Posts from Season: "Winter 2013-14". Online games for rating (reports, discussions).

I always thought that if you choose auto-calculation, you're basically playing for a draw :smile48:

I always thought that if you accept an auto-win, you're basically playing for a draw :smile48:

In principle, it depends on how you agree, I don't know of any rules like that. In this case, it was just a simple mistake with the turn sequence: a noob ran away with his army to the wrong place. Valk was resting this turn, and one of the noobs was supposed to use her army to clear the entrance to the treasure (up to 50 griffins), so that while Valk takes the consulate, they could find something nice in the treasure. As a result, the army ran away, and the noob standing at the entrance to the treasure just stood there like an idiot. Knowing whether Valk should go into the treasure after taking the consulate (it's nearby) or go to another treasure (a bit further away) was important. It was purely a matter of tempo.
Sometimes auto-wins happen due to a loss, as, for example, recently an opponent wrote to me that he lost due to a mistake and asked for an auto-win. I agreed without any problems. He mentioned that he would agree to a draw if I didn't mind. As a result, we played for a win, he won, and I acknowledged it - I don't even see anything shameful in that, it was all fair. Things happen, after all, and we play for fun and to learn and improve. And lately, since I've returned to playing Heroes on HW, I only play it in parallel with work (I don't have half a day to spend just on the game anymore). Hence, the frequent inattention. And in my case, there was no loss at all - I can send you the save files and the ICQ log as proof of what turn the auto-win was given and show what the mistake was. There really wasn't anyone to lose to.
P.S.: If there is a rule, even an unwritten one, about auto-wins and draws, then I am ready to agree to a draw if the opponent agrees, even though, in general, this auto-win didn't affect the outcome, or rather, refusing to give the auto-win wouldn't have affected it. Because I don't care about winning or the rating, I just want to do everything correctly and clearly, and it's even more frustrating that I've been playing for so long, and such stupid mistakes still happen ((
P.P.S.: sorry for the long text :)

01/21/2014 0771 (blue, Rampart, ivory) def krag (red, Inferno, Kal'Kh) 133, 2sm4d(3), thanks for the game.

01/21/2014 0771 (blue, Rampart, Ivory) def krag (red, Inferno, Kal'Kh) 133, 2sm4d(3), thanks for the game.

Confirmed, GG.

21.01.2014 Yvain (Blue, Tower, Neela, Neela) def Graf_Bananov (Red, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar) 8mm6(strong) 141
Managed to reach the opponent by day 137 and take his main castle with an unbought population. The next day the opponent capitulated because there was only trash in the Dragon Utopia.

21.01.2014 Yvain (Blue, Tower, Neela, Neela) def Graf_Bananov (Red, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar) 8mm6(strong) 141
Managed to reach the opponent on 137 and take his main castle with an unbought population. The next day the opponent capitulated, as there was only trash in the Dragon Utopia.

Thanks for the game!

21.01.2014. Heroes13 (red, Swamp, Mirlanda, Sandro) def PlayIntelligent (blue, Castle, Cuthbert, Luna), 2sm2s, 126
We took a restart, lizardmen, external dwelling of Gnolls, and Griffin Conservatory built on respawn. But ultimately the lumber mill turned out to be blocked. Somehow built 1,2,6 in the citadel, Sandro gets Earth Magic. On the second week, I buy the army, take the double Griffin Conservatory, by 126 I reached the opponent's secondary hero where another Griffin Conservatory was revealed. At this point the opponent surrendered; as it turned out, he also had no wood, and his map turned out much worse than mine.
Thanks for the game.

21.01.2014. Heroes13 (red, Swamp, Mirlanda, Sandro) def PlayIntelligent (blue, Castle, Cuthbert, Luna), 2sm2s, 126
We took a restart, built lizardmen, a gnoll external dwelling, and a Griffin Conservatory at the respawn. But in the end, the wood mine turned out to be blocked. Somehow built 1,2,6 in the citadel, Sandro gets Earth magic. On the second day I buy the army, take the double Griffin Conservatory, on day 126 I reached the opponent's secondary hero where another Griffin Conservatory was revealed. The opponent surrendered right there; as it turned out, he also had no wood, and the map turned out much worse than mine.
Thanks for the game.

Confirming, thanks for the game

21.01.14 GUNAR (red, Castle, Valeska) def Akella (blue, Rampart, Ivor), 8mm6a, 142
Thank you for the game!

01/21/14 GUNAR (red, Castle, Valeska) def Akella (blue, Rampart, Ivor), 8mm6a, 142
Thanks for the game!

Confirmed,
thanks for the game.

P.S.: If there is, even an unwritten, rule about auto-play and a draw, then I am ready to agree to a draw if the opponent agrees, even though, in general, this auto-play wouldn't have affected the outcome, or rather, it wouldn't have affected the outcome if I had declined the auto-play.

The opponent doesn't agree to a draw; this is a seasonal game. If there is an auto-play for a draw, the opponent will mention this separately. :D

21.01.2014 Grizvald (Red, Castle, Valeska, Vokial) def sartrik (Blue, Stronghold, Gunnisson, Jabarkas) 2sm4d(3) 133

There was only one restart left, if memory serves. Across all resets, wolves were never built even once.

