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I didn't give permission for the replacements; I'll share my opinion on this later.
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The rules (which you blatantly violated, by the way, by making a substitution without waiting for permission from the tournament organizers) are the rules, but there's also common sense. And I am guided by it in my judgments. I spent some time on the tournament, and I want the tournament to remain interesting, and not turn into a circus where everyone does whatever they want.

Well, finally, a sensible post. Let's wait for the judges, and not create another circus, there are already too many of them here.


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Fire? Joker? Are you guys out of your minds with such replacements??
Although, we should acknowledge Kober's modesty; he could have easily persuaded Alex to join his team.
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Fire? Joker? Are you guys crazy with such replacements??
Although, we should acknowledge Kober's modesty; he could have easily persuaded Alex to join his team.
Seriously, Alex and Bayazet are available. Does anyone need players for the 2nd or 3rd tier? :D
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Fire? Joker? Are you guys crazy with such replacements??
Although, we should acknowledge Kober's modesty; he could have easily persuaded Alex to join his team.
So, according to you, the second tier is full of noobs who don't stand a chance?

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So, according to you, the second tier is full of noobs who have no chance?

Where did you read that? In my opinion, both players I mentioned deserve to be in the first tier, that's the point I was trying to make.
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Where did you read that? In my opinion, both players I mentioned deserve to be in the top tier, and that's the point I'm trying to make.
We've been trying to convey this for the past two days.
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Fire? Joker? Are you guys crazy with such replacements??
Although, we should acknowledge Kober's modesty; he could have easily persuaded Alex to join his team.

Thank you, Artem! I am like that.) I thought everyone knew Alex))
I believe that when our most fair judges decided to replace 2 players in one team just 2 days before the end, they opened Pandora's Box. There are no replacements mentioned in the regulations. If it's allowed for one, why not for others?
And by the way, I played with Joker back in 2003 in the quarterfinals in Krasnodar; he was a player of the same caliber as Bishop or Stinger...
However, if Identity had played all the games on time and been available on AIM, I wouldn't have even considered making replacements in our team.


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Basically, the situation in our group is that we need to win 3 out of the remaining 3 matches. The search for a solution began after Dirty wrote that he would assign tech points to everyone after January 18th. I need to play 2 games before that date, so I naturally contacted Cobra to inquire about the situation with Identity, as Identity hadn't responded to me on ICQ since October 10th. I have a conversation with him – it's basically my monologue over 2 months. And since losing a match results in 2 points being deducted, and we still won't advance, this issue needed to be resolved. I don't know the skill level of all the players, so I gave Cobra a list of 5 people we could ask; he contacted them himself because I had already played my match. Then I contacted Lucky George to post a report, and I asked Identity to confirm it, but there's no result. Cobra asked Just Observer about this situation with the last game, and he said that Identity hadn't started a match with him. We needed to act quickly because Dirty's team is in our group, and he's interested in this. It will be much easier for him to assign tech points to us and help us advance from the group, even though his team is 100% advancing.
Find the best way out of this situation. Of course, I don't want to grind in 2 games for the best possible result and then get eliminated because a player from my team doesn't care, and they'll assign tech points to him in his game. That's the situation, I leave it to your judgment.

P.S. Please ask the organizers to comment on this issue by 7:00 PM Moscow time, because I need to finish 2 games today. If the result is negative, then there's no point.

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In short, the situation in our group is that we need to win 3 out of the remaining 3 matches. The search for a solution began after Dirty wrote that he would give everyone technical wins after January 18th. I need to play 2 games before that date, so I naturally contacted Cobra to inquire about the situation with Identity, as Identity hadn't responded to me on ICQ since October 10th. I have a conversation with him – it's basically my monologue over 2 months. And since losing a player results in 2 points being deducted, we still wouldn't advance, so this issue needed to be resolved. I don't know the skill level of all the players, so I gave Cobra a list of 5 people we could ask; he contacted them himself because I had already played my match. Then I contacted Lucky George to post a report, asking Identity to confirm it, but there was no result. Cobra asked Just Observer about this situation with the last game, and he said that Identity hadn't started a match with him. We needed to act quickly, as Dirty's team is in our group, and he is interested. It would be much easier for him to give us technical wins and advance from the group, even though his team is 100% going through.
Find the best way out of this situation. Of course, I don't want to grind in 2 games for the best possible result and then lose because a player from my team doesn't care, and they'll give technical wins to him in his game. That's the situation, I leave it to your judgment.

