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Alright, no hard feelings. I think I played SoD more than you played WT, but that's also irrelevant. Standing up for your own community is absolutely normal. I'm almost certain that if someone like Tvaryna took on the "WT issue," everyone would suddenly forget all about SoD.

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I can't wait for Maretti to start playing Warlords and eliminate all these "daddies" one by one. The Warlords chat will probably burn to the ground.

He has it written in his profile on the Warlords Community League - "I don't play easy versions." :D
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Exactly. Most of the old-timers who switched to WT back in the day haven't even played modern SoD HD+
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further discussion on this is pointless)
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
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I see the reason as something else. A fear of something unfamiliar.

Just the facts: among the people taking prize places in LANs and beyond, you won't find a single one claiming that WT is a myth for daddy's self-affirmation)). And their opinion is truly more weighty than, for example, Grizvald's opinion, who saw a rush on SoD, quickly cobbled together a wonderful crap, and just as swiftly disappeared. Of course, there will be a couple of people who actually tried it but couldn't get into it. Their opinion deserves respect, but they are a tiny minority. In response, one could cite Dubrovin as an example. HW has never seen bigger conservatives. In the end, he still switched from SoD... even if to Jebus))) And in general, about half of WT players willingly and successfully play SoD. So there's no need to throw around such offensive words ;)
I haven't actually disappeared anywhere; everyone forgot about the crap long ago (and that crap was merely a response to your message and is purely humorous in nature), and I didn't even write my opinion here, I'm just reading all this mudslinging, and it depresses me, because I have plans to attend this event not as a spectator. Yes, I'm a Новичок, yes I don't have the vast experience like the daddies, but I want to play Heroes with you "oh Gods" in person and observe the process, so to speak, especially after visiting Siberia-2013. And if I do write my opinion, it won't matter to anyone anyway, because there are the daddies.
Мой стрим-канал: http://heroes3.tv/Grizvald.

Восстановил старый номер аси, теперь тут: 625045517

"Это нам идеально подходит" (с)

"Лабета - папашка на первую неделю" (с)

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Yes, I'm a newbie, and I don't have as much experience as those seasoned players.

Well, based on that alone, you should consider – maybe these guys aren't just talking nonsense?;)
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
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Well, based on this, it's worth considering – maybe these guys aren't just talking nonsense?;)

I didn't quite understand what you meant, but that's okay..
Мой стрим-канал: http://heroes3.tv/Grizvald.

Восстановил старый номер аси, теперь тут: 625045517

"Это нам идеально подходит" (с)

"Лабета - папашка на первую неделю" (с)

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In short, everything is clear. Do what you think is right.

"Everyone to Minsk!" :smile14:

P.S. Unfortunately, I won't be able to come myself. If the dates coincided with a hockey event, I would definitely come. But, that's just wishful thinking.
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2Scorp: your energy is clear and appreciated. But you repeatedly contradict yourself with overly pretentious statements that don't offer anything useful and only exacerbate the general flood of irrelevant posts. If you really have something to say, express yourself clearly and with knowledge.
In reality: there is no compromise between SoD and WoG * (hopefully everyone has understood this by now, 19 pages in - if it's not stopped...). 1) You have already created a topic for registration. 2) A vote among participants for the version (how they will register, 80-99%, i.e., those who really want to be there). 3) Announcement of the official version based on the results of point 2. **3a) And then it's up to each person to agree to play/come - if there are not two tournaments in one place (why: see *). 4) Among those who remain as participants, a vote/debate for templates. P.S. If this offends anyone, sorry - I just regretted missing out on CNG13. P.P.S. If I missed something or was wrong, I am always ready to discuss it. SEPARATELY 5) As an organizer, you can announce any version without any votes, and then proceed to points 3a and 4. If you want to "offend" as few people as possible, don't delay with point 5.
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I don't know why you're arguing about SOD vs. Warlords Tournament – there are 2 obvious things:
1. People come to SOD – just look at the "newbie 201* season" thread – there's nothing like that in Warlords Tournament. That's a fact.
2. Warlords Tournament is more competitive – it's all about skill – how well you fight, how well you micro-manage, how well you build chains, etc. – if you're experienced and know what you're doing, all the other random things (lack of control, morale dropping 6 times in a row, 6 ramparts appearing out of 7 generations :D, etc.) become less important.

