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Or maybe Fishy isn't Fishy at all? They should be banned. Kappa
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A new record has been set (I already wrote about the previous one):

The largest battle in the history of EVE Online
On January 27-28, 2014, the largest battle in the ten-year history of this game took place in EVE Online. The main battle involved 5283 ships. The total value of the destroyed property is estimated at 8 trillion ISK, which is approximately $200,000 at the current exchange rate. 72 "titans" were destroyed – these are the most massive ships, and the most expensive of them, the Erebus, cost 222 billion ISK ($5500).
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
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A new record has been set.

5 million players online in League of Legends – that’s a record!
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Не любят многие порнуху, а я... А я люблю порнуху! © А.С. Пушкин
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3vGFeVTB6s&feature=share

A very amusing video about how journalists from Kyiv invited a colleague from Moscow to the studio. They couldn't win by shouting over each other, and the arguments and constructive dialogue resulted in a complete defeat, so much so that some couldn't handle it and left the studio. Overall, it was enjoyable, and I don't regret spending almost 2 hours watching it.

And the position of the guy who was initially sitting on the left is very telling. When asked, "about half of the people don't share your views – what should be done with them?" he answered simply brilliantly, something along the lines of "work with them" or "re-educate them." And this position is common among many Maidan supporters – an inability to understand that this situation can be viewed differently than they do. And they don't care that there is a segment of the population with an established worldview who don't want to be re-educated. Plus, an inability to think ahead, and as a result, we have very good chances of a civil war with unclear prospects.

So go ahead and keep telling us how great things are on your barricades. It's paradise on earth, if you believe the pictures and captions.
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

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Let's go!))

...To the question – "about half of the people don't share your views – what should be done with them?" – he answered brilliantly, something like "work with them" or "re-educate them." And this is the position of most Maidan supporters – an inability to understand that this situation can be viewed differently than they do. And they don't care that there is a segment of the population with an established worldview that doesn't want to be re-educated. Plus, an inability to think ahead, and as a result, we have very good chances of a civil war, with unclear prospects.

Oh, what kind of war? What will you and your group take up arms to defend? The fate of this half (imaginary), as I have already written and will not tire of repeating, is to eat popcorn and talk.

I came across this on VKontakte: This is approximately how a modern person is evolving now.

Thoughts about "inability" inspired me to think about who is at what stage
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But where is the answer to the question? What should be done with this half?
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People only talk about this half, but no one can actually demonstrate it. Rebel used the term "undecided" here – that's exactly what I would call them, and that's all that needs to be done with them. A tactic like "anything goes" doesn't bring about any creation or destruction. Well, they exist, and that's it; they won't hinder, and they won't help. So, just ignore them and that's it.
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Thoughts about "incompetence" prompted me to consider who is at what stage.
Cool picture))

This is my last post on this topic. I'll try to be brief.
1. The assertion that this government is worse than the previous one. I wonder why? Wasn't there bureaucracy before? Weren't there bribes? Wasn't there judicial lawlessness? Wasn't there large-scale theft? I'm too lazy to continue. So far, the only convincing argument is the suppression of business. I understand your position, Petya, because it affects you personally, but has the rest of the population's life become so terrible that they are ready to kill each other? By the way, a question - does anyone know the approximate statistics of what percentage of business representatives were at the Maidan?

2. This other, dissenting half does exist. A personal example - among the people I know, the vast majority do not support what is happening now.

3. What will happen when the bright moment of life comes, and the gang leaves? Let me give you a hint - there are currently 4 options.
A boxer, a fascist, someone unclear, and her. Which of these appeals to you the most?
a) A fascist? - I highly doubt it, you are from another region and you are unlikely to shout "glory to the heroes," because I suspect that your grandfathers experienced fascism.
b) A boxer? That's not funny. In order to govern one of the largest countries in Europe, you need to know how it's done. His knowledge and skills are in a slightly different area.
c) A Jew? Well, I don't know.
d) Yulia? In my opinion, she is an even greater evil than what we have now. And in terms of stealing and lying, she can outdo everyone else combined. AND THERE ARE NO OTHER OPTIONS YET!! Is this what you are fighting for? You clearly don't believe in it, but in reality, you are.

