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aka.Ward3n
I confirm.
The angels were loyal to Queen Valeska, but they didn't want to serve the demon princess Marius and the evil dark lord Shakti at all.
Thank you for the game, good luck in the future.
P.S. Huge thanks from Sem to comrade Redwait for the humanitarian aid. :D
Thanks also to Sem for the fun games and participation as an ally of the main crab. :D
Thanks to the tournament organizers as well, for not rushing us too much with the deadlines.
Good luck to everyone, may the strongest win! (or the luckiest:smile44: )
Yeah, these barbarians are completely illiterate, they haven't even seen books, I'll have to send them to school) Thank you for the game, and to the organizers, and of course to my teammate, we'll hopefully train together in the future)
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We haven't been able to reach the "Kurnu Пока" team for over 2 weeks, and we're getting tired of waiting, honestly.
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We haven't been able to catch the "Kurnu Пока" team for over 2 weeks, and I'm honestly tired of waiting.
They're obviously taking a break! :smile29:
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Of course, it's a long process; you also need to grow the tobacco!
Каждое поражение-навоз успеха!Герои как жизнь: непредсказуемы как городская маршрутка ,капризны как наши женщины,увлекательны как рыбалка в период нереста ,коварны и отвратительны если мышкой движет слюнявый читер! всё в них есть и это.......

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25.08.2013 Ayauhteotl (red, Swamp, Tazar, Tazar) + Lim4 (brown, Rampart, Kyrre, Kyrre) def rebellious (blue, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) + Stizko (green, Stronghold, Crag Hack, Crag Hack), Teamwork, 122
On the first day it was problematic to decide whether to take re or not. In the swamp the archers are not built, but two of their hives are opened, there is a hovel, the general zone of Gnoll hives on the grass is lit up, there are gloves, Tazar already has Tactics and Logistics, also there is a Stable, an external Marketplace, an Elf and Centaur hive. Nevertheless, they already started typing 111 in the game chat, but then they consulted some more and started playing))
On d1d2 the red Pirr happily runs to take the suspected swamp, and there is a tower. Takes it, sets up a lookout and sees two Hydra hives:cool: In the joy, forgets to build in the main town)
On d1d3 Tazar with a united army recaptures an empty Pandora's Box from the Huts (it had all level 3 spells). But gets Earth magic skill:cool:
In the following days the swamp is taken, Inferno is taken, the map is cleared, Griffin Conservatory 1, hives, we build the first 4 Mage Guilds - Slow is nowhere, not in scrolls, not in shrines. It gets a bit unsettling.
On d1d6 Tazar forgets to buy the spell book in the main town.:rolleyes:
On d1d7 in connection with this, Aya breaks into Inferno for the spell book, sets up a Marketplace there, after previously running around the map looking for a wood pile, places Hydras in the swamps, transfers resources to an ally, runs out as Tazar to refill mana at the Well, positions in front of the Faeries to break through the next day, having accelerated on a scout-delivered Pegasus. Only Tazar forgot to buy the spell book again!:rolleyes:
On d1d7 brown Labetha, who learned Slow at a shrine, breaks into the swamp, runs to brown Septienna, who was just carrying 4 Wisps from the hovel to the Rampart respawn and artifacts with scrolls to the shared pool. Labetha had to be immediately dismissed so she wouldn't block the road.
On d1d21 Tazar returns to Inferno, finally buys the spell book, breaks into the swamp closer to the GO and runs to it. Hydras are upgraded in the main town.
On his d1d21, Septi teaches Tazar useful spells, gives him the Ring +2 spell duration and the Sword 2/2 from the grave, which Kyrre brought. Such extreme structures as the Harpy Hovel and Medusa Hovel are taken without checking. Trade to 0 so red can buy more troops. We pass the turn and green d1d21 remains. We're afraid he might wipe us. He doesn't.
D1d22 According to plan, troops are brought in: 12 upgraded Hydras, 20+ Wisps, upgraded Dragonflies, upgraded Wasps. The GO of upgraded Minotaurs (87) is fought. Enova runs ahead to scout the path. Runs into Arch Devils guarding a Shield -3/+12 and sees the opponents' GO of Thunderbirds. The opponents are also standing in a clump behind them. Three green heroes: Gretchin on a Hobgoblin, Crag Hack on an Angel, Octavia with the rest of the meat (Angels, Arbalests, Wisps, Wolves, Pikemen). And one blue Valeska on up to 10 Archangels.:eek: Tazar runs, without getting distracted by the center's temptations, takes the Shield from the Arch Devils (result: Attack 1, Defense 23), hits the GO, attacks Gretchin and then immediately Valeska. Lim gets nervous and asks for a transfer. Five archangels, more than a minute on the timer, Tazar has movement points:)
Thanks for the game!
P.S. I checked that the opponents have Mage Guilds in three towns and also all without Slow) Most likely Octavia learned it from Gundula on d1d21.
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08/25/2013 Ayauhteotl (red, Swamp, Tazar, Tazar) + Lim4 (brown, Rampart, Kirr, Kirr) def rebellious (blue, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) + Stizko (green, Stronghold, Kragg Hack, Kragg Hack), Teamwork, 122
Where did these girls come from??? They are crushing everyone:smile13:
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25.08.2013 Ayauhteotl (red, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar) + Lim4 (brown, Rampart, Kyrre, Kyrre) def rebellious (blue, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) + Stizko (green, Citadel, Crag Hack, Crag Hack), Teamwork, 122
Actually, I'll say it right away: big fi to the organizers for permissiveness in the draw and ignoring the appeal on this matter. This is about the travesty when, for our pair, 4 games in a row on the bracket fall under playing as the blue color. And the organizer still decided to change nothing. And this is for small templates where color is decisive. (And this considering the results of the previous tournament, where the red color here absolutely dominates, and blue only won due to throws or fatal mistakes). Essentially, the color decided this game too. Had we had the first turn, Tazar, who was also standing on the speed point but near his Citadel, would have been the sacrifice. Well, and our own mega blunder: two super-bosses at the Citadel - Valeska with 6 Archangels, with an unequipped(!) Cup and Shield 4*4, Crag with an Angel, plus 6 Angels next to him and a purse on the scout hero. And one cannot fail to note the opponents' super-perceptiveness: based on just two Lizard dwellings at Tazar and a Gnoll dwelling in the prefab, the Stable and the Gauntlets, and without visibility of the main hero's experience gain locations, they still decided to play. Thanks for the game.
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rebellious
Actually, I'll say it right away: a big thank you to the organizers for allowing such a thing in the draw and ignoring the appeal regarding this. I'm talking about the outrage when, for our pair in the 4 branch, the blue color is chosen for the game four times in a row. And the organizer still decided not to change anything. And this is for small templates, where color is crucial. (And this is taking into account the results of the previous tournament, where red absolutely dominated here, and blue only won through forfeits or fatal mistakes).
Nothing like that. I believe your claims are completely unfounded, and I also strongly disagree that color is crucial. Therefore, I didn't change anything and I'm not going to.
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Who will Team-A play against? Dirty asked the question on ICQ, but there was no response. They played their last game almost a month ago.
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Dirty_Player
Nothing like that. I believe your claims are completely unfounded, and I also strongly disagree with the idea that color is the deciding factor. Therefore, I didn't change anything and have no intention of doing so.
You can believe whatever you want (because I can also believe that the organizer deliberately arranged four games in a row with blue as the color, especially since there could have been an in-person meeting). Especially without any arguments. It is especially important to consider that if the organizer is also participating in the tournament, they cannot objectively perceive the situation and should definitely listen to outside opinions. It's a case of "I do what I want." In this case, the human factor was revealed, namely laziness and unwillingness to finalize the draw (in the previous tournament, the colors were somehow arranged appropriately). The organizer's position is especially unclear, given the statistics from the previous tournament, where red is the dominant color among the winners. And simply ignoring (or not understanding?) the fact that in an L-shaped map without a dungeon, color is the most important factor (at least he could have looked at the red rush strategy, which is a very relevant parallel).
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shameonyou
Who should Team-A play against? Dirty asked this in ICQ, but there was no answer. We played our last game almost a month ago.
I didn't receive anything from you in ICQ. I updated the table; you don't have any opponents yet.

