Regarding the AI's behavior. — General

winthrop

1/13/2014 7:39 PM UTC

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Could you please advise on how to deal with a bot that constantly attacks after 2 (sometimes 3) weeks of gameplay? The game difficulty does not affect its behavior. I don't have enough time to develop and upgrade my hero during this period. I partially lose my army to neutral creatures, and then the bot shows up, fully upgraded and well-equipped. I'm playing on random map generator (RMG) maps. In Heroes 3, the bot doesn't behave so aggressively :smile32:.

Ment

1/13/2014 8:13 PM UTC

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Experience will help. You'll start playing more aggressively, worrying less about losing troops on neutral territories, and losing fewer troops overall. You'll reclaim resources and build faster, and then you'll win. You can also tell me which faction you're playing as, which faction the AI is, and what map size you're choosing. Then I can give you more specific advice (ideally, if I also knew your play style, I could give advice for each game day).

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winthrop

1/13/2014 11:50 PM UTC

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Ment

Experience will come with time. You will start acting more aggressively, be less afraid to lose troops on neutral territories, and at the same time, lose fewer. You will reclaim resources and build faster. And you will win.
You can also write who you are playing as, and who the bot is playing as. And what map size you choose. Then I can give specific advice (ideally, if I also know your play style, day by day).

I played the fifth game very little, and Heroes in general. I don't really have a style; I usually build for troop production + upgrades for the daily gold bonus. I'm currently ignoring the tavern and forge (probably a mistake).
I've been playing as the Dwarves, setting the bot to random, and choosing a large map size.
Regarding experience... I don't see any ways to gain it other than reading guides/tactics.
And as I already said, I can't get very far because of the bot's attacks.
I guess I'm doing something wrong %)))

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With the computer, unfortunately, I can't have large-scale battles

Eleondor

1/14/2014 7:56 AM UTC

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in any case, you can defeat the bot. In the second or third week, it will only buy basic upgrades, no more. During this time, you can improve 2-3 types of units and easily defeat it.

Ment

1/14/2014 9:16 AM UTC

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Okay. So, first: forget about the Dwarves. It's not the faction you should start with. Try Humans or the Undead. Orcs should also work well, as they represent pure brute force.
Second: ignoring the Forge is still somewhat acceptable... Various ballistae and tents are certainly useful, but you can beat the AI without them. However, ignoring the Tavern is very bad. You absolutely must build it on the first day (if you haven't already) and buy at least one hero. I then transfer their troops to my main hero, while the purchased hero runs around empty, scouts the territory, and picks up whatever is lying around. Of course, experienced players can further refine the tactics of secondary heroes, and this can be very significant, but it's not necessary against the AI. However, having a secondary hero in general is essential.
Third, this might also be worth mentioning. Just in case, I'll add that one simple tactic will significantly reduce losses on neutral creatures: the "Elinich" tactic. Take your first-level unit and separate one creature from it into each new stack. In battle, use them to absorb the attacks so that the enemies don't touch the other, full-fledged stacks. Also, disable retaliatory attacks.
I think that's enough. And then you'll slowly start playing against other players, which will be much more interesting ;)

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winthrop

1/14/2014 12:54 PM UTC

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Ment

Ignoring the tavern is a very bad thing. You should definitely build it on the first day (if you haven't already) and buy at least one hero. Then, I transfer their troops to the main hero, and the purchased hero runs around empty, scouts the territory, and picks up whatever is lying around.

I know that you can play this way; I didn't think it was so important. %)

Ment

Third, this might also be worth mentioning. Just in case, I'll add that one elementary tactic will significantly reduce losses on neutral creatures: the "Elinich" tactic. You take your first-level hero and separate one creature from it into each new squad. In battle, you use them as a shield to absorb attacks so that the enemies don't touch the other, full-fledged squads.

I tried playing this way against neutral creatures. I created 1 squad in addition to the main one, with 1 creature. It didn't help much, especially in the case of archers, as the neutral squad attacks the squad that is larger. But next time, I'll try making 2-3 squads of 1 creature each. I need to practice more.

Ment

You also disable retaliatory attacks.

Can you elaborate?

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Eleondor

You can always beat the AI. In the second or third week, it will only buy the basic increase, nothing more. In that time, you can improve 2-3 types of warriors and easily accept its challenge.

I understand that it's possible, but I haven't figured out exactly how.
So far, I haven't been able to lure it into a siege of my Castle.

Ment

1/14/2014 1:09 PM UTC

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I tried playing this way against neutral creatures. I created one additional unit besides the main one, with only one creature. It didn't help much; in the case of archers, the neutral unit attacks the unit with more creatures.

You can use these single units to block archers so they don't shoot. Approach them closely and don't attack. They will still shoot once, but only once.

Could you elaborate?

For example:
1 peasant attacks 50 hamster berserkers. The hamster berserkers are all alive and kill the peasant with a counterattack.
10 swordsmen attack 50 hamster berserkers. They kill 30, and there is no counterattack (they attacked the peasant).
20 hamster berserkers attack the swordsmen, kill one, and die from the counterattack of the remaining 9 swordsmen.
As you can see, this tactic saved you at least one swordsman who would have died from the hamster berserkers' counterattack.

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winthrop

1/18/2014 9:44 AM UTC

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Thanks for the advice! I'll give it a try.

SuperGuru

12/23/2014 11:58 PM UTC

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Probably, it’s best to start on Recruit difficulty; it’s more relaxing. I, for example, didn’t adapt right away because I had been playing Heroes 4 for 7 years, and as everyone knows, that’s a completely different game.

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