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So, according to you, there is no worthy opponent for Death by definition? This is fundamentally incorrect. Nature is a very strong antidote to Death, as well as to its Castle, magic, Necromancy, and Demonology. Vampires are strong, but not all-powerful.
Why not? I was just considering the Praying Mantis vs. Vampires scenario.
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No matter which option you consider, in my opinion, Nature has greater potential in the fight against Death, especially...
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Yes, all castles are good; choose one to your liking! :D It's just that when talking, everyone tends to favor their own! For example, Pandora respects nature, and I respect the Barbarian (By the way, nature is also good; a hero with combat skills appears! :D), and so on.
Let's stop dwelling on death... let's talk about nature instead! :) Because death is getting boring; the strength isn't in the castle of death, but in necromancy (I'm tired of repeating myself! :D)! :cool: Nature is a strong castle, and the portal with medusas is very helpful when defending the castle! :cool:
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For example, Pandora respects nature.

Yeah. But I also respect Haven. Almost the same.
But Nature is definitely superior to Death. This has been proven. First, the hero can summon elementals himself. Second, on the battlefield, a well-developed hero can summon mantises, for example. Third, in the portal, you can create completely different creatures (satyrs or hives).

And as Zdob said, there's a fighter hero – for a modest price of 1500 gold.
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I personally love nature. The combination of Tigers + Griffins + Magic Dragons + Elementals (the type depends on the opponent) has brought victory many times:smile13:
but still, the Barbarian:smile19: with 4-5 cities, in which Kennels and Magic Nullifiers are built (and this is quite possible on XL difficulty), can easily crush the undead and create problems for the Elves, especially if the hero has Nobility:smile15:.
Я вернулась... :smile24:
Ну что, не ждали? :smile08:
Пусть за нас говорит сталь! :smile13:
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And as Zdob said, there's a warrior hero available for a modest price of 1500 gold.

Also, Barbarians can hire them, and generally, heroes don't have 2 skills, but 3! :D And that's a big plus! :D

And mages are just not interesting! And they die quickly! :D :cool:
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And in general, mages are uninteresting! And they become useless quickly!

For me, on the contrary, developing a mage (especially an archmage) brings much more interest and pleasure than leveling up a hero's combat skills. Well, he fights well, and that's it. But what's the benefit for the rest?
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For a Barbarian to successfully "stun" a good Mage, they need to put in some effort. After all, decent Mages can summon units, cast spells on them to remove the "angel" effect from the Barbarian, and so on.
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For a Barbarian to effectively "take down" a good Mage, they need to put in some effort. After all, decent Mages can summon units, cast spells on them to remove the "angel" buff from the Barbarian, and so on.
Besides, Barbarians have limited mana, and by definition, they shouldn't have access to magic. This is restricted by the guild system, as you need to capture a Castle with that particular school of magic. And ultimately, Mages are much better, with their sophistication and elegant way of destroying Barbarians: Death Grip, and the Barbarian doesn't have that.
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Besides, Barbarians have little mana, and by definition, they shouldn't have access to magic. This is limited by the guild, because you need to capture a castle with that school. And besides, Wizards are much better, with their sophistication and elegant way of destroying Barbarians:) – Death Grip, which Barbarians don't have.


AHA! :D Death Grip is a curse! And curse a Barbarian with magic resistance?! :D :cool:
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For a Barbarian to be able to cast spells, and even teleport, you need to put in a lot of effort on a standard map:D :D :D
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To defeat a good mage, a Barbarian needs to "suffer" a lot.

And I would say, quite a lot. A good mage won't let himself be easily defeated. It's not that simple to take him down with a Barbarian's kick. Because the mage's health also increases, don't forget. And this is no longer that weak mage with 100 health that you hired in the tavern. He also provides benefits to the entire army!

And teleportation is great. But first, the Barbarian needs to either a) level up (which, excuse me, requires level 3 in Haven!) or b) find a scroll (which is even more difficult, as it might not even be on the map). So, if we follow point a), then it
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I would say it's quite decent. A good mage won't let himself be easily defeated. It's not that easy to take him down with a barbarian's kick. Because the mage's HP also increases, don't forget. And this is no longer that weak mage with 100 HP that you hired in the tavern. And he also provides benefits to the entire army!

And teleportation is great. But first, the barbarian needs to either a) level up (which, excuse me, is level 3 for Haven!) or b) find a scroll (which is even more difficult because it might not even be on the map). So, if we follow point a), it's no longer a barbarian, but a battle mage!
And to learn it, the barbarian, after becoming a battle mage, needs to:
capture a castle:
Haven (more chances of getting the spell)
Necropolis
Sanctuary
Therefore, a barbarian as a mage is not viable, and it's also difficult on a regular map, so there's a chance that the barbarian won't have 100% magic resistance, and consequently, he can be destroyed, at least with chaos magic.
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That's exactly the point – you have to spend some time playing first. But even then, there's no guarantee that anything worthwhile will come of it. It's better to just play what's available, i.e., focus on combat. And magic is quite rare for a Barbarian. And he won't get much benefit from it. A monotonous battle, in my opinion, quickly becomes boring... Magic, on the other hand, offers endless combinations.
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Ladies and gentlemen, don't forget: the Barbarian has one and a half to two times more troops:smile17: :smile14: :smile47:
Я вернулась... :smile24:
Ну что, не ждали? :smile08:
Пусть за нас говорит сталь! :smile13:
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