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There are nine ranks of angels in total, and you say there aren't seven types of angels.
And it's not just Christian angels. Take cupids, for example – aren't they a first-level creature? And their ability could be a bonus to diplomacy or something along those lines.
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Cavalier: Here, races are created not for a specific implementation, but for personal enjoyment. And I hope the paladin race was just a joke. Ghost: Where did the vampire race fail? If you're talking about the implementation, then it was already created as a "race on paper," but there's a very well-thought-out race of cooks. Skeptics: You can make a race out of almost anything; the Jungle race convincingly proves this. And in general, in Forgotten Realms, they already created a race of angels, called celestials. You can slightly adjust them and add them to Heroes.
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The angel race is a bit too much...
but it could be implemented like in Age of Wonders 2, with Archons, where all the units are saints and paladins and angels... and everyone is happy.

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Here are the Celestials from Forgotten Realms:
Luminous Archon
Beam of Light (Ex): beams illuminate the area within a 30-foot range.
Magical Abilities: At will: aid, continual flame, detect evil, and message. These abilities are as spells cast by a 3rd-level wizard.
Celestial Traits: Aura of Menace (DC 11), magic circle against evil, immunity to electricity and petrification, teleportation, languages, +4 save vs poison.
Hound Archon
Magical Abilities: At will: aid, continual flame, detect evil, and message. These abilities are as spells cast by a 6th-level wizard.
Celestial Traits: Aura of Menace (DC 16), magic circle against evil, immunity to electricity and petrification, teleportation, languages, +4 save vs poison.
Alternative Form (Su): An H.A. can assume any canine form (except for a werewolf or other lycanthrope) as a standard action. This ability, similar to that of a polymorph, allows transformation only into dogs.
While the H.A. is in canine form, it benefits from the following two abilities - double speed and a +4 circumstance bonus to Hide and Wilderness Knowledge.
Avoral
Their keen eyesight is simply incredible: They can see details of objects at a distance of up to 10 miles and, as they say, can distinguish up to 200 shades of a creature's eye color.
Magical Abilities: At will: aid, blur (self only), command, detect magic, dimension door, dispel magic, gust of wind, hold person, light, magic circle against evil (self only), magic missile, and see invisibility; 1/day – lightning bolt. These abilities are as spells cast by an 8th-level wizard (save DC 13 + spell level).
Fear Aura (Su): Once a day, an avoral can create a fear aura in a 20-foot radius. This is identical to a spell cast by an 8th-level wizard (save DC 17).
Celestial Traits: immunity to electricity and petrification, cold and acid resistance 20, languages, +4 save vs poison.
Lay on Hands (Su): Works exactly like the paladin's ability, but an avoral can heal as much damage per day as its total hit points in an undamaged state.
Animal Empathy (Su): An avoral can mentally communicate with animals as a free action. This works like the speak with animals spell cast by an 8th-level druid, but does not require speaking aloud.
True Seeing (Su): Identical to the true seeing spell cast by a 14th-level cleric, except that it has a personal range, and the avoral must concentrate for 1 full round before applying true seeing. After this, the effect remains in force as long as the avoral concentrates on it.
Skills: The avoral's keen eyes provide a +8 racial bonus to Spot checks.
Gael
Magical Abilities: At will: aid, alter self, charm monster, color spray, comprehend languages, continual flame, cure light wounds, dancing lights, detect evil, detect thoughts, dispel magic, hold monster, improved invisibility (self only), major image, see invisibility, and teleport without error (self plus objects weighing up to 50 pounds); 1/day - chain lightning, prismatic spray, and wall of force. These abilities are as spells cast by a 12th-level wizard (save DC 13 + spell level).
Spells: Gaels in humanoid form can cast divine spells from the cleric list and the Air, Animals, Chaos, Good, and Plants domains as 14th-level clerics (save DC 13 + spell level).
Gaze (Su): In humanoid form, kills any evil creatures with 5 or fewer HP, range 60 ft, save DC 18. Even if the save is successful, the creature is affected by fear for 2d10 rounds. Non-evil creatures, and evil creatures with more than 5 HP, must succeed in a Will save, DC 18 or suffer the fear effect.
Positive Energy (Ex): The G.'s shimmering sword deals an additional 2d6 positive energy damage to evil creatures.
Beam of Light (Ex): In sphere form, G. can project light beams with a range of 300 feet.
Celestial Traits: Aura of Protection, immunity to electricity and petrification, cold and acid resistance 20, languages, +4 save vs poison.
Alternative Form (Su): G. can change from humanoid form to spherical form as a standard action. In humanoid form, it cannot fly or use Beams of Light, but it can use the Gaze attack and apply magical abilities, make physical attacks and cast spells. In sphere form, it can fly, use Beams of Light and apply magical abilities, but cannot cast spells or use the Gaze attack.