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rebellious
You can consider anything (because I can also consider that the organizer deliberately put 4 games in a row with the blue color in the thread, especially since there could have been an in-person meeting). Especially without arguments.
The arguments are simple. The table is drawn in advance, and the participants are entered into it by lot. In the Jebus tournament, all the colors are also assigned immediately. What's wrong with that?
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It is especially important to consider that if the organizer participates in the tournament himself, then he cannot objectively perceive the situation and should definitely listen to an outside opinion. "What I want, I get," as they say.
An opinion from a participant is not considered an outside opinion, because he is also an interested party.
rebellious
In this case, the human factor manifested itself, namely laziness and unwillingness to complete the draw (in the previous tournament, the colors were somehow arranged adequately).
And in the previous tournament, the colors were also arranged initially, and then the participants were entered.
rebellious
The organizer's position is especially unclear, given the statistics from the previous tournament, where red dominates among the winners.
Tell me about the statistics. In the previous tournament, in the final stage, the color was determined by a coin toss. So, all the participants who had the right to choose the color chose BLUE! What do you think is the reason?
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And simply ignoring (or not understanding?) the fact that on the L-shaped map, without a Dungeon, the color is exactly what dominates over all other factors (at least look at the red rush topic, the parallel is very appropriate).
I don't think the color matters. Personally, our team is ready to play with any color.
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08/25/2013 Ayauhteotl (red, Swamp, Tazar, Tazar) + Lim4 (brown, Rampart, Kirr, Kirr) def rebellious (blue, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) + Stizko (green, Citadel, Crag Hack, Crag Hack), Teamwork, 122
Yes, it turned out to be an interesting game. We were planning to go for 121, but Tazar spent 3 turns buying a spellbook. :D Standing at the Gate on 121 was nerve-wracking.
Well, and one cannot fail to note the exceptional insight of the opponents.
Unfortunately, it's an undeserved compliment. I think that truly insightful players would have definitely gone for the rush, suspecting 5 conscripts from the opponents and imagining how many archers they could get.

