Effect of the butterfly — Maps: The Shadow of Death

Marmot

8/25/2012 6:55 PM UTC

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Kird, for this, mapmakers need to have a sense of proportion to avoid extremes and be closer to the "golden mean." After seeing a lot of maps, you start to feel when you need to stop and fill the space.
By the way, I'm currently playing your "Preserve." I like it so far...

Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)

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samatron

1/15/2013 8:33 AM UTC

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eLPuegO

I also have a question for the creator of this map: Samatron, what was your idea behind giving humans a shield that provides +6 defense near their castle? I started playing this map with friends. Naturally, I chose humans, one of my friends chose elves, and the third chose demons. They started complaining that it's unfair, why do humans have this, but they don't. This shield can be obtained on the first day without any losses. An Archangel, along with 12 archers and 9 upgraded monks, can't be countered.

To be honest, I don't remember, it was a long time ago. I looked in the editor, and indeed, there is a shield that can be obtained. But not everyone will get it in the first week; it depends on the level. And I tried not to disadvantage other races. They also have something to take.
Thank you for the feedback.

ymitate

12/14/2013 12:53 AM UTC

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I spent about 4 hours trying to beat this map, but I couldn't. At first, I liked it, but when almost the entire map was revealed, I didn't know where to go. It was too confusing and frustrating. I didn't finish it in the end – I got tired of it.

Marmot

12/14/2013 1:58 PM UTC

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ymitate, such maps are for patient and persistent players; a blitzkrieg is usually impossible on them. But a determined player will be able to get a lot of enjoyment from completing them and simultaneously improve their hero skills, as here it is necessary to master some "advanced" technique that allows you to break through legions of monsters and defeat mega-enemies.

Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)

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samatron

12/31/2013 7:06 AM UTC

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ymitate

I spent about 4 hours playing this map and lost. At first, I liked it, but when almost the entire map was revealed, I didn't know where to go. It's too confusing and tedious. I didn't finish it in the end – I got tired of it.

Thank you for your feedback! It's a shame that you didn't have enough strength to finish it; perhaps you didn't take the description seriously:
Description: The map is quite difficult and very long to complete.

K0RN

2/9/2014 1:22 PM UTC

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Good map, except for one thing:

(it's impossible to land near the portal because of the small mobs that appear)
WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO NOW???:smile29:

Marmot

2/12/2014 10:56 AM UTC

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K0RN, it seems that unfortunately, it's game over here! :( This is a well-known issue that occurs on large maps during long games if there are no "spare" cells for disembarking from the boat (a note for the developers!). This is especially likely if there is a Fire God somewhere in Inferno: demons reproduce like crazy!

Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)

Lider1

2/12/2014 12:41 PM UTC

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The funniest thing is that I actually played this map before, and those same dragonflies were there. I didn't finish it, maybe that was the author's intention? Who knows.

Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того

K0RN

2/12/2014 2:24 PM UTC

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Yeah, well, if it's a game over, it's a game over. But overall, it's not bad, an interesting map. Thanks.

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samatron

2/14/2014 7:09 PM UTC

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K0RN

Yeah, well, if it's a game over, it's a game over. But overall, it's not bad, an interesting map. Thanks.

Thanks. I know about this place. It's a shame that I can't quickly make changes as the author anymore.

Lider1

...., maybe that was the author's intention? I don't know.

Looks like I've been exposed :smile21: :D

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modernox

3/8/2014 1:25 PM UTC

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Great map, but it’s quite challenging for a beginner. I completed it in 35 months, and towards the end, there was an overflow of money, and it went from some large amount to -2147483647. I could only defeat the thousands of dragons with the help of vampires. And I have a question: for some reason, I can’t equip certain (usually cool) artifacts, swords, and helmets. I select them, but the slot where to put them isn’t highlighted. What am I doing wrong?

Marmot

3/9/2014 10:10 AM UTC

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Completed in 35 months

Well, for a beginner, you're incredibly persistent and patient! :) My personal record is 29 months on the "Jedi story" map (but it's not easy to complete quickly). A normal time for a typical XL-sized map with a dungeon is up to 12 months; after that, playing becomes too tedious. So, you should start with simpler maps.
I also had an overflow of money once. However, I reloaded the save before this incident and changed the resources (in this situation, you can also recruit troops in all cities, even if they are not needed); after that, the overflow did not occur. And yes: the overflow occurs after 2 billion gold, so it is a very rare phenomenon.
Regarding assembled artifacts: have you definitely freed up all the slots they occupy? Some sets cannot be worn together. If you can't figure it out, post screenshots, and we'll take a look.

Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)

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modernox

3/10/2014 12:35 PM UTC

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Marmot

Well, for a beginner, you're incredibly persistent and patient! :) My personal record for the longest game: 29 months on the "Jedi story" map (but it's a difficult map to complete quickly). A normal time for a typical XL-sized map with a Dungeon is up to 12 months; after that, playing becomes too tedious. So, you should start with simpler maps.
I also had an overflow of money once. However, I reloaded the save before that incident and changed the resources (in such a situation, you can also recruit troops in all cities, even if they are not needed); after that, the overflow did not occur. And yes: the overflow occurs after 2 billion gold, so it's a very rare occurrence.
Regarding assembled artifacts: did you definitely free up all the slots they occupy? Some sets cannot be worn together. If you can't figure it out, post screenshots, and we'll take a look.

Thank you for the advice; I freed up everything, and I was able to put on the artifact. I didn't think that one artifact could take up so many slots.

And there's an interesting point about negative money – you can exchange it on the market for negative resources (however, in this case, you can't buy a hero, build, or upgrade troops, for example).
I solved this problem simply – I gave the negative money to my opponent. :)

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Frastmourne

3/6/2015 6:41 PM UTC

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samatron

Copy the downloaded map into the game folder (Maps), then launch the game and select this map from the list of scenarios. Good luck with the playthrough.

Samatron. Excellent map. To complete it, you need to carefully plan everything while looking at the editor. It's clear that a lot of effort was put into it. There are many powerful creatures on the map, and it's not for beginners:smile17: :smile01:

forza84

7/10/2015 3:23 PM UTC

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a wonderful map.
engaging and captivating.
without reviewing it with an editor and developing your own strategy, it becomes incredibly tedious and long...

haven't finished it yet, but it was amusing to defeat an army of 7,000 decent monsters with an army of 700 phoenixes, 100 archangels, and 700 wizards...

finished the map...the remaining gameplay is linear and not very interesting...everything is easily defeated, especially after obtaining the Necromancer's boots and collecting the best artifact in the game...

final score: 440 points...I was too lazy to look for the Grail...it could have been 490...not bad....