Starting artifact gives +5% archery bow; in the tavern — Jabarkas. I rub my hands together, place orcs, and get a stack of 19 shooters. Successful and all is well. On the very first day I see two Dragon Fly Hives — one behind the Wyvern, the second behind the cow pens.

I spread out along the roads; exits to the adjacent zone are blocked by 50-99 orcs on one side, 50-99 wolves on the other side. Naturally, both are on swamp. CE — black dragons. I try to get to a secondary via rough terrain, which is also on swamp. In a wagon near the castle I find a +4 shield, and drag it to Jabarkas. Along the way, not having scouted the wolves on the road, on day 114 I attack them and lose -> Griz offers an auto; after some thought and head-scratching, I take it. I experience severe stone issues; the Griffins are only built on day 115. I break through to the adjacent zone on day 116, capture a nearby prison; in the prison is a level 1 dip. The opponent has Vokial and Erdamon lit up everywhere. The week ends just horribly — Griffins in the fort, a thousand standing around, didn't make it to the adjacent zone — the road is of Jebus_Cross quality.

In the first days of the new week I'm still wandering through rough terrain toward the town, build Bear houses, Castle; on day 124 I take the external orc dwelling, on day 125 I break through the road. Around that time I spot the opponent for the first time, but just briefly. I find a Griffin Conservatory, but it's too far to march — I head toward the Dragon Fly Hives and plan to go to another adjacent zone — there the exit to the treasure zone was visible almost immediately, but here I somehow didn't find it.

I decide "not to take risks" and not to lose again, and only take the Dragon Fly Hives on day 131 (successful, I know). I set up the Papal 4th speed near the Hives, establish chains for army transport + Griffin upgrade from Jabarkas. The Hives are taken, a Naga Bank with 10 Nagas is taken, Jabarkas runs to the adjacent zone. On day 133 it turns out there's no passage through the rough terrain — blocked by a +1 attack guard. I grab a +2/+2 sword and prepare to fight the orcs. The opponent breaks through CE on day 135.

I think about rushing to the FB or something — no chance of winning either way — there are 5-9 Angels, 10-19 horses, and a bunch of bone piles. I broke through to the adjacent zone, saw a Dragon Fly Hive (minimum stats) and decided "screw it, I'll get into the treasure zone, then surrender."

The opponent took the main town, killed the horses, all good. In the treasure zone I find the best artifact in the world:



I capture it and drag it to the opponent as a gift.

GG, WP, thanks for the game. I'm not playing Jabarkas through orcs anymore

Saves:
http://up.5cm.ru/u/Msug/papstvo.zip

01/22/2014 R@sIM (Tower, Eyne, Torosar) loses to VlaVor (Castle, Kaitlin, Kragg Hag) 2sm4d(3) 123

Week 1
I was very happy when Valeska and Kragg Hag visited the tavern, and there were also 3 Crypts, 2 Mines, and a Dwarven Treasury near the Castle. An army of 25 Archers and 25 Spearmen easily takes 2 mini-Crypts, but the 3rd one took some effort. In the end, I had 14 Archers and 17 Spearmen left, but I had enough money for 6 heroes and Cavaliers in the Citadel. Also, there was a Stable nearby, and the Witch Hut gave Logistics.
The joy after taking the Crypts ended: on day 3, the opponent already took a secondary Castle, and the guards at the exits from their territory (there are 3 of them) are quite unpleasant (Hell Hounds and Archer squads). So, I'm waiting for the Cavaliers, and on day 6, I break through one of the guards, taking my secondary Castle - Rampart.

Week 2
The opponent, on the adjacent territory, almost attacked a scout on day 121 (I see 100+ Goblins there). Kragg Hag takes the Unicorn Glade and buys everything. On day 122, the opponent decided to turn towards my secondary Castle, my army is being replenished (but I'm running out of money), I upgrade the Archers and Spearmen and attack.
In the end, I was left with 1 Champion and 17 Heavy Archers, the opponent fled with the remnants of Golems, a Wagon, and a Ballista. Then Solmyr arrives, throws an arrow, but Kragg Hag bribes him for 1500 coins. After that, the opponent surrenders because he has no money or army.

R@sIM, thanks for the game! :smile20:

01/22/2014. Heroes13 (blue, swamp, Korvak, Vistan) def juffIN (red, Rampart, Gem, Ciel), 2sm2c, 143
We played with saves, I vaguely remember the beginning. I found a lizard lair and Vistan in the tavern. In the second game, I lost momentum due to a disadvantage, and my Deep Dweller was in trouble. In the third game, I ran around an empty treasure room (although I got boots of speed and two Pandora's Boxes with 5000 experience and 15000 gold). I upgraded everyone and went to the opponent after 30 turns with cyclops. The opponent was doing poorly and decided to surrender.
Thanks for the game. Next time, you'll play better ;)

01/22/2014. Heroes13 (blue, swamp, Korvak, Vistan) def. juffIN (red, Fortress, Gem, Ciel), 2cm2c, 143

According to the protocol, everything is correct:rolleyes: