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11 years ago
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Oven, that Shaman answered my question about Leshy's ultimate ability.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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11 years ago
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mika
The cop pushed for all the votes first, mafia usually don't like to cast the first vote; they usually join the flow later. Usually, townies go first, so I'm not inclined to think the cop is mafia. And he was the first to vote for Revan, and he changed his vote for Heroist after Alex's explanation.
OK, then explain why Olam is worse? Judging based on behavior is completely stupid! But justifying based on behavior is even more stupid.
You should only judge based on the results of interrogations - it's not ideal, but I've never seen a style where mafia or town start justifying a townie by pointing fingers at everyone else: "No, we shouldn't hang him - let's hang him instead! Or that guy - he doesn't have a good face! Or that one - he's just a newbie and quiet! Or anyone else!" Only mafia behave like that! (Well, also cultists or townies who know each other, but we only have one cult here: the witch and her apprentice, and the apprentice isn't in on it).
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11 years ago
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Actually, there is: Ment should be executed because, despite being questioned twice, he still left options that suggest he's Mafia, and some people are actively trying to defend him.
If Ment is Mafia, then he's a Werewolf. And if he's a Werewolf, then the Witch robbed Nera, whom the Guardian swapped with Ment. How likely is this, considering the exposed Alexigla?
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11 years ago
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Why does everyone think that way? Yashur's vote was the ninth, even though 9 votes are required for an execution (17 players). This doesn't take into account the possible Priest and Mermaid, but there was no information about them, so we can't say for sure that the Warlock was definitely targeted.

It seems that something else is more interesting - on the first day, there were 2 polls, and both of them apparently ended up in the Mafia's favor, and in both, judging by the poll, there were more Mafia roles :D
I compiled a summary of the voting, with the already known result (the fact of the execution that broke the defense).
His vote was the last one for Revan. The Mafia usually, when they don't want to be obviously exposed, often spread their votes, but let's say statistically, they add more votes to their own. Especially since there was a protection. And that's why those who started the movement are less suspicious, but those who finished it are more suspicious. And there was a good vote from Yashur, and a neutral non-vote from 2 people.
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11 years ago
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If we hang the Town Guard, we risk hanging the only role capable of controlling the Serial Killer.

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Another argument against Yashur is that he suddenly started advocating for hanging the Town Guard, completely forgetting about the small chance of him being a Werewolf due to the second night, and when I said that, he started talking about how it's just a warning and that it shouldn't be ignored.
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11 years ago
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Okay, then, explain why Olam is worse. Judging based on behavior is completely stupid! But justifying based on behavior is even more stupid.
Judging based on behavior isn't stupid at all; if you knew how many mafia members reveal themselves through their behavior, you wouldn't say that. Even on "flood day" or "zero day" (the day for getting to know each other), many mafia members somehow manage to expose themselves. I'm not justifying based on behavior, but on observations. So, I'll repeat: in 90% of cases, the mafia doesn't rush to vote first. They don't need extra attention. It's easier to quietly distribute votes, one vote for one candidate, another vote for another, and a third vote for a neutral or completely random candidate. Well, this is just an example; if there are more mafia members, there are more options.

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If we hang the cop, we risk hanging the only role capable of dealing with the serial killer.
If that's really the role, then the serial killer could be among those who want him hanged. The serial killer isn't risking anything; it doesn't matter who gets hanged, so eliminating the biggest threat is a good thing. One problem less. If it doesn't work, then there's still information.
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11 years ago
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Regarding Mentu, I can suggest an ideal solution – send a Domovoi to him with isolation measures. This will both cure him (if anything happens) and prevent him from wandering around (if something else happens) )))
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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11 years ago
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And Yashur only started talking about Ment's execution after the second interview, which almost guarantees that he is not a Mafia member, and therefore could be a Priest. On other days, he didn't express any opinion about Ment, even though the information at that time suggested that he was more likely to be one of the bad guys than one of the good guys.
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11 years ago
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mika
I was running a poll there, with the already known result (the fact that the execution, which broke the defense, had taken place).
His vote was the last one for Revan. Usually, when they don't want to be obviously exposed, they often spread their votes, but let's say statistically, they add a large number of votes to their own. Especially since there was a defense. And that's why those who started the movement are the least suspicious, but those who finished it are more so. And there was a good vote from Yashur, and a neutral vote from 2 people.
I understand, in principle, Yashur could have done that, but it's not exactly "a good vote when everything is clear."
By the way, even if he hadn't added his vote, they probably wouldn't have immediately accused him; he often acts strangely here.
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11 years ago
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SnowmanV2
But there's an even more insane option. They robbed not a cop, but Neiru.
I also thought about that, but Shaman said that the werewolf would have killed himself in that case.:smile32:

P.S. Where is Cop?! I really want to hear him.:smile04:
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

(Закон сохранения).
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11 years ago
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So, wait, is Yashur some kind of maniac?
А, вот почему.

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11 years ago
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I was thinking the same thing, but the Shaman said that the werewolf would kill himself in that case.
Then your attack on the Investigator was definitely unclear, if you are a Town member.
For now, let's lynch Yashur

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Wait, is Yashur a maniac?
And what do you call a person who remained silent for 2 days about the Investigator as a possible Mafia member, while everyone was talking about him, and now, after it became clear that he is definitely not Mafia, suddenly voted for him?
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11 years ago
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Regarding Mentu, I can suggest an ideal solution – send a Domovoi to him with isolation measures.
Better have the Domovoi come to me. Since I'm already suspicious to some people here:mad:.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

(Закон сохранения).
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11 years ago
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The witch's apprentice showed incredible activity. First, she visited Ment.
They spent time in an interesting conversation:
- Have you often encountered dark forces in your path?
- Unfortunately, such encounters were not uncommon.
- The villagers talk a lot about you. There are more good rumors than bad ones. How can you explain this?
- I don't chase fame; it comes to me on its own.
- Are you ready to be called up to the militia if the village is attacked?
- Undoubtedly, it is my duty to protect my homeland.

This survey was transcribed by a journalist (post number 334).
Maf - yes, town - yes! There is a killing night - yes! So, if the first statement is a lie, then it's a priest, knight, or warlord. If the second statement is a lie, then it's a mafia member. A lie on the third statement is impossible because it creates a paradox: a peaceful mafia member.
"I want to know the truth deeply, to dispel the lies with the fire of illusions, tell me your truth and tell me about Ment!" she exclaimed. After her words, the smoke from the campfire thickened and formed into words:
1. Is there mental magic? No.
2. Are you peaceful? Yes.
3. Are you mafia? Yes.


A lie on the first statement would create a paradox: a peaceful mafia member, and therefore it is the truth. So, if the second statement is a lie, then it's a werewolf (from the living mafia). If the first statement is true, then there are many town roles. As a result, Ment was questioned twice, but he managed to leave suspicions about his roles. Why would a peaceful character do that?
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11 years ago
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It’s better if a house spirit comes to me. Since I’m already suspicious to some players here.
Yeah, if you’re a Serial Killer, there might be 3 other innocent roles targeting you, thanks.

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