Problems with Heroes of Might and Magic IV. — General

Пандора

19 years ago

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Patching is definitely an option. But how? Is it possible to patch a non-licensed copy of "Excalibur" at all... And with what?

POOH

19 years ago

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We all know that Heroes 4 was a major failure for 3DO. Let's discuss what could have made Heroes 4 better and saved 3DO from collapse?

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I believe the blame doesn't lie with 3DO. They wanted to add something new and remove the old. You can't improve units, there are far fewer possibilities, and I didn't see a good engine as such; the plot is boring. But overall, the game isn't bad if you remove these minor flaws.

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Sage

19 years ago

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I wouldn't say that the fourth installment was a failure for 3DO.

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.

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POOH

19 years ago

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Sage;69776

I wouldn't say that Heroes 4 was the reason 3DO went bankrupt.

Everyone says that Heroes 4 caused 3DO to go bankrupt and fail!

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OptiMAL

19 years ago

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All the pros and cons are described in the topics above.

:D

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Magnus

19 years ago

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POOH;69769

We all know that Heroes 4 was a major failure for 3DO. Let's discuss what could have made Heroes 4 better and saved 3DO from collapse?

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I think the blame doesn't lie with 3DO. They wanted to add something new and remove the old. You can't improve units, there are far fewer possibilities, and I didn't see a good engine as such, the plot is boring. But overall, the game isn't bad if you remove these minor flaws.

Well, firstly, the developer is NWC, and 3DO is the publisher, and 3DO bought the rights to Heroes in 1996. The company's problems started even before Heroes 4, and Heroes 4 was an attempt to recoup the money, as was Might and Magic 9, but nothing worked out. So, it wasn't because of Heroes 4 that the publishing company went bankrupt.

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Vihja Drow

19 years ago

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The drawbacks have been correctly noted. However, it is also worth remembering the advantages, such as the excellent hero development system, the flexible and easily customizable quest system, and the landscapes, which are quite decent compared to the third game...
Don't rush to call the game a failure; many people enjoy it.

Я вернулась... :smile24:
Ну что, не ждали? :smile08:
Пусть за нас говорит сталь! :smile13:

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Saruman

19 years ago

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Heroes 4 has many advantages, BUT: it has a terrible design (only Heroes 5 surpasses it with its nightstands-gargoyles and smoking skeleton-archers), a reduced number of units, a reduced number of factions, a worse city development system, and a completely new plot instead of continuing the already beloved one. Besides, a sequel should always be better. Heroes 3 was a breakthrough, Heroes 4 was slightly above average. That's why many fans of the Elder Scrolls series don't really like Oblivion; Daggerfall was a breakthrough, Morrowind maintained the brand to some extent, but Oblivion simply became another good RPG.

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Vlad

19 years ago

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The topic "Heroes 4 as the downfall of 3DO!" has been merged with "Problems of the fourth game..." because they are essentially the same!

С уважением, Vlad

HeroesWorld: В контакте
http://vk.com/heroesworld

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Magnus

19 years ago

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Laura Vita;69810

The drawbacks you mentioned are accurate. However, it's also important to remember the strengths, such as the excellent hero development system, the flexible and easily customizable quest system, and the landscapes, which are quite decent compared to the third installment...
Don't rush to call the game a failure; many people enjoy it.

I agree; the game could have been good if NWC had been given the time to create it. But with creditors and bankruptcy looming, NWC tried to save the series. They released expansions and, without salaries, worked on Heroes 5, but everything collapsed and was bought out by Ubi. Later, Kennegem apologized to the fans for releasing games like Chronicles of Heroes and Heroes 4; they simply needed to save the company.

Zdob

19 years ago

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Maybe after my answer, I will be persecuted by all forum members, but I will say my opinion! Heroes of Might and Magic IV is the BEST!

Most people started with the third part, and that's why the innovations in the fourth part didn't appeal to them! Well, I don't mind other people's opinions!
But there's no need to express negativity directly, pointing out the differences between the third and fourth parts!!! This transition is a Revolution (with a capital "R" :cool: )
And somehow, the differences are judged as drawbacks! Now, remember which Heroes game you played for the first time!
Okay! Who did I offend? Write! :cool:

HMM4 The Gathering Storm : BEST!:cool:

Budda

19 years ago

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The only problem with the fourth installment is that it differs from the other games in the series.

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Arandor

19 years ago

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the graphics are a problem... they all look bad. Especially the human warriors...
and the elves are wearing rags, the wolves look like dogs, and many other things.

Пандора

19 years ago

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I completely disagree with the criticism regarding the challenging design (Saruman) and the graphics issues (Arandor). In my opinion (and I'm not alone in this), it's all just a great departure from the third installment. That's where the problems lie. The fourth game, on the other hand, is a breakthrough in this regard, a process of improvement, if you will.

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Magnus

19 years ago

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Arandor;72785

the graphics are an issue... everything looks kind of bad. Especially the human warriors...
Elves are in rags, wolves look like dogs, and much more.

The graphics are fine; at least the djinns have heads, and the elementals are drawn better than in the fifth game. And besides, the graphics were beautiful back then, not cartoonish like now. The death knights weren't in red armor, and although there were some inaccuracies, for example, the depiction of a druid as an African shaman, there weren't mages on elephants, and they weren't smoking hookahs. Of course, it's a pity that many people didn't appreciate the game, wanting to see a copy of Heroes 3.

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