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and imagine the opposite situation. You pick up an Air book (say 117), which you had bet on since 111, and it doesn't have Dimension Door... what then?! Honestly, I can't imagine how anyone could settle this amicably.


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KobRa_RR
and imagine the opposite situation. you pick up an air book (say at 117), which you were banking on since 111, and there is no Dimension Door in it... then what?! I honestly can't imagine how one could settle this politely.
I checked later -- there was no dd in the air book
actually, in that game situation, it didn't change a thing
simply put, there wasn't enough mana to use it, and then the game ended))

but what if I had used it? :) obviously, asking the opponents for permission to do so is kind of not quite right :D but what else can you do? suppose there was an air book instead of a water book (or Pandora's box with air), and there's no dd in there -- the actions taken in that case should have been identical! but stopping the game and demanding a replay when this is discovered is not "comme il faut" -- in that situation, the opponents had already done almost everything for the victory.... now if it were possible to gain some traction and even pull through, they would have agreed to a replay themselves, even with the same castles :)
so now this is a matter of "why" discussions -- so as not to run into it again in the future))
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Put yourself in Vova's shoes - he spent moves on something useful, possibly lost part of his army, and then it turns out you can't use it
I wasn't counting on dd one bit when I went for it)))
but the fact is -- it's in the book! would it be conscious bug-using if it had come to that? especially since I was sure that everyone has it this way (and there was no possibility to check at that moment) well, demanding judge sanctions on those grounds -- burning a valuable spell = last chance :D
"...the personal strengths and weaknesses of a leader are no true indication of the merits of his cause"

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KobRa_RR
and imagine the opposite situation. you pick up an air book (say, at 117), which you've been betting on since 111, and it doesn't have Dimension Door... then what?! I honestly can't imagine how one could settle this amicably.
Artem, that's not the opposite situation; the water book had everything plus a bug that shouldn't be used... but you're describing a situation to me where it's clearly RE—I'm talking about an AIR book without Dimension Door! And I would be the first one in favor of that, because 1 Dimension Door can decide the whole game, as well as fly

лето 2012.
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Artem, this is not a reciprocal situation; in the Water book there was everything + a bug that cannot be used.. and you're telling me about a situation where RE is definitely taken. I'm talking about the AIR book without DD! And I would have been the first to support it, because 1 DD can decide the whole game, as well as fly

Now it's clear that it's a bug
and it occurred, by all appearances, as a result of rolling back to an earlier version of the HD mod
but during the game, assuming it's a bug in order to use it as a trump card is wrong
I simply thought it was a host error, General for everyone, but since the host had already almost won, then so be it))
But not using what you were GIVEN -- is also wrong, don't you think?
"...the personal strengths and weaknesses of a leader are no true indication of the merits of his cause"

(с) Roger Zelazny
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wowa
Now it's clear that it's a bug.
And it seems to have occurred as a result of reverting to an earlier version of the HD mod.
And during the game, assuming that it's a bug in order to use it to your advantage is incorrect.
I just thought it was a host error, common to everyone, but since the host was already almost winning, it didn't matter anyway.
But not using what you WERE GIVEN is also incorrect, don't you think?
I don't agree with you. Don't you use scrolls of level 4-5 without building up your defenses?!
In general, in all tournaments, even those not related to Heroes, there are rules that sound something like this: using bugs during the game is prohibited, except for... :smile13:
Don't get me wrong, I have no complaints, I'm just discussing it:smile13:

лето 2012.
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darkello
In general, all tournaments, not just those for Heroes, have rules that roughly state: using bugs during the game is prohibited, except for...:smile13:

It wasn't a bug, but an incorrect save, and figuring out where it came from during that game would have been simply inappropriate.
Why inappropriate? Because it could lead to a rematch.
Did we need a rematch at that moment? Yes!
Did you need it? No!
That's why we didn't investigate anything and played until the end, under equal, as it seemed then, conditions)).

Fortunately, everything ended very quickly, despite everything :)
"...the personal strengths and weaknesses of a leader are no true indication of the merits of his cause"

(с) Roger Zelazny
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wowa


fortunately, everything ended very quickly, despite everything :)
Stinger is as fast as lightning:smile21:

лето 2012.
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Fellow lawyer, defiant, and Roma. I'll be home in 20 minutes, we can try to start then.

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Guys, my computer won't start :( looks like we'll have to postpone it until tomorrow.
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I wasn't even aware that we had made plans for today :D
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Confirming in advance. Exit 115. Blue hat and teapot near the Haven, implant for 800. By turn 121, 40 ducks, 2 angels, and 150 skeletons. But against any strong opponent, there's a Wizard who cheated, a Wizard to whom the defender gave 12k for a level 30 upgrade for his ducks, a Wizard with 20 mana and antimagic with 6 spell power and a cloak for three rounds. GG.
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kalababa
Confirming in advance. Exit 115. Blue hat and teapot near the Haven, implant for 800. By turn 121, 4 ducks, 2 angels, and 150 skeletons. But against any strong opponent, there's a Jurist who cheated, a Jurist to whom Defiant gave 12k for a grade 30 duck, a Jurist with 20 mana and antimagic with 6 speed and a jacket for three rounds. GG.
23.09.2013 Juristis (blue, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar), Defiant (tan, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def. kalababa (red, Necropolis, Galthran, Galthran) JC 121
That's how it went. For some reason, neither I nor Jurist took a Necromancer, and as a result, Kalababa also got a good hero. I had a buggy respawn, but with a lot of money, Jurist had a Knight and a Tazar, who grabbed a bunch of boxes for experience.
Thanks for the game.
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09/23/2013 Juristis (blue, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar), Defiant (tan, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def kalababa (red, Necropolis, Galthran, Galthran) JC 121
Confirmed, we wanted to punish kalababa, so we formed an alliance with Defiant before the game and implemented it. In the final, the cloak with +3 rounds of antimagic helped a lot, and I didn't lose a single voodoo. Thanks for the game!
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ICQ - 488-784-621, skype - juristis18

Весна 2014.
#450
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Kalababe, I was just one short of having four this time, it seems.