The first point will lead to the fact that in Warlords Tournament, even if there are only a few players left, there will still be players who can perform well in any version – Stinger, for example – they will play in SOD for the reasons mentioned, but they will prefer to play Warlords Tournament for the LAN tournaments.

Warlords Tournament is like learning to play with a new Castle – at first, it's confusing, but then you get the hang of it. The conclusion is obvious – if Warlords Tournament doesn't develop in any way, which is what we've seen in recent years, then it will eventually die out and there won't be any arguments at all – if Warlords Tournament does come up with something good and adequate, then it will most likely just be a LAN version of the Tournaments, and you'll just have to play it to understand what it is and how it differs – IT'S THE SAME GAME! Both mods just have some minor differences, and there's not much point in arguing about a new Warlords Tournament patch or a specific change to the HD mod – everyone is right in their own way, but what's the point of pointless arguing?
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As someone who has played War of the Titans, organized tournaments for it, and analyzed the game, I've concluded that the "balance" in War of the Titans can always be negated by the random generator, regardless of the templates used. War of the Titans has three advantages:
1. Mirror matches
2. One-sided matches
3. GM restructuring.
Everything else has no impact on the balance (neither 3 stacks, nor morale, nor the ban on Necromancers, nor the "balance" of magic schools, etc.), and in some cases, it even adds overpowered elements.

And one more thing. If a player excels in War of the Titans, they will also excel in Clash of Heroes, and if a player excels in Clash of Heroes, they will also excel in War of the Titans. Skill is skill, no matter the game!
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Skill is skill, no matter where you use it!

I know from experience :)
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Лето 2013.
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He gave me a plus, by the way ))

And off the top of my head, VT listed far more pluses for Mee, and was right about all of them. It's just that most people are simply too lazy to follow the provided exact link to the post on the VT forum. They say it's dead.

One thing is clear to me: whoever supports SoD supports quantity (which, certainly, turns into quality over time). Whoever supports VT supports common sense. But such people, I repeat for the 100th time, are always in the minority in all spheres of life. People watch Eurovision with much more enthusiasm than opera, so what is there to say.
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One thing is clear to me: whoever supports SoD supports quantity (which, of course, grows into quality over the long haul). Whoever supports WT supports common sense. But such people, I'll say it again for the 100th time, are always a minority in all walks of life. People watch Eurovision far more eagerly than opera, so what is there to talk about.

Oh, here come the papal comparisons) In short, the elite and the rabble, as sure as eggs is eggs!
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One thing is clear to me: whoever supports SoD is supporting quantity (which, undoubtedly, turns into quality over time). Whoever supports VT is supporting common sense. But such people, I'll repeat for the 100th time, are always in the minority in all spheres of life. People watch Eurovision with much more enthusiasm than opera, so what is there to say.

You are fundamentally wrong here.
VT has stalled, and "common sense" by definition cannot be standing still, as that is a path to nowhere.
SoD is developing, and right now it is exactly "common sense" to support SoD; that is what everyone is trying to express.
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VT Mee listed far more advantages of VT off the top of his head, and he was right about all of them. It's just that most people are too lazy to simply click on the provided, accurate link to the post on the VT forum. He's dead, they say.

Here's why I've never played VT:
- When I went to the VT website, I didn't understand anything at all. Yes, I'm lazy, and sometimes it's easier for me to click the red cross than to spend hours figuring out a bunch of symbols, but that doesn't change the fact that there's absolutely NOTHING written there about the differences from SOD. There are footnotes about changes in new patches, but that doesn't tell me anything.
- I have no idea how to install it, and there's nothing about it on the website either. There's a link to a 20MB version of VT, but where am I supposed to put it? On Heroes? What will happen to my SOD version in that case? Will I be able to switch between versions, or will I have to install a new Heroes for SOD afterwards? I have no desire to test all of this and check it, especially considering the opinions of many respected Heroes players about VT.
- Where can I find out what a GM overhaul is, how auctions work, what VT under SOD, full FT, etc. are? Maybe it's somewhere on the website, but it's probably classified and kept in a safe, and the keys to the safe are with the keeper of traditions, who no one has ever seen.
- If there was information, there would be interest, especially since VT is supposedly so great. But since there's no information, people watch Eurovision instead of opera.

The whole point doesn't even relate to the topic, VT or SOD; it's just the perspective of a "new school" player, and I think there will be others like that.
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