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#169
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Hold on. Why are Reason and Chaos incompatible? In fact, Chaos is structured quite logically; there are no deviations, everything proceeds as it should. And perhaps God is that primordial Chaos from which the world is created?
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Alexey (sorry, of course), but what if people actually evolved from elephants? And all this time, humanity has been developing without knowing the truth, which we have now "discovered" by pulling it out of thin air?:D
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Who knows, who knows. Maybe that’s exactly how it was. The world is incomprehensible, just like its creators.
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Alexey (no offense), but what if people actually evolved from elephants? And all this time, humanity has been developing without knowing the truth that we have now discovered, making it up as we go along?:D

From a biological point of view, this is impossible :D
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From a biological point of view, this is impossible :D
How do you know?:D Maybe there was never any evolution, and elephants actually evolved from cats! And all the dinosaur skeletons are just aliens messing with us to confuse us even more!:smile14: :smile44:
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Harbinger, what do you mean by the phrase "Do you believe in a god?" I have some questions:
1) Which god?
2) What is a god? What meaning was originally put into this concept?
3) And what does it have to do with whether one prays or not?
The catch with the question is that for every person, this phrase can mean different things. For me, for example, it is completely absurd. So by logic, it seems as though I don't believe. But I cannot believe in something that doesn't exist. Obviously, there is a force (energy or god, as you call it) that created the universe, and there is a force that created that which created our world, but I don't think it can be called a god since "god" is a purely religious concept and every nation and every person in particular has their own, and the concept of "god" performs certain specific functions different from what ignorant people attribute to it.
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Do you believe in God, as the Herald suggests? I think we need to understand this broadly, and consider the questions of which god and what constitutes a god. I think that God, as a religious concept, becomes a personification of people's thoughts or a more personified force. That is, God cannot be pure energy.

We can continue our discussion later if you don't mind. For now, briefly - okay, I didn't quite explain the concept of "bright sadness" correctly, and you didn't quite understand it, but I can't explain it in more detail. But that doesn't negate the concept of trials, which, when passed, bring pleasure (in this case, the pleasure of being with a loved one).
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Dedicated to Berserker, Harbinger, and, of course, Ta_Kotoraya.
There is no God!!! I believe it!!))) Do you believe that He exists? Fine, it's your right. And I also believe that Valencia will win the Champions League this year. And you think that Milan will win?? Oh...what should we do? How should we be? Perhaps we'll have to start a war. Although...regarding the Champions League, I suggest we wait until May (or maybe even earlier) and see who is right. But regarding God...we can't avoid bloodshed here)))!! I suggest reviving the Holy Inquisition and starting to hang heretics (or, if we want to be childish, we'll just kill "reps")))!!!
I have a question: do you believe in God conditionally (like: the situation is such that it's better to be a believer now, and if something changes, you can renounce your words) or are you truly believers? Don't rush to answer, because some of you (he admitted it himself) have definitely broken at least one commandment. In this regard, another question: "What is better, to believe in God and constantly break His commandments, hoping that God will forgive everything, or not to believe in God and also break the commandments (who is easier to forgive: an unreasonable child who broke a window or an adult, educated man who broke a window?)?
I have an acquaintance who has a friend who is a priest. Once, I asked him: "Tell me, does he (the priest) really not allow himself anything in life?" And he replied: "He does. We've had drinks together more than once, he swears, and they even brought girls to him."
I served with another person (he is now studying at a theological seminary) who was a believer. He was even allowed to leave the unit to meet with Alexy II when he came to our city. And what? Do you think that this believer didn't swear and didn't set up his comrades?? Not at all!! I, a person who doesn't believe in God, behaved much more honestly and fairly (modesty prevents me from saying "was the most honest and fair")), than he did!! In general, in my deep conviction, it is precisely in the army (not in the church!!) that a person's true face is revealed.
Of course, two people are not the whole church, but still.
ДУРАКОВ ОЧЕНЬ МАЛО, НО ОНИ РАССТАВЛЕНЫ ТАК ГРАМОТНО, ЧТО ВСТРЕЧАЮТСЯ НА КАЖДОМ ШАГУ.
Прошу прощения у Arandor-а. Я слишком резко отреагировал. Просто очень люблю спорт. Извини...[/SIZE]
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Andrey seems to think that God and the church are two different things.
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A church is God's house. If a priest uses foul language, it's on his conscience, but during services, even laypeople who swear will stop and pray. We have two priests at the church of St. Maron who never swear, even when in the company of electricians and plumbers (which has happened), but they gladly play football and even drink beer sometimes (in moderation, of course). By the way, Andrey, how old were these priests?

P.S. If you think that "pop" is an offensive term for a priest, you are deeply mistaken. The word "pop" stands for "Shepherd of Orthodox Sheep." That's what it means.
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The church is God's house. If a priest uses foul language, it's on his conscience, but during the service, even laypeople who swear will stop and pray. We have two priests at the Church of St. Maron who never swear, even when in the company of electricians and plumbers (which has happened), but they happily play football and even drink beer sometimes (in moderation, of course). By the way, Andrey, how old were these priests?

P.S. If you think that "pop" is an offensive term for a priest, you are deeply mistaken. The word "pop" stands for "Shepherd of Orthodox Sheep." That's what it means.
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ДУРАКОВ ОЧЕНЬ МАЛО, НО ОНИ РАССТАВЛЕНЫ ТАК ГРАМОТНО, ЧТО ВСТРЕЧАЮТСЯ НА КАЖДОМ ШАГУ.
Прошу прощения у Arandor-а. Я слишком резко отреагировал. Просто очень люблю спорт. Извини...[/SIZE]
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))If one served in the army, then he's young. The second one isn't old either.
That's pretty much what I expected. Older priests are always more cultured. And not just priests. I once had the honor of meeting a monk who was a veteran of the Afghan war. He didn't swear, of course, but "damn" and "fuck" were definitely part of his vocabulary;). It's just an age thing.
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And if that's the case, without any embellishments or formalities: if a servant of God violates His commandments, then it means he either doesn't believe or doesn't attach enough importance to this faith. Does God suffer from this? Of course not. Does the servant suffer from this? Yes, to the extent that his conscience allows. Does the church suffer from this? Yes, and moreover - it simply collapses, because the church is primarily its servants, the shepherds of the flock. If the shepherd doesn't tend to the flock, the sheep slowly drift away from him. I have heard so many excuses from church servants in my life that the church itself has become invisible behind these excuses. There is a lot of hypocrisy, showmanship, and business in the church. Inevitably, the question arises, as Zhvanetsky put it: "Maybe something needs to be adjusted in the conservatory?"
Настоящие герои - не те, пред кем мы преклоняемся, а те, кого мы оплевываем...[/COLOR]
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