As for the colors... if everyone goes for 121, the advantage of red boils down to the fact that it can take away some of the bonuses from blue. And at the same time, it can put itself at a disadvantage. Plus, red has more difficulties with mana regeneration.
If we talk specifically about our game, the color didn't matter much. You, being blue, had Valeska with excellent stats, and she was rushing for 122. This was a huge risk; without Valeska's rush, Tazar would have had serious problems.
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Dirty_Player


The arguments are simple. The bracket is drawn up in advance, and the participants are placed into it by lot. In a Jebus Cross tournament, all colors are also assigned immediately. What's wrong with that?
And what does "wrong" have to do with it, and who exactly said that? And what relevance does it have to color distribution at all? What prevented distributing the colors evenly? And in the second column of the bracket (where 1/8 is), all that was needed was to set the order as blue-red-red-blue... But you ignored my message about this.

Dirty_Player
A vote from a participant is not considered a vote from an outside party, because they are also an interested party.
A vote from a participant is a vote from the other side. To compensate and rein in the one and only. But you don't take that into account either. And on top of everything, you admit that you are an interested party with an absolute majority vote.
Dirty_Player
Go ahead, tell me about the statistics.
I'll tell the lazy ones about the statistics. 5-1 in group A and 5-2 in group B in favor of reds. Moreover, all of blue's wins were due to their extremely lucky draws. And you manipulate, and you even dared to call the final part statistics, where 4 games took place and one more had a forfeit (the data isn't even reflected in the report). Of the remaining ones — 3-1 in favor of blue. I note again that blue had a very lucky draw in one game (a scout hero behind the dwarves at respawn, 12 angels in conservatories, a village near the ГО immediately, and at the ГО itself — trolls against a horde of efreets for the opponent). And red's second loss was due to a major fail — losing (overwriting) the main hero in the tavern in a practically won game. Thus, even here, reds are still on top. If you're going to shuffle facts, do it skillfully, backing it up with specifics.
Dirty_Player
In the last tournament, in the final part, the color was decided by a coin toss. So, all the participants who got the right to choose the color all picked BLUE! Why do you think that is?
And this is a mega-argument... again in favor of the reds! Blues hoped to win on restarts, but didn't study the statistics (in this case, for the L-U template, which apparently doesn't even exist), and which would have ultimately led them to ruin, because red's first move turns out to be more significant in practice.
Dirty_Player
I don't think color matters. Personally, our team is ready to play as any color.
That's just a personal opinion. But as an organizer, you cannot ignore remarks about screw-ups in the draw, which should provide opportunities for all players. And if the color issue is specified in the rules and regulations, then it matters.

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As for colors... if everyone goes to 121, red's advantage comes down to the fact that they can eat into some of blue's cookies.
But you didn't use that advantage; you used another, unmentioned one — to attack the opponent's similarly leveled hero. And that is much more serious — main heroes are cut off from treasure zones for at least a day. And here there turned out to be two of them.
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And at the same time, they can set themselves up. Plus, red has more trouble with mana regen.
Someone always sets themselves up, regardless of color. And regarding mana, it's kind of situational.
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Speaking specifically about our game, color decided absolutely nothing. With you, even though you were blue, Valya with excellent development was standing on the crossroads at 122. That was a huge risk, without Valya's development, Tazar would have had serious problems.
Now you've inadvertently noted red's first-move advantage yourself. And quite significantly. And the scout hero didn't run for cookies deep into the treasure zone (they didn't break the guard at the treasure zone fork for further scouting). No, the scout hero was sent towards our respawn solely to possibly find developed heroes near the ГО, because running a whole turn just for one shield isn't great. And then there was also Crag, who looked even more interesting than Valya.
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08/25/2013 Ayauhteotl (red, Swamp, Tazar, Tazar) + Lim4 (brown, Rampart, Kirr, Kirr) def rebellious (blue, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) + Stizko (green, Stronghold, Kragg Hack, Kragg Hack), Teamwork, 122
Wow, what a great performance! He wanted to buy a book for 3 days but kept forgetting! MY SCHOOL (and Sema)!:D
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I haven't received anything from you on ICQ. I've updated the table; you don't have any opponents yet.


Well, maybe it didn't go through; I sent it offline, and I've heard that happens sometimes.
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