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I've updated the playoff bracket. u2noob vs Slayzer, Lem vs The_, and Lim4 vs Iamsamstan played quickly. Excellent! Lim4
This playoff bracket is just ridiculous.
Believe me, Lim4, playing with a friend is much more enjoyable than playing with someone you dislike... Even in a knockout tournament... You can consider yourself lucky so far with your opponents if you perceive a match with Sam as an insult.
Two more pairs are in progress: cuc9ctblu vs glhf and shameonyou vs Diabler.
I'm very interested in what's happening with: GUNAR vs Grizvald RoninHW vs Stratte nitro43 vs MuLLIyTa Please tell us about it on the forum. Isn't it time to make some substitutions? We have people who want to play.
Nitro
13 years ago
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It was my fault that our pair performed poorly. We will definitely complete the tour within the allotted time.
Grizvald
13 years ago
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We exchanged messages with the opponent on August 3rd and 4th, but we couldn't play due to my fault. Then the opponent disappeared for a week, after which we agreed on any time on August 11th, but the opponent didn't wait for me, even though I was online from 7:20 PM Moscow time. As a result, we agreed to play today after 6 PM Moscow time... That's how it went.
I am very interested in what is happening with: GUNAR vs Grizvald RoninHW vs Stratte nitro43 vs MuLLIyTa I kindly ask you to tell us about this on the forum. Isn't it time to make replacements? We have people willing to play.
The first game is on me, the second is on a save at the end of the third week if I'm not mistaken. There won't be time to finish on weekdays, but I think we'll finish on the weekend
Added after 29 minutes 10.08.2013 Stratte ( Red, Rampart, Ivor, Kyrre) def RoninHW (Blue, Castle, Caitlin) 114 2sm4d(3) game 1
111 The spawn was amazing, Kyrre came, right from the start 23 elves! Never had that many come before, I immediately take the pre-max crypt and set up under the second one. On the respawn there's the Mantle of Abandonment, a cloak for necro, in general everything's good, we play) 112 I scout further into the respawn, found stables, a cube behind the Manticores. Kyrre takes the second pre-max crypt and sets up to break through to the secondary on the snow. 113 Broke through the guard, ran a bit into the depths of the snow respawn, continue collecting goodies at home. Found a Griffin Conservatory 114 Took the tower, I turn Kyrre back, while planning to clear the goodies along the road. I skip a turn - the opponent surrenders. His respawn turned out to be terrible, he tried to make a rep on meeting, but lost, too bad. GG WP thanks for the game.
Pit for LM
13 years ago
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Regarding the little sub-tournament "New Players" vs "Legends and Myths".
I'll reveal some organizational secrets. The tournament happened thanks to our lead, Nestor Petrovich. He read about prize games with the "fathers" (vets), which Cash had once tried to organize a long time ago. To be fair, back then only one newcomer took the chance. Then Anton started pressuring me, like "come on, let's do it." The idea arose to make more games. Our "fathers" responded wholeheartedly and with interest.
We thought about the regulations for a long time and argued a lot. Points in the team tournament. I had the thought of giving newcomers more than 1 point for a victory. You can write whatever you want; it's not a difficult task. I put myself in the shoes of the NP captain. Right now, our score is 20-1. Would the newcomers feel better if I wrote 20-2? And what if, for example, there were 20 games—13 wins for LM and 7 wins for NP? Would we then write the score as 13-14 in favor of NP? If I were the newcomer captain, I would refuse such a handicap. I would feel ashamed and strange telling the viewers and fans that my team won by some mystical means, despite winning only 35% of the games. In sports, there should be equal opportunities from the start. The newcomers already had a privileged position—they chose their opponents, the template, and the color. That is already quite a lot.
Regarding bonus points. By giving 1.5 points for a victory in the group, we proceeded from the fact that a victory over LM would be slightly harder to achieve than over opponents from the group. Lim4
...The only thing is, I think it's most unfair for Rockmachine, as it's precisely because of this innovation that he didn't make it out of the group, so I'll join The_'s suggestion regarding points for wins and draws.
Oh, this is a philosophical topic. One could write an essay titled "Reflections on the Utility of Auto-wins." Rockmachine didn't make it out of the group not because of the innovation. Rockmachine
...During the game, I gave my opponent 3 autos, during which he offered me the victory...
The result—a loss of 0.5 points.u2noob
Ivor races down the road increasing stats and collecting artifacts... while losing, but the generous opp gives an auto... Since I took the auto, we agreed on a draw.
The result + 1 point. A cruel lesson. Generally, I don't see any connection between nobility and giving autos :confused: , although I cannot condemn Javdet; I would have offered a newcomer myself if it made sense... I also feel bad for the player who gave 3 (three!!!) autos and as a result gave up a playoff spot to a player who received an auto... So, the tournament regulations have absolutely nothing to do with it.
