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I find it amusing when people see a conspiracy by the USA, NATO, Europe, Jews, gays, reptilians, etc., in everything and everywhere.
Ah, Stomper! Leave the reptilians alone: they have plenty of problems on Nibiru! :D And I find it amusing when people, even after the recent "color revolutions" that happened almost simultaneously and according to the same scenario, pretend not to see it! Well, tell us, you poor souls, why these "popular revolutions" actually happened? ;) I've always wanted to know!
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An INFORMATION WAR is underway. For people's minds.
By the way, yes! I suggested a few years ago that in the future, all wars will be purely informational: without weapons, blood, victims, and destruction. But, unfortunately, that future is still somewhere far away. :(
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було… (Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
An INFORMATION WAR is underway. A battle for people's minds. But armchair pundits are the best at it. The very best. And in everything.
Dude, armchair pundits are the ones fighting in the information war.
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The effect of information warfare is close to zero. We don't live on Sarax. There are too many sources of information, and they are readily available, giving people plenty to choose from. And in the case of an abundance of information, a defensive reflex kicks in; people with more than one brain cell start to protect themselves from intrusive propaganda and treat it critically.
Dude, armchair critics are the warriors in information warfare.
So, you're a "warrior" then? :D
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Yes, it seems the information war has ended, and now dozens of people are dying. It was clear from the beginning that we were in a difficult situation, and the question is how deep we will go. I hope a solution will be found as quickly as possible, because we could destroy something that would take 10-20 years to rebuild. The government is completely ineffective, and the opposition does not control the situation (and it is impossible to foresee everything, and things will never go exactly as planned or "seem" to). This is my subjective view as of February 20, 2014.
I'm curious, those who support the Maidan, why aren't you there right now? Why are you only writing on the forum, providing SOMEONE ELSE's links and photos taken by SOMEONE ELSE? Go there, spend a day or two, take your OWN photos, TALK to those who are there now, and then write something like "2 days at the Maidan," include stories and photos taken by yourself, and then people will listen to you more attentively.
Because it's not about moving sacks. That's the answer you were waiting for.
Putting in so much effort to prove to someone on the internet that they are wrong is even more childish than the juvenile writing about respawns and farming.
I'm curious, those who support the Maidan, why aren't you there right now? Why are you only writing on the forum, providing SOMEONE's links and photos taken by SOMEONE? Go there, spend a day or two, take your OWN photos, TALK to those who are there now, and then write something like "2 days at the Maidan," include stories and photos taken by yourself, and then people will listen to you more attentively.
Romantic, you're 31, are you coming out to defend the constitution?
Or are you like Vis, a fervent admirer of bloody dictatorial regimes?
The effect of information warfare is close to zero.
Such naivety (c) Roger DAltavilla
After all, we don't live on Sarax. There are too many sources of information, and they are accessible; there is plenty to choose from.
This is part of the problem: there is so much information, of all kinds, and it is difficult for the average person to make sense of it. There is a lot of information and disinformation, which leads to manipulation and influence on people.Roger DAltavilla
And in the case of an abundance of information, a defensive reflex kicks in; people with more than one brain cell begin to protect themselves from annoying propaganda and treat it critically.
Of course, after choosing "their position," a person will not watch/listen to (believe, except for the obvious) for example, Channel 5, but will listen to Crimean and Russian news, because that is where all the truth is, and here it is all just "crap for idiots." Accordingly, the opposite is also true.
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Naturally, after choosing "their side," people will no longer watch/listen to (believe, except for the obvious) something like Channel 5, but will listen to Crimean and Russian news, because that's where all the truth is, and everything else is just garbage "for idiots." Accordingly, the opposite is also true.
These arguments are based on the axiom that people are uncultured and can be easily persuaded to believe any idea. This is fundamentally wrong; humans differ from animals in their intelligence. Critical thinking is essential for survival.
Especially naive are the claims that revolutions are imported and carried out according to a pre-planned scenario. This is as absurd as claiming that someone is controlling a volcanic eruption. A revolution is a natural disaster. A revolutionary situation develops over years, based on people's dissatisfaction with the situation in the country. When dissatisfaction becomes critical, all it takes is a spark to ignite everything. And it doesn't matter who provides that spark: NATO, the State Department, Russia, the EU, it doesn't matter! After that, the process becomes uncontrollable. It's like trying to ride a tsunami wave; no one knows where it will lead.
One can only rebuild the country after the natural disaster. This process is what requires management and a well-thought-out plan.
Because it's not about moving sacks. This is the answer you were waiting for.
