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25.10.13 KobRa (red, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def St_Klaus (blue, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar) on Balance at 147
We picked all rests. It generated, albeit without cons, but the best of what was available. On the first week, I took an external dwelling and built Minotaurs with 2 portals, also clearing paths to both zones through wasteland. On the second, I decide not to rush (it's a bog, not the fastest here after all) and buy up thoroughly, for which I grab a couple of Naga hatchlings and other trinkets, like an external dwelling of Manticores :rolleyes: while also building a fort in the second Dungeon and capturing a third) In parallel, I'm leveling Shakti with Earth and Fire and Crag Hack with Air... At the start of the third, we finally meet; my only dream is to buy everything up and end the game, but the opponent predictably heads into the treasure zone. Under time pressure (we only played 6 minutes), I follow him, which turned out not to be the best decision, because Santa wasn't inferior in main hero speed, and I was chasing at his heels, seeing here and there Dragon Fly Hives taken (Tazar is shaking Dragon Fly Hives)), dreading to see a horde or even 100+ Wyverns.. In the end, I managed to grab only 4 Hives total for a whole 18(!) Wyverns. The opponent, meanwhile, got the expected 50+ Wyverns, forcing me to quickly wrap up shop.)) Luckily, I was given a couple more days to buy up, which I gratefully took advantage of! A single half-stack of Minotaurs alone was worth it!..and there were also 600+ skeletons, 60 Evil Eyes, 16 Scorpicores.. and similar stats, but I have 200 mana with Mass Curse, Slow, and Bloodlust for good measure)) Thanks for the interesting game!! I wish you continued progress!
I confirm. At the respawn, an external dwelling of Gorgons, and near the village, an external dwelling of Lizardmen. I went for ГО at the end of the second, cleared the trolls in front of the portal, got 50+ Cyclopes on the other side, went around through the necro-respawn, cleared 10+ Champions, entered the center, at my heels runs Shaktyan, then a carousel with running around and hives. Shook 60 of them (expected more), no chains, KobRa tore everything up and took the necro-castle with the Veil I had built myself. A bit dim. Alone, completely alone. Earth is expert, Air is being leveled, but no Haste and mana for one cast; if I had full mana, I would have attacked Shakti after collecting half the hives. Had to keep running. Couldn't combine the main army with the growth, the opponent first cut down a scout (a bookworm with Haste, by the way), then Tazar. Tazar has slightly better stats, but Shakti has a mountain of meat. The post-mortem showed that the Ghost Vampires guarding the pass through the Conflux (20+) fell fairly easily on 123. In the end, the treasure zone by the third week (by the time Shakti entered the center) was being consumed completely. I was too hesitant to hit the Vampires on 123 ))). I first went for ГО, then took the roundabout route. Result - lost tempo and a thrown match, because it's very hard to counter a triple Dungeon. Thanks for the game! It was truly thrilling.
If you can't take the second castle, then level up your hero and take the third.
Well, it's clearly stated that with the units I mentioned, you can take the second castle, and with good luck, even the third. Plus, with luck and other bonuses, you might even be able to take the maximum. But I can't seem to manage it properly, so I'm asking. I considered the option of taking the third castle in online play, but I decided against it because the opponent is strong, and I need to resolve everything in the second week and finish it in the third. Otherwise, I would fall even further behind, and instead of surrendering at 117, there would be a formal final at 142, for example.
Vinceras
12 years ago
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That's understandable, but why give up right away? It's better to play it safe. And whether to exchange all your troops for angels and risk a complete defeat in the endgame is also a matter of choice.
Analyzing a two-player battle isn't interesting, but I did some testing with a three-player battle.
The army is as specified in the task: 5 Psionicists, 10 Fire Elementals, 8 Earth Elementals, 15 Air Elementals, and a single Butterfly.
I used a hero with 6-6-3-2 stats and expert offense; the only spell needed is Bless.
Setup:
The main idea is to have everyone huddle in a corner, but with the Psionicists sticking out:
Then, use the Psionicists to wait, protect them with the Butterflies, and have the rest of the troops defend. The Griffins attack the Butterflies and take some damage, then they get hit twice, 3 stacks at a time:
The rest of the battle is simple; the main thing is to keep the Psionicists close to the two stacks, so they won't be attacked, fearing a multi-attack, up to the point of skipping a turn.
In this battle, I was lucky with morale; in the first 3 rounds, it didn't trigger, which allowed me to bring out 3 Air Elementals and all the Psionicists:
In general, all the ranged units are lost, and maybe 1-2 Psionicists. It's better not to bring in fewer than 4-5 Butterflies, as they are not good fighters.
Analyzing a two-player game isn't interesting, but I did some testing with the three-player scenario.
The army composition, as specified in the task, is: 5 Psycic, 10 Fire, 8 Earth, 15 Air, and 1 Butterfly.
I used a hero with 6-6-3-2 stats and expert offense, and the only spell needed is Bless.
