the contract is signed, and the deposit has been paid. An estimate of 40 people was provided. The final terms from the administration are: one day (weekday) of accommodation as a gift for all guests; a mandatory banquet for each guest totaling 2300r. (excluding alcohol); conference hall rental is 25000 r. per day for a period of 7 calendar days. Breakfast is free (buffet); they insist on a mandatory order of a meal package (lunch 400 + dinner 350r); the number of people must be specified 10-14 days before the event. Now, in more detail.
1) Accommodation: What are the pros:
a) The recreation center is located 15-20 min drive from the city center in a picturesque place near the Volga.
b) A 15-20 minute drive is 350r. for 4 people by taxi (100r per person) to any place of interest in the city center.
c) The center is well-maintained, clean, beautiful, cozy, and the interior of the room stock is of a high standard.
d) There is an outdoor pool (large) which will be filled right at the end of April, as well as football, volleyball, and tennis courts (free of charge).
e) Each guest gets a free one-hour daily pass to the indoor pool, sauna, and hammam—the level of service and comfort there is simply off the charts (in a good way).
f) There is a separate conference hall, plus a free night bar nearby (drinks are paid), they will set up any tables and chairs convenient for us, and they won't disturb us. There is a free projector, karaoke, and sound equipment.
g) Currently, work is being done at the center to improve the Internet service. The work will be completed within 2 weeks (maximum).
They promised that our internet would be decent; for my part, I'll say that the issue must be resolved regardless—since the Internet provider at the center is my business partner—I buy my internet from him myself, and I think it's technically possible to boost the channel for us for the week—so the internet issue is off the agenda.
The vacation turns out to be elite—there's no point in lying here—you just have to see it with your own eyes, especially in May—when, as my favorite Anna German sings, "the gardens bloom"!
And one day of accommodation (weekday) is free.
What are the cons:
If there are pros, there must be cons. But this is harder.
a) Mandatory banquet—the administration's condition—ordering a banquet with a minimum check of 2300 r. per person without alcohol (bring your own), or for any amount, but with their alcohol (the cheapest vodka there is 800r.). Hand on heart—I see no downsides to this event—2300r. is not that much money by today's standards, moreover—they aren't taking it from us—we'll all spend it together in a gorgeous restaurant with mind-blowing appetizers and a fantastic lineup of participants! (we can order the menu ourselves—dishes from all over the world, sturgeon fish, game—for every taste and budget).
However, that's not the main point. The essence is that ordering the banquet allows us to completely resolve the issue with our own alcohol at the center. Yes. We will drink hard. But our own (though I'm not discouraging you from the bars—please). The only condition is that our alcohol will be stored in the restaurant (it will be issued/brought to us upon first request). Furthermore, Sasha and I have sorted out the draft beer in the restaurant—there will be fresh beer of the varieties we're interested in every day (we have experience in this matter, just trust us), with a minimal markup! To close the topic—the concept of vacationing at this center does not involve drinking and eating just anywhere (but we can)—take Turkey or Egypt as an example—you can't drink and eat in the rooms, only in special areas—I think this is all clear.
b) Comprehensive lunch
400r for lunch, 350 for dinner—the lady turned out to be very pushy (I don't blame her for that). A varied menu, no repeats on the board; for those used to eating well and on schedule—this is a reliable and good option. As mentioned above—the number of interested people must be specified about 10 days in advance. Well, we'll order it; for those who don't want it—we'll fight to make sure it's not mandatory for everyone. I don't think it's a big problem, it's a very reliable and tasty option, and vitamins... well, you know!
c) Conference hall 25K per day.
Not cheap. However, given the stated price of 3500 per hour, the number of attendees, 24-hour operation... they asked for 50—we nearly gouged their eyes out, threatened to leave, Sanya fainted 4 times... It is what it is—there's no going back now.
Let's summarize.
"Saving the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves!"
We have the price, discounts have been announced—personally, I see everything in positive tones—they haven't raised the prices, and they won't anymore—what else is needed? We'll work with what we have—think and try to improve the already attractive sides of the event. I'll add from myself that yes, it might have been possible to find slightly cheaper vacation options—but look at the number of our pros!? What could we theoretically have saved? 2K rubles per participant? It would be too doubtful to risk it for such a negligible amount. The more people we gather—the cheaper the hall rental will be for us—I think that's clear to everyone. Right now it costs us about 625 per person per day? Is that expensive? I don't think so. So, study it, reply—submit your suggestions—let's keep working!
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11 years ago
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Bert, now calculate the minimum cost with tickets and alcohol :)
I calculated about 35k for 7 days, at the very minimum.