Putting so much effort into proving to someone on the internet that they are wrong is even more childish than writing juvenile nonsense about respawns and resource gathering.
Is this an attempt to assert yourself? Please assert yourself with your peers. Yes, and putting dislikes in the database is very mature.
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A revolutionary situation matures over years, based on people's dissatisfaction with the situation in the country. When dissatisfaction becomes critical, all it takes is to light a match, and everything will ignite.
That's right, but dissatisfaction can be artificially amplified, which has been observed in our case for more than 10 years. Personally, I haven't noticed much difference between those rulers and these. And I don't think things have gotten so bad that people should kill each other.
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:
Зима 2011-12.
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Why a conspiracy? It's just ordinary foreign policy activity.
Okay, okay, I'm talking about funding the Maidan. Are they chipping in for stones and tires?
Marmot, I didn't mention color revolutions. However, I don't think it's normal when the population of a country, when voting, for example, for a president, subconsciously chooses a king who will sit on the throne for a long time, and not a civil servant who can be removed at any time if he proves to be incompetent.
These arguments are based on the axiom that people are a bunch of ignoramuses to whom any idea can be sold.
Lol. What does "ignoramus" have to do with it? Do you really think you're so special that nothing can be imposed on you or used to control you? The secret is that you are already being used, whether you like it or not. The most impressionable, active, and patriotic people, those with some kind of personal interest, are already at the Maidan; these are the ones who are fighting for the idea. Let's put them in the first category.
The second category, also impressionable but negative, consists of people who have an exclusively "personal opinion" about what is happening, along with their inflated ego, which allows them to think this way. They have "their own opinion" on everything, endlessly arguing on the internet, with colleagues at work, at home (if there are any who disagree). These are armchair analysts and expert debaters. Some of the most daring of them sometimes end up in the first category ^^.
The third category. According to your words, these are "people with more than one brain cell, who begin to protect themselves from intrusive propaganda." But, on the contrary, they don't protect themselves from information; they try to figure out what's going on and where the wind is blowing. Who benefits from this? Why? And so on. They don't shout on forums, they don't agitate; instead, they analyze this information and what is happening.
The fourth category. These are the people who don't care. Maybe not entirely, but as long as "my house is on the edge and it doesn't affect me," then it doesn't affect me.
I can say that there are very few people in the fifth category, those to whom it is completely irrelevant. Really, not just for show.
We won't consider bots and trolls. Of course, this is just a rough estimate, as many mixed subspecies can be identified. Roger DAltavilla
This is fundamentally wrong; humans differ from animals by their intelligence.
Of course, there is intelligence, psyche, perception of information, and its processing. And since you don't live in a cave, you receive information of various kinds. Both "for" and "against" the Maidan. Roughly speaking, in a microcosm, this is live communication, when you hear the opinions of friends, acquaintances, and family, and in a macrocosm, this is the media. And will you deny that this has absolutely no influence on you? And that it doesn't shape your opinion? Or should you not be so naive, dishonest with yourself, or blind?
You say that people are dissatisfied with this and that, and that it has been brewing for years, and that's true. We don't live in a great world. All that needs to be done is to stir up the people. Which has already been done. And now it's gone too far; "beat the Jews, save Russia," "spontaneously," as it happens.
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Also, people often fail to see the difference between a coup d'état and a revolution. In the first case, it is indeed possible to replace the ruling elite with money from sponsors, but this does not affect the internal situation of the country in any way. In the second case, not only the government changes, but also the very form of government and the internal structure of the country. Now, Ukraine is completely different from what it was 3 months ago.
I believe that Ukraine can be an independent, self-sufficient, and prosperous country. And it does not need to be under Russia or Europe. But by cooperating with other countries, it can become part of the global community without changing its traditions.
At least, there have been no reports in the media about looting in shopping centers or riots. That is, the events in Ukraine do not resemble the events in Bishkek in 2005 and 2010.
Is this an attempt to assert yourself? Please, assert yourself with your peers. And giving negative ratings in the database is very mature.
Giving negative ratings is just as courageous and mature as giving positive ratings. But the fact that my negative rating bothered you so much that you wrote about it in this thread is telling.
Не бійся коли ти один, бійся коли ти нуль.
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Medvedev was right: Yanukovych is a weakling, a spineless jerk. It’s impossible to constantly try to please both “ours” and “yours.” His hesitation has already led to casualties. If he doesn’t want to be the West’s second Gaddafi or Lukashenko, he should surrender to the revolutionaries. There is no other option; you can’t negotiate anything with the likes of Klitschko and others because they can’t control anything.
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