4. Is there reason to believe that after the victory of democracy, everything will be different?

5. I know what a civil war is from the words of an acquaintance from Serbia, who had the misfortune to live in Kosovo at that time. These are interesting stories. If you think that this will not happen to us, then continue to think so.

Those who disagree, please answer the questions with a "?" at the end. It is desirable to think before answering.

That's all. I'm leaving, peace to all.

P.S. In point 3, you must choose one of the options :)

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Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

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Roma, you're stirring up trouble again, even though things have calmed down somewhat. Everyone with a sound mind understands that there won't be any miracles, but there's a growing need for a reset, which is what we're seeing. Regarding the previous government: Yushchenko was my idol since 1998, when he became president. I was happy, but later I sadly watched as he was undermined and eventually fell. He was a truly worthy person, but he came along 20 years too early. The Regions Party did everything, and even more, to discredit him, worsen the economic situation in the country by any means (I'm telling you right away, there are examples, so please don't start spitting accusations), and usurp power. And Yanukovych got his revenge; he came to power by harming the country and blaming the previous government for it, and he managed to convince the people of this. I'm not defending or justifying anyone; I'm just stating facts. And it's not like he came to power and started fixing things; on the contrary, when the national wealth ran out, business interests took over. What happens next? I just don't understand how anyone can claim that everything is "great" without understanding what's really happening in the flow of money and capital. As for me, personally, no one has harmed me, but I'm not going to sit around and wait for my turn to be affected. There won't be a war, rest assured. Roma, it's ridiculous to compare us to the Yugoslav conflict; that's just nonsense. Not long ago, you and Vik were confidently asserting that "the stupid masses will sit tight and eventually disperse," but now Vik is writing that this Maidan is far from the last, and you're saying there will be a war. Well, there's another fitting Ukrainian proverb about a guy who "becomes rich through his thoughts"; let's not be like him. Thank you.
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People only talk about this half, but no one can actually show it. Rebel used the term "undecided" here – that's exactly what I would call them, and that's all that needs to be done with them. A tactic like "but Baba Yaga is against it" doesn't bring about any creation or destruction. Well, they exist, and they exist, they won't hinder, and they won't help. So, that's it.

The second half has already been shown. In 2004, when Kushnarev spoke in the square. He was held in a cell for three weeks by the Orange Revolution supporters for that speech.

Back then, no one was defending anyone; they were against the Orange Revolution. That's why they voted for federalism in Severodonetsk.

I wonder, what exactly did Azarov do that was so wrong? Well, they achieved his departure, what's next? The "Egghead" had the sense to refuse, and now we have Arbuzov. Is this what they fought for?

Meanwhile: yesterday, my neighbor went to the bank to collect her pension – there was a queue at 4 a.m., and she only received 500 hryvnias. There were crowds of people, and of course, they are all delighted with the Maidan. They are probably withdrawing money to buy tickets to go and support the Maidan protesters
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I think we've already discussed that we're talking about different things. Sorry to those I haven't replied to or won't be able to reply to, but I don't have the time or desire to respond to posts like "blah blah blah."
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What should I do with this half?
Just forget about it. With left-hand threading.
Anyway, they're practically useless in any situation.
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So, what’s the point of offering support? You can support anyone, but it doesn’t change anything for anyone. Real actions happen on the ground, while a virtual army has absolutely no weight.

And by the way, I’m not from Western Ukraine. The city I live in is listed to the left, under my avatar. And there are indeed many undecided people around me, but they can clearly and accurately describe the current situation in the country based on the exchange rate and the length of the queues for pensions.
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