Posts from Мафия 89. Nemesis

Menti, I wasn't addressing you there. You simply don't have the time or desire to participate, which is perfectly understandable.

Alright, come online at night, and I'll explain everything clearly to you, and to everyone else as well, about where they should direct their intuition and psychology.

So, has the pathetic bleating of sheep stopped? Will there be any proper arguments, evidence, clues, and role charts?

for this, for example.

Does anyone have any idea what the numbers from the clue about the elf might mean?

Heroist, come on. I've been having all sorts of issues with time lately, but I'm trying to make sure it doesn't affect things too much overall. What I wanted to say is that your post perfectly reflects the Mafia's position on the situation. Especially the last sentence:

The risk of supporting a strong Town member based on the instructions of a Mafia member is too great, and only someone who doesn't understand the game would support it.

It's a typical attempt to intimidate by portraying one of the opposing teams in a bad light. Although, I can't say that you're completely insincere in what you're saying. You probably think it's wrong that the town has decided to trust a Mafia member instead of thinking for themselves. I understand you, that's reasonable. And yes, it would be good to find evidence against Ilanna, I agree. But all of this, especially when presented in such a categorical way, is the Mafia's position, I'm sorry, but it's obvious. From this, I conclude that Gekasan is indeed Mafia, as expected. And for me, it's better to execute a 100% Mafia member than to create even more connections and evidence (although one doesn't preclude the other, of course).

Do I really need to explain why they don't apologize for this, or will you figure it out yourself?

There are about 12,543 numbers there, right?

yes, “von Bruna 12543”

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it’s too long for a date, I thought maybe it’s part of an IQ number, but I didn’t find any matches either.

I think this is an address. Or something like that.

Do you need me to explain why they won't apologize for this, or will you figure it out yourself?

Do I need to explain where you'll be sent the next time you demand an apology for someone "insulting" your favorite game, or will you figure it out yourself?

The clue could be a name, for example, von Bruna Abedc, or http://www.vonbruno.com/ or http://keddr.com/tag/vonbruno/, but more likely http://www.greatdane.ru/rus/dogs/3813/. There are too many options, so we could guess for a long time, but to avoid wasting time, I suggest we hang the snowman – that way, we won't make a mistake.

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It's a shame that, in addition to the mind-boggling hints, the GM doesn't send the results of the Night Deeds (ND) in a private message (i.e., those whose ND is displayed in the newspaper see whether it was successful or not; those whose ND is not displayed don't even see that). For example, Mixin will heal someone and see in the morning that the person he healed died; he will only have to guess whether they were blocked, redirected, or whether it was an incurable murder). And people can't write notes in the newspaper to share the results of their nightly observations, so they have to come up with ways to convince others that the person they want to hang is a Mafia member and avoid a harsh modkill

Oven, stop trying to manipulate everyone with emotions and provide some actual arguments. There are adults here, and they believe in facts more than in authoritative outbursts like "he's the mafia because I said so." Provide clear arguments why he should be eliminated and not you, for example. If you're suggesting eliminating him because of a single slip-up, you should eliminate yourself first, as you've made plenty of slip-ups throughout the game.

Shaman: Here's a clear argument for you: right now, there are 11 of us, including 4 Mafia, 1 Troll, and 6 Townspeople. If we hang the Troll tonight, we lose one Townsperson, and in the morning, there will be 4 Mafia against 5 Townspeople. The Mafia has a night action – stealing a vote. As a result, the next day, we won't be able to hang a Mafia member, even if we all agree. Then, the Townspeople will be eliminated one by one, and we'll lose. Instead, let's hang a Townsperson tonight. We lose one Townsperson and one Mafia member. In the morning, we'll have 4 of us against 3. Our chances remain. If we hang a Mafia member, we have a chance of winning. Snowman is Mafia, not because of any slip-ups, but primarily because, as soon as the interrogation results made it clear that Yashchur is either a Troll or a Townsperson (Mafia is 100% ruled out), he continuously demands that Yashchur be hanged, telling horror stories about what awaits the Townspeople if they ally with a Troll. I don't believe he's that stupid; therefore, this is a malicious intent. Consequently, Snowman = Mafia, 100%! Notice, I'm not stating with the same certainty that the Mafia are you or Heroist (although his behavior is very similar to a familiar player who, when playing as Mafia, also liked to troll everyone to distract from the game) or Hex. But I am certain that Snowman is Mafia. If you ignore this argument now, it means you are Mafia

Threatening me with mafioso tactics is pointless; I acknowledge your argument, but I have a counter-argument. First, Gabriel still has the strength to defend, as he hasn't defended anyone yet – this is evident from the newspaper, but he was attacked. Second, there's still a living stone man who can also defend, playing a valuable role, even at the cost of his life. Third, if you examine the newspaper carefully, we may have triggered as many as 2 ultimates. The first ultimate was from Argath, which is why there isn't a single Necropolis unit left because all targets were hit. Incidentally, the literary description also suggests this. The second ultimate was from the Troll because he attacked before the mafioso used Argath's ultimate. Now, the Troll is unable to kill Argath because he no longer has his ultimate, which means all he can do is attack the town. The mafioso can now redirect him because they go first.

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2. Argath's widespread chaos (displayed).

I agree that Snowman is very similar to a Mafia member, Owen. But Yashur has information, and there's no reason not to believe him. Unless the question is phrased differently: instead of "Let's execute the Mafia member!", it's phrased as "Let's execute a specific Mafia role, namely #%!", then yes. Then it makes sense to try to execute someone other than Hec-Darin. But that would be a bit of a blind guess.

What makes my behavior "mafioso"? Is it because I don't go along with the troll? It seems very amusing to me; the troll has become the leader of some group of people.

Gabriel and Chelokamenn need to know who they will be attacking. They won't save the city. Why are you so sure that the troll used its special ability? It would have killed the dwarf then.

The Dwarf is immune to the first attack. And UD allowed the troll to attack before the mages.

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Feature: Dwarven armor. Survives the first attack of any kind.