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Due to the prolonged discussions regarding the game version and the format of the event, it has become necessary to gauge public opinion.

This is a preliminary survey, and participants are not obligated to anything, but please try to answer as accurately as possible to reflect the actual situation.

We are particularly interested in the number of players who are willing to come and play SoD, as the composition of the Warlord Tournament (WT) players is more or less clear from previous years, but the composition of the SoD players who may attend the tournament is unclear even approximately.

Also, I would ask players who are not planning to attend the event not to distort the statistics, but to simply click "I will not attend."

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Many people are asking about the rules and other details. Of course, the regulations will be finalized closer to the event date, depending on the circumstances and current trends, but we can outline the approximate framework now.

The format will be as usual: a trophy for the winner, and a double trophy for the rest. Increasing the number of games risks disrupting the schedule, so we will have 4-5 rounds (depending on the number of participants), with elimination after two losses.

Templates for WT:

8mm6a, 6lm10a, Jebus, Diamond, and h3dm1 will definitely be included.

The other templates are still unclear – we can limit ourselves to this list (as CM and Mini-Nostalgia are rarely played anyway), or we can add something like a mirror Jebus / mirror Hypercube / Hexagi. Of course, this will be after preliminary testing in tournaments.

Time control: it is better to return to 4000+400, because, as practice shows, 4000+500 is difficult to fit into the schedule. An exception can be made for Jebus, where the games are relatively short.

Templates for SoD:

I have already said that playing XL+U in SoD can lead to extremely long games, so it is better to play something easier in club tournaments. For example:

2sm4d(3), Jebus, Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, Anarchy

We can also consider options like Balance and Panic, although, in my opinion, they are quite boring. Optionally, M-200 with a time control of 8+4+1 can be used if a quick game needs to be played to catch up with the schedule.

Time control: definitely a chess clock, and the specific numbers are negotiable. A rough equivalent of 4000+400/500 here is 60+6+1, and accordingly 60+8+1 for Jebus.

Suggestions and proposals are welcome.

It would be good to clarify what is meant by "VT" (presumably, "virtual tournament"). Does this refer specifically to a full-fledged VT, and nothing else?

I, for example, voted for a Versus mode in any form, but only if it is fully developed.

It would be good to clarify what is meant by "full build order". Does it mean a full build order and nothing else?

This can be clarified separately. Since I don't play myself, it doesn't really matter to me.

Already wrote: I have little faith that HotA will be polished properly; if anything is done, it will be at the last moment, half of the changes made will be highly controversial and full of minor and not-so-minor bugs that get fixed on the fly, so it won't be possible to properly playtest the version before the Tournament.
Therefore: games on symmetrical templates on HotA, the rest on SoD. It is desirable to expand the list of symmetrical templates - playing only on h3dm1 gets boring, no matter how big a fan of the template you are. So we need to hold some Tournament on a couple of symmetrical templates besides h3dm1. Regarding Jebus Cross: I tried to play it, even though I'm not a Jebus player, but a center covering a third of the plane without dwellings looks extremely dubious. With the new Griffin Conservatories/Hives, only Gosha has a more or less tempo-based game, but it's unlikely anyone else will agree to play with them at all.

I don't really feel like playing HL in SoD, even though it's possible...

It’s necessary to implement the rebuild feature, and then 8mm6 can be confidently used. The other two are much less in demand.

and the teleports can be fixed so that they all become two-way – that’s all that’s needed.

and the teleports can be fixed so that they all become two-way – that’s all that’s needed.

This is more relevant for LM10 or HM12 – it’s not that critical for MM6.

lm, it's a cool template, but it's a shame I won't be able to use it because of the SOD.

This is more relevant for Might & Magic X: Legacy or Might & Magic: Heroes XII, but it's not that critical for Might & Magic VI.

I don't know.

Recently, in a Might & Magic VIII map on Soda, I got stuck at the exit of a one-way road:rolleyes:

Guys, we could organize joint tournaments for Heroes 3 and Heroes 2, or Heroes 3 and Heroes 4 – there have been precedents. But running two Heroes 3 tournaments simultaneously in the same place won't work. It will lead to a tug-of-war, and then it will turn out that most players are using one version, and the minority will either have to play with the majority or be left out.

Therefore, you're doing the right thing by conducting a poll among those who can participate and announcing the version in advance.