Perhaps it makes sense to consider that a game with LM only matters in the event of an equal number of points scored in the group, serving as an additional criterion after the head-to-head and personal meeting. i.e., results with LM wouldn't be counted in the group at all. The_
...it's a pity that an interesting game against the beast didn't happen because of a stupid throw or even a series of throws =(.
Yes, I also noticed that one of the main mistakes of newcomers is taking an impossibly high and unrealistic pace for themselves. You play according to the opponent, not according to your own capabilities. Iamsamstan
Fourth, in the process of getting to know them, you realize that they are normal people, without all sorts of hang-ups (I confess, it seemed that way to me before, but I won't think like that anymore :smile38: )
I'll confess too... :smile41: Funny, the newcomers also turned out to be normal people :eek: , and not clones and cheaters, from whom we now reflexively recoil :smile11: Iamsamstan
And finally, I would like them to promise, at least sometimes (well, once a week there :rolleyes: ) to play funkies with us, with a report of course :D , can you promise that?
Even if rarely... even once a week... to see you in our village... Hard to promise, but it seems to me that some connections have formed... Just ping them :smile02: The_
Another idea came up, still raw. Basically, the essence is that within the framework of the LM vs NP tournament, along with the newcomer, for example in a Skype conference, one of the LM representatives watches/advises, but does not play for the newcomer, but points out some mistakes, teaches the subtleties of the game, maybe suggests some game plan. Perhaps such a bonus should be given not to all newcomers, but for example only to those who scored three or more points in the group, or to the top three winners. If this idea could be refined and implemented, it would be wonderful and very interesting.
Ideas are floating in the air... About a month ago, one of our orgs suggested something similar to me. It should be mentioned here (besides what HellLighT wrote) that the guys who play Heroes well are quite successful in real life. Many have interesting jobs, their own firms, families... There are real fathers, and even repeat ones. I reckoned that in total, the LM team players might have more children than there are players on the team. They have lives to attend to. Therefore, these people generally prefer participation over observation. Personally, I wouldn't take on running such a tournament primarily because I don't even know which of the "fathers" would agree to it. And I myself don't want to "manage" in Skype; the time limit wouldn't allow for detailed advice, and in a few words, there's no particular point. I think it's more useful to analyze the match after the game and then—independent work on mistakes.
The first game is mine, the second is on a save at the end of the third week if I'm not mistaken. There won't be time to finish during the week, but I think we'll finish on the weekend
Added after 29 minutes 10.08.2013 Stratte ( Red, Rampart, Ivor, Kyrrya) def RoninHW (Blue,Castle, Caitlin) 114 2sm4d(3) game 1
111 Got a fantastic random spawn, Kyrrya arrived, from the very start 23 elves! Never had that many appear before, I immediately take the pre-max crypt and position myself under the second. On the respawn there's a Mantle of Abdication, a necromancer's cloak, overall everything is good, we play) 112 I scout further into the respawn, found stables, a cube behind the Manticores. Kyrrya takes the second pre-max crypt and positions herself to break through the secondary on the snow. 113 Broke through the guard, ran a bit deeper into the snow respawn, continue collecting loot at home. Found a Griffin Conservatory 114 Took the tower, turn Kyrrya back around, while planning to collect loot along the road. Skip a turn - enemy concedes. His respawn turned out to be terrible, tried to make a comeback at meeting, but got crushed, too bad. GG WP thanks for the game.
I confirm. The respawn on 111 looked promising: a Griffin Conservatory nearby, a decent necromancer, starting army. On 112 I already realized I made a mistake not taking the last rest 111. Small territory among the rocks and I lacked the experience to understand that the shifted GO blocks a part of the respawn with goodies, like the Griffin Conservatory and a wood mine (I only saw this when analyzing the saves). Tried to make a comeback at meeting, but 45+ griffins Archer punished. Thanks for the game!
Lost Luna. Went around burning everything I wanted, then in another monotonous fight with Luna I lost concentration and got killed :) . Gundula levels up great - earth-logic tactics. 3 Hives at the respawn totalling 26 Wyverns, no special relics, there are 2 Griffin Conservatories 2+1. On 123 with double mana and 12 portal-brought birds I break the Archangels, then take wings +4 and +3 all, Gladius, Bible, Red Orb, several Pandora's Boxes for experience. Decide to attack the opponent in the castle instead of going further to fatten up - still have in reserve a Helm +10-2, a Chalice, a Pandora for devils for all magic (as I expected), having previously cleared a Pandora for a group of Angels. Hoped for all magic or at least level 5 - the guard is decent, or for the army, but there's our beloved 20 thousand experience. Already have plenty of experience. Attack Tazar in the castle. The stats there aren't great, but the army is almost twice as big. The stats carried me through, along with a bit of luck that poison didn't get through to me. Thanks for the game.