Confirmed. Dirty was given the name of a replacement player who agreed to play; we waited 3 hours for a response while Dirty was online, but we didn't receive a response, and JustObserver could only play at night, so we decided to play, and the opponent didn't object. In the morning, it turns out that Dirty is against it... Why wasn't this said immediately? Did he consult with Nitro? I'm speechless. :mad:


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I don't know how the judges will handle all this mess.
But I'll try to describe some aspects of the organization and the actual situation. The judge who created this tournament should be banned for two years. Everyone has problems in real life, but at least they could post an apology, but there's nothing. It's good that they changed the judges. They need to start organizing games in advance, what's the point of leaving everything to the last moment? Can't they replace someone earlier? You see that they're silent, they're kicked out, and that's the end of it. Why drag it out? Everyone wants the continuation, not this mess, which is killing the interest for people. The stronger the players are, the more interesting it is for me, and for my team, I'll say. I'm not against FTS, Alex, Bayazet, Pavkur, or anyone else. If they had made these changes earlier, the guys would have played, and there wouldn't have been any delays. But now, half the forum will be arguing and getting dumber. And we won't get the draw. People will start going crazy – withdrawals, etc. This is my personal opinion, and I give my approval to everything, I just don't know how the judges will manage to do the draw for the next stage! Leave the slots empty for the teams that still need to qualify, and let the others continue playing. And for the future, judges, don't delay with the games. Three out of nine games weren't played by a certain deadline, and someone didn't respond – ban them, let them replace the player earlier. And those who drop out of the tournaments shouldn't be allowed to register for the next one.
Maybe it's a bit emotional, but that's how it is. Let's wait for Dirty
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Palach HP
I don't know how the judges will handle this whole circus.
But I'll try to describe something about the organization and, in fact, about the realities. The judge who created this tournament should be banned for two years. Everyone has problems in real life, but they could at least post an apology, but there's nothing. It's good that they changed the judges. They need to start dealing with the players in advance, what's the point of leaving everything to the last moment? Can't they replace someone earlier? You see that they're silent, they're kicked out, and that's it. Why drag it out? Everyone wants the continuation, not this mess, which is killing people's interest. The stronger the players, the more interesting it is for me, and for my team. I'm not against FTS, Alex, Bayazet, Pavkur, or anyone else. But if they had made these changes earlier, the guys would have played, and there wouldn't have been any delays. And now, half the forum will be arguing and getting dumber. And we won't get the draw. People will start going crazy - withdrawals, etc. This is just my personal opinion, and I give my approval to everything, I just don't know how the judges will do the draw for the next stage! Leave the slots empty for the teams that still have to qualify, and let the others play on. And for the future, judges, don't delay with the games. Three out of nine games weren't played by a certain deadline, he didn't get in touch - ban him, let him replace the player earlier. And those who drop out of the tournaments shouldn't be allowed to register for the next one.
Maybe it's a bit emotional, but that's how it is, we'll wait for Dirty.

You're right about everything. Identity was silent, but he played! But he didn't play the last game. And they gave us a strict deadline: either the result, or goodbye. We did everything we could, we delivered the result, but now they still want to say goodbye to us. And it's not some random people. Fine, if they don't like FTS, they should say it right away, give us time to find a replacement, a day to play, we're not asking for much. We try to play all the games on time, we do everything possible for this, but we need to see that our efforts are not in vain.


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Palach HP
The judge who created this tournament should be banned for 2 years. Everyone has problems in real life, but at least they could post an apology, but there's nothing.

What if he's getting treatment for gaming addiction?
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За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Group A, Game 2
We couldn't agree on a time for a long time, played several rounds, and eventually, due to time constraints, we agreed on a draw.

That's exactly what happened. Thanks for the game!
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I'd like to know if a preliminary or final decision has been made. Please announce it. There may be several options:
1) The report for Faertuskay vs. Observer will be accepted;
2) They will allow choosing another player;
3) The judges or organizer will contact Identity and Observer to schedule a one-on-one duel;
4) Identity or Observer will receive a technical win.

The timeframe is good, but I also spent time and effort on this tournament. It's not a tournament for schoolchildren, and I don't want to chase after other participants and beg them to play against each other.

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