Mafia 76. Illumination — Mafia

Registered: 10/28/2007

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#1040 12/10/2013 12:48 AM UTC

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It would be impossible to describe the events of that night any better; it was a magnificent newspaper, but it's a pity that not a single word of mine is in it, and I couldn't contribute to this masterpiece.

Ah yes, to avoid any misunderstandings, I'll explain it again, for the umpteenth time:
In my games, the actions listed under one item occur simultaneously. The priority of actions under one item only matters if they overlap (for example, two blockers apply a negative effect to each other; in this case, the one listed earlier in the list will block). This is primarily done to prevent certain roles from gaining immunity to specific actions simply because they are listed earlier in the list, while in reality, they were not intended to have such an ability.

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Registered: 10/7/2013

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#1041 12/10/2013 7:24 AM UTC

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Rayne

There's no better way to describe the events of that night; what a magnificent newspaper, it's just a shame that not a single word of mine is in it, and I couldn't contribute to this masterpiece.

Should I understand this as meaning there's no evidence there?

Rayne

Ah yes, to avoid misunderstandings, I'll explain it again, for the umpteenth time:
In my games, actions listed under the same item happen simultaneously. The priority of actions under the same item only matters if they overlap (for example, if two blockers apply a debuff to each other, the one listed earlier in the list will take effect). This is primarily done to prevent certain roles from gaining immunity to specific actions simply because they are listed earlier in the list, when in reality, they were not intended to have that ability.

In simpler terms, Farisa can be redirected.
The question is, can Eleanor force the target to attack herself? I suspect not, but I'll ask. It's important.

Registered: 12/16/2012

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#1042 12/10/2013 7:26 AM UTC

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But nowhere does it say that the night "deprives the king of life" without evidence. Or am I not reading carefully enough...?

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#1043 12/10/2013 7:40 AM UTC

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Yes, there should be a clue, but I can’t find it, so Revan’s phrase made me suspicious.

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#1044 12/10/2013 7:42 AM UTC

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considering that he didn't write the newspaper article, it can be assumed that it is very well hidden.

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Registered: 3/11/2007

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#1045 12/10/2013 8:02 AM UTC

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So, you irrational bunch, do you really want to lose? Don't you understand that a mistake in the execution will cost you the victory? Next night, the killer will protect his true self, recruit a new player, and become immune to execution? Yes, if you execute me, the next night will be your last. You don't have any sharpshooters, and among the mafia, no one can break through the defense. You will have a small chance if the killer targets Metzger (but he could have targeted him on the third night anyway if he wasn't recruiting the deceased Wissy). So, are you sure about your votes? Do you want to continue the successful series of executions based on Tox's assumptions? He is responsible for as many deaths as the mafia, and among the deceased were quite useful roles. The mafia saved you from one mistake; they saved Wissy, and he killed Ment. But there's no one left to save. Now, remember the behavior of other players who have a good chance of being killers: 1) In the first few days, Sareta didn't care who to execute, as long as someone was executed. He was the one who suggested eliminating inactive players. He is also not sure about my being the killer. Furthermore, he developed a theory about a mafia connection between the obvious suspects, Koshi and Tox. Suspicious, isn't it? 2) Heroist, who has been acting quite aggressively in the last two days. He is going out of his way to execute someone. Reread his posts and see for yourself. He is acting quite suspiciously, isn't he? The killer's night actions, if we assume he is me, make no sense. Furthermore, they are completely out of character for me. I usually stay quiet and try not to attract attention. I don't commit such obvious blunders. Do you want to see my gameplay as a killer? Look at the mafia game with Tox and Ment, where it's about chess. It's a completely different style, right? Since you don't have enough, ahem, time for a simple analysis, I have to point it out. Oh yes, and I almost forgot, execute Heroist.

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#1046 12/10/2013 8:15 AM UTC

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Why aren't you posting about Sareta?)) Are you mad at me? (

Besides, they completely clash with my style.

That's exactly what you were counting on – a maniac wouldn't do that, I wouldn't do that, and so on. Just reveal yourself if you're not a maniac. You'll get a modkill, but at least you'll prove your point to everyone.
And yes – who else would talk about excessive aggression if not you?)

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#1047 12/10/2013 8:25 AM UTC

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Why would I, when I could just stay quiet and avoid drawing attention to myself? I wasn't a candidate for the night, so it would be more beneficial to simply not make myself known. It's irrational. Besides, the tactic you described doesn't fit my style.
Reveal myself? That's unwise. You could have recruited Eleanor, who stole the voice. The city will go into a non-negotiable state, and at night, you'll recruit a new player. So, I think I'll pass.