Luna gave out. I went around burning everything I wanted, then in another monotonous fight with Luna I lost concentration and was killed :) . Gundula levels up great - earth Loga tactic. 3 Hives total on the resp for 26 Wyverns, no relics in particular, there are 2 Griffin Conservatories 2+1. On 123 with double mana and 12 teleported birds I break the archers, then take wings +4 and +3 all, gladius, bible, red orb, several Pandora's Boxes for experience. I decide to attack the opponent in the castle instead of going further to fatten up - I still have the helmet +10-2, the kettle, Pandora's Box for devils with all magic (as I expected), after first beating the Pandora behind a group of angels. I was hoping for all magic or at least lvl 5 - the guard is okay, or for the army, and there we have our beloved 20 thousand experience. Already have plenty of experience. I attack tazar in the castle. The stats aren't great, but the army is almost twice as big. The stats carried me, as well as a bit of luck in the form that poison didn't get through to me. Thanks for the game.
Luna didn't give out so well, only 2 hives on the entire resp, and the Griffin Conservatory was deep in the resp. The only thing that made me happy was all 4 books on the resp, I took КЗ. On 125 I break through ГО in the form of archers and devils. However I just mindlessly lose an angel. Then I made another mistake, ate the hive instead of sitting in town to replenish mana and taking the Dragon Utopias. Instead I had to lose a turn and spend the night in the castle, where I was caught by the opponent. 6 birds, 3 angels and 30 Wyverns vs 40 upgraded Wyverns, 5 Hydras and 2 angels. There was a slight advantage in army, but when gundula has 30 attack vs 13 defense of tazar, you can't really fight much. Thanks for the game)
Grizvald
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15.08.2013 Grizvald (red, Swamp, Tazar, Tazar) def GUNAR (blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) 8mm6a, 146. Game 1 There was one rest left, but I spotted a Griffin Conservatory at the respawn - we play. Roads are average.
First week: meat situation is bleak, no money, I ran with 4 heroes, but I spotted two more Griffin Conservatories at the respawn, killed my native Rampart computer on turn 115. Sacrificed all the Gnolls... As it turned out, I chose a somewhat wrong direction, thinking I was running toward the center, but as it turned out, it was my corner, and the second passage to the computer was through the central zone via wasteland.
Second week: broke into my corner treasure zone, got a quest necklace of +1 speed, took a village, and on turn 123 Tazar with refilled mana charged straight into a Dragon Fly Hive, but forgot the Dragon Flies in the village xD Dawdled for a day, brought the Dragon Flies, took a mini Dragon Fly Hive, army: 9 Dragon Flies, 4 Champions, and 22 Lizardmen... On turn 126 I decided to bust through 50+ Vampires for a Pandora's Box and an Imp Statue. Ended up with about 68 of them, got wiped to zero, leaving 9 Vampires. Decided to finish them off with reinforcements, but the morale penalty is very harsh.
Third week: broke the Vampires, got 10k gold, ran further, got rings 1/1 morale and luck, by the way Tazar got luck as his second skill! On turn 132 I run Tazar toward the first Griffin Conservatory. On turn 133 I check - it's a one, great, take it. Then I successively grab the remaining Conservatories at the respawn - both twos. Broke through to the center (tempo :D) sent a scout hero. From the scout's vision I saw the opponent's village. With Tazar I decide to go finish the treasure zone.
Fourth week: I send Tazar into a Conservatory in the treasure zone, it's a maximum, great. Then I run, took a Dragon Fly Hive, and went into a Dragon Utopia. The Dragon Utopia is a one, artifacts gave me so-so - a Red Orb (had no stats for it), Angel Feather Arrows (!), and two useless artifacts. Then I run to the second Dragon Utopia - a two. Army: 9 Angels, 21 Dragon Flies, 13 Grand Champions, a few Dragon Flies, and 100 Lizardmen (60 were given in a Pandora's Box for Wizards). Meanwhile, the opponent took my main town and ran to take my Rampart. Took the Dragon Utopia two, got a few stats. Then I break into a village and run to take back my main town, the opponent has no control, has decent stats, but I caught up in that regard. Built a Grail building lvl 2 in the village, got a Bolt, have a Helm of +10 Knowledge. Tazar runs to the metro, I build an Artifact Market in the village, and face a choice: either buy a Sphere of Air, or the two missing artifacts for the Sniper's Bow. I chose the Bow, because Shakti's spell power was low, so the Lizardmen stack will dish out damage nicely. On turn 146 I broke the opponent's chain while reinforcing a small army, and Shakti attacks. First round: oil and shooting down the opponent. Oil also flies back, Bolts fly into the Lizardmen, but with luck they wreck things as needed. Finally, Haste on the Angels, I charge into melee - surrender follows.