G. remains in one of the forms until it wishes to assume another. The change of form cannot be dispelled, and G. does not return to the other form when killed. The true seeing spell, however, shows both forms simultaneously.
Trumpet Archon
Magical Abilities: At will: detect evil, continual flame, and message. These abilities are as spells cast by a 12th-level wizard.
Celestial Traits: Aura of Menace (DC 19), magic circle against evil, immunity to electricity and petrification, teleportation, cold and acid resistance 20, languages, +4 save vs poison
Spells: A Trumpet Archon can cast divine spells from the cleric list and the Air, Destruction, Good, Law, and War domains as 14th-level clerics (save DC 13 + spell level).
Trumpet (Su): The T.A. plays music of extraordinary clarity and penetrating beauty and, if it wishes, this music paralyzes. All creatures except archons within 100 ft must succeed in a Fortitude save (DC 19), or be paralyzed for 1d4 rounds. The T.A. can also command its trumpet to become a +4 greatsword - free action.
If the trumpet is stolen, it becomes a piece of useless iron until the archon recovers it. Woe betide any thief caught with the trumpet.
Astral Deva
Stunning (Su): If an A.D. hits an opponent with its mace twice in one round, the creature must succeed in a Fortitude save (DC 15) or be stunned for 1d6 rounds.
Magical Abilities: At will: aid, continual flame, detect evil, discern lies, dispel evil, dispel magic, holy aura, holy smite, holy word, invisibility sphere (self only), polymorph self, remove curse, remove disease, and remove fear; 7/day-see invisibility and cure light wounds; 1/day-heal and blade barrier. These abilities are as spells cast by a 12th-level wizard (save DC 15 + spell level).
Celestial Traits: Aura of Protection; fire resistance 20, languages, immunity to electricity, cold, acid and petrification, +4 save vs poison.
Evasive Ability (Ex): An A.D. can never be caught off guard and cannot be flanked.
Skills: Extraordinary alertness, the A.D. receives a +4 racial bonus to Spot and Listen checks.
Planetar
Magical Abilities: At will: continual flame, dispel magic, holy smite, improved invisibility (self only), lesser restoration, remove curse, remove disease, remove fear, and speak with dead; 3/day-blade barrier, flame strike, and raise dead; 1/day- earthquake, greater restoration, shapechange, and symbol (any). These abilities are as spells cast by a 17th-level wizard (save DC 16 + spell level).
The following abilities of the P. are always active as spells cast by a 17th-level wizard: detect evil, detect snares and pits, discern lies, see invisibility, and true seeing. They can be dispelled, but the P. can restore them - free action.
Spells: The P. can cast divine spells from the cleric list and the Air, Destruction, Good, Law, and War domains as 17th-level clerics (save DC 16 + spell level).
Celestial Traits: Protective Aura, fire resistance 20, languages, immunity to electricity, cold, acid and petrification, +4 save vs poison.
Solar
Magical Abilities: At will: aid, animate objects, commune, continual flame, dimensional anchor, greater dispelling, holy smite, imprisonment, improved invisibility (self only), lesser restoration, remove curse, remove disease, remove fear, resist elements, summon monster VII, and speak with dead; 3/day-blade barrier, earthquake, heal, permanency, resurrection, and shapechange; 1/day-greater restoration, mass charm, power word blind, power word kill, power word stun, prismatic spray, symbol (any), and wish. These abilities are as spells cast by a 20th-level wizard (save DC 17 + spell level).
The following abilities of the S. are always active as spells cast by a 20th-level wizard: detect evil, detect snares and pits, discern lies, see invisibility, and true seeing. They can be dispelled, but the solar can restore them - free action.
Spells: The S. can cast divine spells from the cleric list and the Air, Destruction, Good, Law, and War domains as 20th-level clerics (save DC 17 + spell level).
Celestial Traits: Protective Aura, fire resistance 20, languages, immunity to electricity, cold, acid and petrification, +4 save vs poison.
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You are wrong. Firstly, a pantheon of creatures was built around just one demon, right? Secondly, let's forget about a completely flying race. No faction has ever consisted entirely of one race. Angels will act as mages – who have their created/joined units.
Budda;77866
Angels as a race... hmm... no, there aren't 7 types of angels...

You're mistaken; in Christian mythology, there are as many as 9 types. Seraphim, cherubim, thrones, dominions, powers, authorities, principalities, angels, and archangels. But no one will really make 7 types of angels. We need several creatures – not angels. A series of logically interconnected (at least in spirit) creatures. You could create a series of incorporeal spirits. Or – in a material form.

A series of creatures suitable for them:

- Centaur. Like angels, it is white and fluffy.

- Prophet. Remember the 10 plagues of Egypt? A ranged attacker and caster.

- Seraphim/Cherub. Guardian angels with a lion's head.