Wow, I never would have thought it could be done this way; I respect Wicc even more now.
Myxomoar
12 years ago
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O_о Well yes, even my trashy town could have pulled off a double, with 2 angels and the rest of the rabble would have fled from a Dragon Fly Hive, with all that Earth magic gets expertized, and then it's just a matter of execution. And the setup is definitely solid, thanks!
Vinceras
12 years ago
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That’s pretty cool, I guess. But I wouldn’t go there with that army. And if you fight all battles like that, you can easily beat Maretti.
It's cool, of course. But I wouldn't go there with such an army)). And in general, if you conduct all battles like this, you can easily defeat Maretti.
Well, this is a relatively simple battle in terms of technique, simply because it's a standard one; in Warlord Trials, cons for Flax are only taken this way. The whole difficulty lies in assessing whether there's enough meat/stats. And if the battle is on the edge, then you need to consider whether the profit is worth the risk; after all, a few morale losses in the first rounds can doom the hero. Therefore, I wouldn't go with the specified army/stats either (if there are alternatives). But if you build up to psykers in the castle, you can survive a few morale losses. It's also desirable to have at least 30 mana so that you can cast shield/skin on the psykers between blesses.
It's cool, of course. But I wouldn't go there with such an army. And in general, if you conduct all battles like this, you can easily defeat Maretti.
I didn't go either, but I should have. And in general, it's difficult to win against a mega-bison like Maretti without almost impossible battles.
Dirty_Player
12 years ago
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It’s just that if something goes wrong somewhere (in this case, with building the birdhouses), then you should take a risk later to compensate for the mistake of the first week.
Diabler
12 years ago
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How did the number of griffins in the stack decrease from 30 to 13 during this capture in the first round?
How did the number of griffins in the stack decrease from 30 to 13 during this attack in the first round?
Attack with psionic, air, and fire. Then they flew out and pecked at the ground.
Browser
12 years ago
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10/27/13 Browser (blue, Necropolis, Clavius) def HellLighT (red, Dungeon, Shachti) on Balance at 131
Tokha resurrected 2 Jackals - Gashana and 2 of his own - the start wasn't great - the forest was blocked by Orcs - but there were 2 Bone Dragons - throughout the game, he simply didn't lose any Bone Dragons - Clavius had a great level-up - Earth and Log - he didn't take anything else - Haste and Slow - and in the final battle, mass oil and Haste on the Bone Dragons decided the outcome (it was under 300). Thanks for the game, cheers, cheers, and so on ))))))
27.10.13 Browser (blue, Necropolis, Clavius) def HellLighT (red, Dungeon, Shakti) on Balance at 131
Tokha resurrected 2 Bone Dragons - Gashan and 2 native ones - start not ok - wood blocked by orcs - but there are 2 external dwellings of Bones - during the game just didn't lose bones - royal leveling for Clavius - Earth and Log - didn't take anything else - Haste Slow - well, in FB Mass Shield and Haste on Bones decided (almost 300). Thanks for the game, many thanks, much love ))))))
I confirm, rolled all the rests into utter crap, after that it spawned without external dwellings, Griffin Conservatories, and Dragon Fly Hives, emptiness, lucky that at least all the guards on the opponent's side were slow-moving, on the adjacent Conflux respawn I found an external dwelling of Beholders on Impassable Terrain, because of it I reached the opponent 2 days later, which decided the outcome, he managed to take the Griffin Conservatory and expert Earth, while I was given everything except that... FB was never finished, Light cut in, I thought I'd keep fighting since I had captured almost all the castles, with a partial buyback I could have held the opponent's main, but I had no desire to load and replay the fight, thanks for the game.
It spawned 4 Dragon Fly Hives, but very crooked roads, I didn't change the last rest to random, so the exit was late with 30 Monarchs and scraps of wyverns (there were many blocks on the respawn that cut them down). The opponent never entered the treasure zone, only broke through the GO on Impassable Terrain on 127, attacked with a scout hero, checked - 8 Chaos Hydras, 5 Angels, and 16 Monarchs, on Tazar with stats 6 18 12 (50 mana) there was no sphere, I attacked and after the very first Chain Lightning for 800 there's a surrender, thanks for the game.
aka.Ward3n
12 years ago
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Group F aka.Ward3n (red, Castle, Caitlyn, Nymbus/Tamika) def numOne (blue, Inferno, Calh, Crag Hack) 122 on 2sm4d(3) I took 2 restarts, my opponent took 1, and we went. From the start of the game, a block on the road of 19 elves broke through. Tamika arrives and on day 1 advances Necro, Nimbus arrives and on day 1 expertises her. On 113, both Necros are expert, and from the max Crypt, a +5% Necromancy bonus drops. By period 117, I already had 276 skeletons necromanced, with building the Griffin Conservatory in the Citadel and a full buyout until 122. On 122, I break through to the Tower zone, scout the Griffin Conservatory, prepare to take it, but the opponent capitulates. Declined the auto. Thanks for the game.
