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The most up-to-date information and current tournament results can be found at the top of each page.
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Guys, it's all very subjective, and each player will have their own top list.
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I invite everyone today at 6:00 PM to the qualification draw for the main stage. The draw will be blind, and most players will have a free slot and automatically advance to the 1/32 stage. To succeed, you need to win three rounds, up to the 1/8 stage. Games in the 1/64 and 1/32 stages are played to 1 victory, and in the 1/16 stage, to 2 victories.

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It has been decided that the draw will not be blind, but seeded, i.e., players who received higher numbers will be placed in different parts of the bracket. The player with the higher number chooses the color.

The rating will play a secondary role in the seeding; primarily, we will be guided by the strength of the players.

The list with seeding numbers will be available before the draw and posted on the forum. The draw will take place as planned at 6:00 PM Moscow time.

Added 27 minutes ago
Here are the seeding numbers for the draw. I'll immediately say that I ask you not to dwell on the placement; this seeding is not intended to designate or highlight anyone, but solely to separate strong players on different sides of the bracket, so the places are distributed relatively conditionally.
If you think I made a mistake somewhere (significantly), write to me in ICQ or in a private message; I will listen/reconsider, but please don't start a huge argument here. Believe me, even compiling such a subjective seeding took a lot of time.

1 Egor Korobeynikov
2 BISHOP
3 Juristis
4 Yostairs
5 Redwhait HP / BA/IEHOK
6 theShevanesian
7 AYMAN
8 Palach HP
9 Kilgor
10 SVAROG
11 Chemist_HP
12 darkello
13 Psyche_7
14 ProtosArchon
15 Captain
16 Mizrael
17 Scorpiona
18 NEO
19 R55Max
20 rebellious
21 bubuch
22 RomarioGrom
23 Heroin_HP
24 Tovariщ
25 Stryfe
26 JustObserver
27 Volodymyr
28 злой_романтик
29 Grizvald
30 Dimast
31 Favio
32 Alone
33 Aiwe
34 Diabler
35 VanjaM
36 c0nn3c71nkK.ppL
37 Browser
38 marajan
39 Dima Surmay
40 Sanin
41 Dave
42 u2noob
43 Graf_Bananov
44 FAVorite
45 Toganash
46 Nitro
47 artbocha
48 Ominous1
49 Roger-ua
50 Iamsamstan
51 Pingvinyashka
52 MuLLIyTa
53 Anry
54 Vatya
55 Vinceras
56 wariator
57 Гриша =)
58 Gasik
59 Sloth_D
60 Alexey-omsk
61 Simon5760
62 Huanito
63 Defiant
64 Snooppy
65 marader-kisa
66 Mar
67 RA_ge
68 St_Klaus
69 shameonyou
70 heroes13
71 Sevan_80
72 ShadowManiac
73 cuc9ctblu
74 aka.Ward3n
75 Slayzer
76 Player_
77 ColdRain
78 bGu121
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http://binarybeast.com/x1312226

The qualification draw has taken place!

I will post the bracket in the first post shortly, and also add the deadlines for each round. You can start playing and arranging matches with your opponents right now. The player ranked higher chooses which color to start with, until the template is filled.

I wish everyone good luck!
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So, when exactly do we need to start playing? Explain it to a newbie, please.
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So, when exactly do we need to play? Explain it to a newbie, please.
After the qualification round is completed and the remaining 16 participants for the main stage are determined, the approximate timeframe is late January - early February.
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Am I correct in understanding that the player who is higher in the pairing is assigned the red color?
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Pit for LM
This is what is written in the regulations. From the last sentence, even a hedgehog should understand that the selection of the top 16 is a subjective opinion of the 3 organizers. Therefore, what darkello wrote is simply a confirmation of the regulations. No one is forcing anyone into the tournament who disagrees with the regulations.

The draw is scheduled for this evening.

By the way, it would be interesting to see what lists our players would create if they were the organizers of this tournament. So, those who wish can now "play organizers" and write their own top 9. Please note that the tournament is positioned as the Champions League, i.e., your top 9 should include those who have tournament victories.
Since all the winners of 2013 who wanted and could participate have already been included in the top 16, you will probably have to dig deeper into the past and consider not only the champions but also the prize-winning places of 2013.
It is desirable to justify your opinion, i.e., write why you think this particular player deserves to be one of the 16 champions.

1. Javdet
2. KobRa_RR
3. twaryna
4. Piterius
5. BISHOP
6. Dirty_Player
7. Maretti
8. Yostairs
9. numOne

Comments: Instead of Sevansan, who did not play in 2013, Yostairs, who showed brilliant play this year, was included in the list.
Instead of one of the "fish," Bishop was added. Dirty has more awards, although his rating is lower, so I left him on the list instead of LeBron. The result of the 2x2 Resurrection tournament is not taken into account, as the tournament was played on WT, and the organizer previously wrote about the tournament that "there is no SOD."
The_

Since the tournament is held within the framework of SOD, the victories are also counted within the framework of SOD.

