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Offline Zdob
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Only the Barbarian has the "Throw" skill! And that's great! :D You can throw hats at the enemy! :D But again, a mage is no match for a barbarian in a one-on-one fight! :D :cool:
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Ladies and gentlemen, don't forget: the Barbarian has one and a half to two times more troops:smile17: :smile14: :smile47:

We haven't forgotten!
But the income is the same (as with everyone else).
Let's draw conclusions!!!
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And what about the price? It's incredibly cheap! :D So, let's draw conclusions! :D :cool:
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Let's draw some conclusions. There's a hidden paradox here. A Barbarian is an individualist; he can't help his army because he fights alongside them. Therefore, an army can only defend itself, albeit poorly, through its numbers. This explains the increase and the cost.
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But again, a mage isn't a match for a barbarian in a one-on-one fight! :D :cool:
Okay, let's take a well-developed druid. And what do we see?
First turn.
Druid. Summons phoenixes,
Barbarian kills the druid or deals damage.
Phoenixes destroy the barbarian.
Conclusion: barbarians aren't as strong as mages, and against a large number of barbarian troops, the druid can summon even more, and considering that this doesn't require spending money, plus there are troops from daily troop summoning, and barbarians don't have that.
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Alright, let's take a well-leveled druid. And what do we see?
First turn.
Druid. Summons phoenixes,
Barbarian kills the druid or deals damage
Phoenixes destroy the barbarian
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1) Well, the first turn is still to be seen, and it seems to me the DRUID will go down on the first turn! :D
2) Okay, fine, he summoned phoenixes! :)
3) Barbarian kills the druid or deals damage (or just puts out the phoenixes, and one, maybe two at most, rose up! :D )
4) Phoenixes destroy the barbarian... ??? :confused:
You need a lot of phoenixes, not just one or two! :D
And it's not even certain that the phoenixes will actually reach the barbarian in one turn! :D
So ... THE BARBARIAN tore the DRUID apart!!! :D

And what stops the barbarian from leveling up Tactics, for goodness sake, so the army is actually useful?! :D :cool:
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1) Well, the first turn will show, and it seems like the Druid will fall on the first turn! :D
2) Okay, he summoned Phoenixes! :)
3) The Barbarian kills the Druid or deals damage (or just puts out the Phoenixes, and at most one or two will rise! :D )
4) The Phoenixes destroy the Barbarian... ??? :confused:
You need a lot of Phoenixes, not just one or two! :D
And it's not a fact that the Phoenixes will even reach the Barbarian in one turn! :D
So... the BARBARIAN tore the DRUID apart!!! :D

And what prevents the Barbarian from eventually leveling up tactics so that the army is useful?! :D :cool:
First of all, tactics don't matter, because we are comparing a one-on-one fight between a Barbarian and a Druid, and if the Phoenixes are destroyed, then 2 will be resurrected, and another 6 will be summoned = 8, and then they will reach that Barbarian and destroy him in melee combat, and if you choose a Demonologist, then 12 devils will reach, kill, and if anything, summon ice demons.
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One thing is certain: the Druid has many different chances to defeat the Barbarian. The Barbarian can only respond by either shooting an arrow or trying to get close on foot... and kicking him with his leg :) And that's it!
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First of all, tactics don't matter here, because we're comparing a one-on-one fight between a Barbarian and a Druid. If the Phoenixes are destroyed, 2 will be resurrected, and another 6 will be summoned, making a total of 8. They will then fly over to the Barbarian and destroy him in melee combat. And if you choose a Demonologist, 12 Devils will fly over, kill him, and if necessary, summon Ice Devils.

The point is that Pandora was talking about the Barbarian being useless for an army! :D
And as for the Phoenixes, I always carry Spider Web Arrows, and there are almost always a decent amount of them on the map! :D
And again, when it says that you'll summon another 6, do you really think the DRUID will still be alive at that point? :D :D :D
Don't forget about the Barbarian's defense and first strike! Phoenixes :D
will only fly over, and 2-3 more will already be down (at least)! :D You try setting up such a PvP battle, but not with a 5th-level Barbarian and clumsy hands! :D
You yourself said that we're only taking a BARBARIAN and a DRUID, and now you're bringing in a Demonologist!!! :D So, Barbarians are powerful, and that's all there is to it! :D :cool:

And as for what Pandora said about kicking :D, even the Blackguards die from that "kick"! :D :cool:
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The tactic here is that Pandora was talking about how useless the Barbarian is for an army! :D
And regarding Phoenixes, I carry Spiderweb Arrows with me, and there are almost always a decent amount of them on the map! :D
And again, if it says you can summon 6 more, do you really think the Druid will still be alive at that point? :D :D :D
Also, don't forget about the Barbarian's defense and first strike; the Phoenixes :D
will barely make it before 2-3 of them are already down (at least)! :D You try setting up something like that in a PvP match, but not against a level 5 Barbarian with clumsy hands! :D
You yourself said that we're only taking a Barbarian and a Druid, but then you brought a Demonologist into it!!! :D So, Barbarians are powerful, just like I said! :D :cool:

And about what Pandora said about kicking: D, even the Blackguards die from that "kick"! :D :cool:
Everything seems correct, but there's a feeling of each person supporting their own side. If we consider a one-on-one fight, the Barbarian has a better chance, but it's not a certainty (we need to know which Barbarian and which Druid?).
And if it's with an army, the Barbarian has ALMOST no chance (it depends on which armies and which heroes?).
Regarding tactics: if the Barbarian upgrades their tactics, the Druid can upgrade their combat skills, and they will be not much weaker than the Barbarian (+ they are a spellcaster).
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Magic resistance is just one aspect of a hero's defense. Barbarians are not weak heroes. I won't argue with that. But their development is too monotonous. The hero is always the same. Although I really appreciate ranged combat. It's always a good idea for barbarians to acquire a good bow...
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Offline Lord Vampire
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The strongest is definitely the Necropolis! Death Knights and Vampires do their job, and Sacrifice is just Super! Although Nature isn't bad either; there's a great choice of units since they have the portal, plus Dragon Power! Chaos isn same behind with its Black Dragons, and as for spells, Cat's Reflexes is simply lovely! Order has weak defense, but if you build mages and genies plus halflings and then Titans, the entire attack will be from a distance! Plus Hypnosis makes it a pretty good combination, but while titans can somehow hold their own in melee, genies and especially mages are complete zeros at that.
Life has crusaders and angels, and decent spells too, and the Stronghold is also not bad if you develop a Might hero to the maximum—he'll turn into a killing machine! And their birds aren't bad, while Cyclops are some of the strongest level 3 creatures! There are many Castles and they are all good, but Death is my favorite!:cool:
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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Haven (if there is a hypnosis or berserk spell, and a cloak that removes immunity to magic, then it's game over for everyone) =)
Sylvan
Necropolis
Chaos, Life
Barbarian because they are very vulnerable to magic =)
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Haven (if there's a hypnosis or berserk spell, and a cloak that removes immunity to magic, then it's game over for everyone) =)
Sylvan
Necropolis
Dungeon, Life
Barbarian because they struggle a lot against magic =)
But the strength of the Barbarians lies in their numbers, and they have always had about one and a half times more units than the other factions.
Necropolis is the best - a Bone Dragon with vampirism - that's real power.:D
ФЛУДОВСКИЕ ССЫЛКИ - конец бесполезным темам
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if it makes it there :D
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