P.S.: Who said it's impossible to make a vampire race? I did! )
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You're mistaken, in Christian mythology there are as many as 9 types. Seraphim, cherubim, thrones, dominions, virtues, powers, principalities, angels and archangels. But truly, no one is going to make 7 types of angels. You need several creatures here that aren't angels. A series of logically interconnected (at least in spirit) creatures. You could make a series of incorporeal spirits. Or—in material form.
Mythologies!!!:smile52: :smile52: :smile52: I'm rolling on the floor! Mythology is Koschei the Deathless and a talking frog with enough reaction time to catch a flying arrow. But angels are religion.

Sorry for the off-topic, of course, but I just couldn't help myself!:D :D :D Mythologies!!!:smile52::smile52::smile52:
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Yes, I also found that strange. Mythology is about Greece and Rome, plus a couple of other countries. But it definitely isn't a religion, where angels are generally featured.
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you are too attached to religion – this limits your perspective and imagination. Let's remember Loki – Armageddon and a rain of sulfur)) I think you get the idea... angels were different, and varied greatly in appearance – six-armed, six-winged, etc. If we recall the mythology of Erathia, their supreme deity is a dragon of light, so we can make a level 7 creature a dragon, and a level 1 creature a priest.
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Mythology!!! :smile52: :smile52: :smile52: I'm rolling on the floor! Mythology is Koschei the Deathless and a talking frog with enough reaction time to catch a flying arrow. And angels are religion.

Sorry for the off-topic, but I just had to say it!:D :D :D Mythology!!!:smile52::smile52::smile52:


"In the Christian mythological tradition, the hierarchy of angelic beings, developed by Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite...". Nothing strange about it.
Всадница_паладин;78059
Yes, it also struck me as odd. Mythology is Greece and Rome + a couple more countries. But definitely not religion, where angels are featured.

Myths are not tied to specific countries. These are legends that may or may not be related to religion. And in general, they've stirred up a lot of confusion here :/ Let's talk about the castle's composition instead.
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I think the distinguishing features of such a race would be – high speed and initiative, and high damage output. Hero development would focus on attack and spellcasting.
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aha... And they will all be flying units. And that disrupts the balance.
but... angels without wings don't exist!
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they suggested using prophets or other units... And the balance can be adjusted by changing the characteristics and the cost of units and buildings in the castle...
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Yeah... and they'll all be flying units. And that disrupts the balance.
But... angels can't exist without wings!

Not all of them. 3-4 units - no more. If you have such arguments, there's no need to bring them up.
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If anyone is interested:

The Angelic ranks are divided into three hierarchies – higher, middle, and lower. Each hierarchy consists of three ranks. The higher hierarchy includes: Seraphim, Cherubim, and Thrones. The six-winged Seraphim (Flaming, Fiery) (Isaiah 6:2) stand closest to the Holy Trinity. They are aflame with love for God and inspire others to love Him. After the Seraphim, the many-eyed Cherubim (Genesis 3:24) stand before the Lord. Their name means: the outpouring of wisdom, enlightenment, for through them, shining with the light of knowledge of God and understanding of divine mysteries, wisdom and enlightenment are bestowed for true knowledge of God. After the Cherubim, the God-bearing Thrones (Colossians 1:16) stand, by the grace given to them for service, mysteriously and incomprehensibly bearing God. They serve God's justice. The middle Angelic hierarchy consists of three ranks: Dominions, Powers, and Authorities.
The Dominions (Colossians 1:16) rule over the subsequent ranks of Angels. They instruct earthly rulers appointed by God in wise governance. The Dominions teach how to control feelings, subdue sinful desires, enslave the flesh to the spirit, dominate one's own will, and overcome temptations.
The Powers (1 Peter 3:22) fulfill the will of God. They perform miracles and bestow the grace of miracles and clairvoyance upon God's servants. The Powers help people in carrying out their duties, strengthen them in patience, and grant them spiritual strength and courage.
The Authorities (1 Peter 3:22; Colossians 1:16) have the power to subdue the power of the devil. They deflect demonic temptations from people, support ascetics, protect them, and help people in the struggle against evil thoughts. The lower hierarchy includes three ranks: Principalities, Archangels, and Angels.
The Principalities (Colossians 1:16) rule over the lower angels, directing them to fulfill God's commandments. They are entrusted with managing the universe, protecting countries, peoples, and tribes. The Principalities instruct people to give honor to everyone according to their rank. They teach those in authority to fulfill their duties not for personal glory and benefit, but for the honor of God and the benefit of their neighbors.
The Archangels (1 Thessalonians 4:16) proclaim great and glorious things, reveal the mysteries of faith, prophecy, and understanding of God's will, strengthen people in their holy faith, and enlighten their minds with the light of the Holy Gospel.
The Angels (1 Peter 3:22) are closest to people. They announce God's intentions, instruct people in virtuous and holy life. They protect believers, keep them from falling, raise up those who have fallen, never leave us, and are always ready to help if we wish
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No, you just can't fit angels into the concept – they would look out of place next to humans – almost like they would be incomplete, like renegades.
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