The list, of course, is not of the strongest, but of the strongest among those who applied.
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Vatya
Am I correct in understanding that the player higher in the pairing chooses the red color?
No. The player higher in the pairing chooses the color.
The_
The player marked in blue in the table starts crossing out the template.
The_
The player higher in the ranking chooses which color to start with before crossing out the template.
After some complex calculations, I concluded that the blue player starts crossing out templates and castles, but before that, the player with the higher "rating" chooses the color.
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so, for example, if the top one is red, does that mean the blue one gets the template and the Castle?
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Sanin, you wrote well, but it's debatable. It seems that a lack of information is affecting your judgment. I have it easier in this regard.
Sanin
Instead of Sevansan, who hasn't played in 2013, Yostairs, who showed brilliant play this year, was included in the list.
I don't argue, Yostairs had a brilliant series at the end of the autumn season. However, in the permanent ranking (calculated up to November), he currently has 38 wins and 21 losses, placing him in the 4th ten. Here's some interesting statistics about your personal matches against him this year:
18.08.2013 Yostairs red Dungeon Shakti Shakti def Sanin blue Fortress Tazar Tazar 8XM8 1-4-4 +18
18.08.2013 Yostairs red Dungeon Shakti Galtran def Sanin blue Necropolis Clavius Clavius 8XM8 1-2-4 +16
24.08.2013 Yostairs red Castle Kaitlina Shakti def Sanin blue Rampart Ivor Ivor 8XM8 1-2-4 +15
31.08.2013 Yostairs blue Necropolis Clavius Galtran def Sanin red Conflux Luna Moner 8XM8 2-2-7 +15
07.09.2013 Yostairs red Inferno Mariuсса Galtran lose Sanin blue Castle Valeska Vidomina Spider 1-3-6 -16
08.09.2013 Yostairs blue Inferno Mariuсса Mariuсса lose Sanin red Dungeon Shakti Korbak Nostalgia 1-2-5 -14
24.09.2013 Yostairs red Conflux Luna Gunnar lose Sanin blue Tower Nila Sir Mullich Jebus Cross 1-2-3 -14
Judging by your progress, you are more deserving of being on the list.
Sanin
Dirty has more awards, even though his rating is lower, so I left him on the list instead of LeBron.
Please check the coordinator's profile. They are equal in online awards. Kostya is one of the strongest offline players in the world. But in our case, this "is not taken into account."

By the way, we have a slight overlap. The Diamond tournament was held on two versions - SoD and WoG.
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Iamsamstan
Juristis (488-784-621) plays a lot and has a high win rate.
We didn't consider the "plays a lot" criterion. Akella has 37 games, the same as Maretti. However, the autumn rating results are disappointing: 1353 (Akella) versus 1709 (Maretti).
At the beginning of November, Juristis has 15 wins, 9 losses, and a 62.5% win rate in the autumn season. Is that a high percentage?

To reach the group stage, players in the qualifiers need to win 2-3 times. I don't think you should worry about those you, the three organizers, have included in the lists. I think their level allows them to easily pass the qualification without your help.
And in the groups, the game will put everyone in their place.
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Pit for LM

By the way, we had a slight overlap. The Diamond tournament was held on two versions - SOD and WOT.
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Redwhait HP
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They're digging a hole for you :)
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The phrase didn't imply a continuation. A promise has been made, and the host won't take back his words.

My comment showed that we often overlook certain nuances. That's how "subjective opinion" arises.
Objectively, the selection of 16 should be done like this:
- clearly define what is taken into account;
- evaluate each criterion, for example, in points;
- go through the heroic history of all candidates;
- sum up or come up with a more complex formula with coefficients for seniority, etc.
It's a week's worth of work. And it's pointless.
Personally, from the list of 9 people, I was "subjectively" confident in 5. The remaining candidates (and there were about 10 more) we discussed for a long time. We came to the list that we came to.
Here are 3 lists that those who decided to play organizers wrote here, and they also differ. If these three were the hosts, they would have to form one list. That is, they would also have to discuss and decide, someone would have to give in, and someone would have to add arguments for their candidates. It's not as simple as it seems at first glance.

Redwhait HP.
According to my information, you and Валенк were supposed to finish playing yesterday.
I don't see a report or an award. Given the, let's say, lenient deadlines in Diamond, you need to adjust to 11 days.
Wicc
Someone is digging up dirt on you :)
Well, Redwhait was in the Sodovaya branch. So, if I wanted to dig, there would only be grounds to dig up dirt on Валенк. But no one is going to dig.
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DEADLINES FOR THE FIRST TWO ROUNDS
Due to New Year holidays, the deadlines will be extended. Since half of the participants have a freeslot and already know their opponent, I ask you not to delay and play – better early than at the last moment.

So, I expect results for the first round (RO 128, aka 1/64) by the 9th. The second round games will proceed according to schedule, with a slight allowance for New Year. Results for RO 64 should be submitted by January 22nd. After that, the tournament will follow the deadlines specified in the regulations.
The report format is no different from the example given in the rules; you all know it perfectly well. Please pay close attention to writing the date correctly.

To my surprise, I received a number of questions/complaints regarding the phrasing: "the player higher in the ranking chooses which color to play before the template is rolled." There was even an opinion that blue has an 80% advantage in this format, that blue chooses both the town and the color.
First, on HeroesWorld, it has been the custom for many tournaments that blue begins the template roll, thereby leaving the template choice to the red player (this statement holds true for an odd number of templates). That is, red chooses from the remaining two templates. Why I am hearing from more than one person that blue chooses the template remains a mystery to me.
Second, I will definitely calculate the statistics on how often the player higher in the ranking picks the blue color, and I believe the results will be 20% vs 80% – only, quite the opposite.

The bracket will be added to the first post today; for now, please use the link mentioned just above (there have been technical difficulties implementing the bracket via HTML on the forum).
A second mini-contest will be announced in the evening; I hope participation will be higher than in the first one ;)

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