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#1048 12/10/2013 8:35 AM UTC

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You are mistaken again. During the Night of Terror, you are already a prime suspect. They don't kill you because you have a shield. The newspaper reports the death of the king's daughter. Who else has natural protection? That's right, only the negative characters. EXECUTE Mold. And what was the result? No one ever found out about your shield. They executed the Winner. You understand that they will try to block you – by redirecting the protector towards you, you not only put the negative characters in a vulnerable position, as they become defenseless during this night, but you also play in an unconventional way, seemingly removing all suspicion from yourself. Do you consider this a setup? But the killer didn't know for sure if you would be blocked. Although everyone understood that this was most likely what would happen. What's the point of using his own recruitment if he can just sit back tonight – 100% chance of you being executed, leaving the town in confusion, and then calmly recruit the rest.

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#1049 12/10/2013 8:38 AM UTC

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Ple-Sen

He also isn't sure about my "maniacal" tendencies. Furthermore, he developed a theory about the connection between the obvious fingerprints of Cauchy and Tox. Suspicious, isn't it?

Why should I be confident? I believe you were framed (the first time accidentally, the second time intentionally), but considering the triple vote of the emissary, I am forced to execute you until other candidates appear.

By the way, regarding the obvious fingerprints – that was unnecessary. I'll explain everything later today. For now, I'm looking for a clue.

We could try Heroist, but I think if he were a maniac, he would play more... enthusiastically, let's say. Personally, I think he's more of a Mafia member, and I simply don't see any other candidates for the maniac role. Alex, Nefela, Mona – they all look equally suspicious regarding the emissary role. With you, there remains a small chance that you were "acting suspiciously to avoid suspicion."

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#1050 12/10/2013 9:34 AM UTC

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ToX

Looks like the Mafia will win.

I might be bad at analyzing clues...)), I read lazily, and that's it... But, using my fingers and something else, I can say: the Mafia will win.
x)

Are you guys really reading each other's minds?)
Twice, the protection was given to Plesen.
Your thoughts: The Mafia member needs to protect himself, otherwise he will be killed. Plesen was protected twice, so it must be the Mafia member.
The Mafia member has 75% protection, he saves himself at night and doesn't reveal himself to everyone who is reading.
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I'm laughing.

Here's a loser, huh) Would you protect yourself like that?)) To the Perstam and the Mafia. You would hang like Plesen.
He moves freely. And it's easier to use a random player for protection, so that the question arises why the protection is on this particular player.

Stop executing "according to plan". Try to change your mind.

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I will execute Heroist, Nefela, or OhFF.
Nefela, you said something about protection as if you were leading to it)
Or is it a mass thing?
Even though I want to execute the last one the least...\

Все псы попадают в рай

Какие бы законы мы не писали,
нас все равно расстреляют,
если мы проиграем эту войну.

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#1051 12/10/2013 9:49 AM UTC

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Revan, can an emissary change the objective of a recruited unit, but leave the author's note intact?

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Cancel the execution of the Mold. Found something, but I need Revan first.

Registered: 12/20/2007

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#1052 12/10/2013 11:58 AM UTC

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I just read the description of the King’s death. It’s kind of bland. It could have been better. After all, he’s the King!

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Registered: 3/11/2007

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#1053 12/10/2013 1:09 PM UTC

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Night of Terror - you are ALREADY a suspect in the eyes of the Fingers. They DON'T kill you because you have a shield. In the newspaper, they see the death of the king's daughter. WHO else has natural protection? That's right, only the Negatives. EXECUTE Mold.

And in the end, no one ever found out about your shield. They executed the Winner. Did you even understand what you said? To frame yourself with a shield to hide your natural protection and not frame yourself? "Oh, my arm might get broken! I've got it, I need to cut it off, then it won't get broken!"

You understand that you will be blocked - you redirect the defender to yourself, not only strongly framing the Fingers - because they become defenseless this night, but also playing unconventionally, thereby seemingly removing all suspicion from yourself.

Yeah, and also recruiting. Knowing that I will be blocked.

Do you consider this a setup? But the murderer didn't know for sure if you would be blocked.

I already wrote that he definitely recruited the blocker.

What's the point of him using his own recruitment if he can just sit this one out - 100% execute you, leaving the town in confusion, and then calmly recruit the rest.

If the blocker is converted, then I will be executed, and recruitment will happen. Double benefit.

Why should I be so sure? I think you were framed (the first time accidentally, the second time on purpose), but given the Emissary's triple vote, I am forced to execute you until other candidates appear.

1) He already has a quadruple or even quintuple vote. 2) Then the murderer will win. If you don't know the murderer, execute one of the recruited. There's no use for them right now anyway. And this way, you can stall until the murderer is revealed.

Registered: 12/16/2012

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#1055 12/10/2013 1:13 PM UTC

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The madman's blocker, if it even exists, only appears at night. So, there's no need for it. Okay, should we execute Kosh then? Does everyone agree?

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1) He already has a quadruple or even quintuple vote.

What nonsense.

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