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Dimast

12 years ago

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Something about the previous tournament made it easier to understand the tables; here, I'm a bit confused. If I'm in 5th place, why is my first match against players 2, 4, and 6 marked in red? And against players 1 and 3, it's blue, and the second match is the opposite. Did I understand the table correctly?

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Сатир

12 years ago

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R55Max

Honestly, I don't understand how an adult can't grasp it:smile21: Okay, maybe a girl doesn't understand, but guys, it's just ridiculous.

Well, of course, it's not like it's borscht.

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R55Max

12 years ago

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Dimast

In some past tournament, it was easier to understand the tables. I don't quite get it here. If I'm in 5th place, why is my first match against players 2, 4, and 6 marked in red? And against players 1 and 3, it's blue, and the second match is the opposite. Did I understand the table correctly?

Not quite. It seems too complicated...

Guys, what would be the most convenient way for you to view it? Should we set all the colors for the first game? And then you can choose the opposite colors for the second game?

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Dirty_Player

12 years ago

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R55Max

Not quite. It seems too complicated...
Guys, what would be the most convenient way for you to observe? Should we set all the colors for the first game? And for the second game, you can choose the opposite colors from the first?

Yes, that would be simpler, and there would be no questions.

And the results can be displayed not like in soccer, but based on the final score, such as 2:0 or 1:1. Or we can divide the cell into two parts.

Егор Коробейников

12 years ago

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I don't understand: which color and which faction should I play as? Please make a proper table already!!!

.DiGGeR.

12 years ago

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Don't anger the pirates, or they'll break all the rules and come after you at night.

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Defiant

12 years ago

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No, guys, I understand that the table is a bit unconventional, but how can you not figure it out when everything has already been explained?

Dimast, let's clarify with your example. Let's say you're playing against Slaizer. For you, this corresponds to the second cell, and for Slaizer, it's the fifth. Both cells are red. This means that in the first game, Slaizer chooses 3 templates (because he is higher in the table according to the serial number), and you choose 1 template from these 3 and a color, and in the second game, it's the other way around.

P.S. It doesn't matter anymore, the colors in the tables have been changed :D

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R55Max

12 years ago

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Defiant

No, guys, I understand that the table is a bit unconventional, but how can you not figure it out when everything has already been explained?

Dimast, let me explain using your example. Let's say you're playing against Slaizer. For you, this is the second cell, and for Slaizer, it's the fifth. Both cells are red. This means that in the first game, Slaizer chooses 3 templates (because he's higher in the table by sequential number), and you choose 1 template from these 3 and a color, and in the second game, it's the other way around.

Honestly, when I read posts from people who can't understand the principles of the chess tables, I was simply shocked.

I changed the tables because some people asked about it, including in private messages, but my mind simply can't adapt to encountering such straightforward reading of the table!!!

Finally, I can't help but explain the reading again:

In addition to everything mentioned above, in each cell, the owner of the color is the one in whose row the cell is located. Take any cell, look at the color - you see in whose row it is located, which means that color belongs to them. It's incredibly complicated and unclear.

Furthermore, in these tables, the results are calculated from the perspective of the one in whose row the cell is located. For example, Player 1 vs Player 2 - 1st game, the color owner is Player 1.
Player 2 vs Player 1 - the color owner is Player 2. That's it.

Well, okay, I've been convinced for the past 2 years that some people look at the tables in such a primitive way that it's almost impossible for them to understand the universally accepted way of reading chess tables. Damn, this is used in all sports in the world, all betting companies in the world are full of such tables, and who knows where else you can see them.

Specifically to those who asked:

So, is it clearer now?

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Dark

12 years ago

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Yegor Korobeynikov

I don't understand: which color and which faction should I play? Please make a proper table already!!!

And those who don't participate should also express their opinions?:D

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R55Max

12 years ago

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Yegor Korobeynikov

I don't understand: what color and with whom should I play? Make a proper table already!!!

Yegor, what games are you even talking about? You signed up as a reserve, and that's where you are, can't you see?
Repeating:

Reserves:

- Nestor86
- Stratte
- Mar
- Roger-ua
- Psyche_7
- COBECTb
- Yegor Korobeynikov

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.DiGGeR.

12 years ago

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Where is Tvarina? He was also supposed to be on the reserve list.

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R55Max

12 years ago

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.DiGGeR.

Where is Tvarina? He was also supposed to be on the reserve list.

I didn't even notice the elephant :D, thanks, I'll add him.

Sanin

12 years ago

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Last year I didn't participate in this tournament, and when entering the thread to read reports, I never understood what it all meant. Now, as I understand it, no special designations will be needed. Things are indeed a bit complicated with colors, but we seem to have figured it out.
Questions:
1. Do I understand correctly that points are awarded per team and, when awarding them, the score of victory—whether 2:1 or 3:0—will not matter? And are points awarded separately for each match? That is, can a single team in a group earn a maximum of ~~ten~~ thirty points?
2. The regulations state that two weeks are given per tour. A total of ten games must be played. This means the group stage will last five months. Correct?

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R55Max

12 years ago

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Sanin

Questions:
1. Am I right in understanding that points are awarded per team, and when they're awarded it doesn't matter what the score of the victory was — 2:1 or 3:0? And are points awarded separately for each match? That is, the maximum one team in a group can score is ~~ten~~ thirty points?

Correct — if there had been 5 players per team, the volleyball system would have been applied. If you know what I mean. But there is one nuance. It's an additional tiebreaker in case of equal points. I didn't calculate it, but a situation may be possible where, if points are equal, the number of wins is taken into account. And if two players of one team win their games, the third — in terms of point counting — might not need to play, but in terms of counting the number of wins it's to his advantage to play and win the 3rd game of the matchup. So if he simply didn't play because his team already beat the other team, he could let his team down in a situation where the number of wins is being counted — again, if such situations are possible.

2. The rules state that each round is given two weeks. A total of ten games must be played. That means the group stage will last five months. Is that correct?

Yes, about four and a half months. If the players play faster, of course, everything can be shortened. Besides, the situation in the groups may become a foregone conclusion under certain circumstances — for example, a round or two before the end of the group stage.

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.DiGGeR.

12 years ago

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Last year, we played the group stage games in about a month. Now, it might take longer since there are 5 teams in the group. The only thing that was a bit annoying was the delayed saving of games. Playing against three opponents simultaneously made it difficult to find time to play. I think after (or during) the group stage, about five people will withdraw from the tournament.

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