P.S. I didn't really limit myself with alcohol xD
P.P.S. And yes, the probability of me coming was initially about 25%, due to circumstances beyond my control.
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from what point should we start counting? what changed to increase the score?

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A ticket for the "Victory" event from Moscow costs 1500 rubles - this has already been announced.
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Albert@s
From what point should we start counting? What has changed that leads to an increase in the score?

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A ticket on "Pobeda" from Moscow costs 1500 rubles - this has already been announced.
Bertik, I love you!
It's good that they will all be coming from Moscow!
Al, I believe that you have chosen the best base in the area, but not everyone here is paid fairly for their work.
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На ощупь пьют эльфийские стрелки!
Нам это идеально подходит (c)
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It's like some kind of pioneer camp with our alcohol in their bar. Also, I didn't see the total price for 7 days for a standard room – did I understand correctly that without the road trip, it will be 25k for 7 days?
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alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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We open the first page, select the number of rooms, multiply by 6 days, add the rental cost of the hall (which will be known later), and add the banquet expenses. What's so complicated? Arrival options to the base: on foot, by car, by train, by plane/helicopter – underline the appropriate option.
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Albert@s
Let's open the first page, choose the number of rooms, multiply by 6 days,
+ add the rental cost of the hall (it will be known later), and add the banquet costs. What's so complicated? Options for arriving at the base: on foot, by car, by train, by plane/helicopter - highlight the necessary one.
Bertushka, you're hungover... :D

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Let's open the first page, choose the number of rooms, multiply by 6 days,
+ add the rental cost of the hall (it will be known later), and add the banquet costs. What's so complicated? Options for arriving at the base: on foot, by car, by train, by plane/helicopter - highlight the necessary one.
Bertushka, you're hungover... :D
Open Skype, please.
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На ощупь пьют эльфийские стрелки!
Нам это идеально подходит (c)
Это вам не шутки - нажрался Дуст в маршрутке! (с)
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we open the first page:
By default, Discussion of CIS-2015 details
Did I understand correctly that in 2015, in the heroic city of St. Petersburg, in May, the CIS championship will be held, and moreover, it will be organized by Horn and Lord Maniac?
Sign me up right away, I'm happy to participate.)))
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alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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1200x6+2300+(500-600)x7=?
What is another way to calculate this?
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Albert@s
1200x6+2300+(500-600)x7=?
Is there another way to calculate this?
You have internet, but no Skype :D
How will you run the CIS tournament? :D
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На ощупь пьют эльфийские стрелки!
Нам это идеально подходит (c)
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Albert@s
1200x6+2300+(500-600)x7=?
What other way is there to calculate it?
Well, it's around 14500, plus tickets, plus drinks, plus travel expenses, and the sum of 35k doesn't seem too high... and that's still without poker...:eek:
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I got a different total than you – maybe I calculated something wrong?

1500 x 7 (standard room accommodation) = 10500
625 x 7 (hall for 40 people) = 4300
1 banquet = 2300
750 x 7 (catering) = 5200
Total: 22300
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alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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[/U]A ticket for the "Pobeda" flight from Moscow costs 1500 rubles - this has already been announced.
A ticket for the end of March on Pobeda is already 2000, and what will happen in April is unknown; they are not yet on sale.
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Don't teach them math!
They already have a great mathematician there ;)
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На ощупь пьют эльфийские стрелки!
Нам это идеально подходит (c)
Это вам не шутки - нажрался Дуст в маршрутке! (с)
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calculate for a smaller city... for Tomsk, for example))) and without airplanes.
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