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HiddenHorror

2/13/2007 9:46 AM UTC

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In my opinion, bone dragons are better than devils. 1) Dragons have more melee defense and even more ranged defense. 2) They have more speed. 3) The aura of fear + the first strike = no retaliation. Moreover, the remaining creatures will no longer be able to attack the bone dragons (or almost not), the dragons will attack first again and inflict fear. 4) Dragons look better than demons.

Пандора

2/13/2007 9:51 AM UTC

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The last argument is simply devastating. But the Devil seems to be faster than a Bone Dragon. And Bone Dragons also have protection against arrows. It seems like it's difficult to shoot at them... probably because they're made of bones :)

HiddenHorror

2/13/2007 10:13 AM UTC

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Yeah. Arrows fly right through me.

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Zdob

2/14/2007 7:14 PM UTC

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HiddenHorror;67338

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3) Aura of Fear + first strike = no retaliation. Moreover, the remaining living units will no longer be able to attack the bone dragons (almost not), the dragons will attack first again and apply fear))))
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However, there is also a downside to this!
The ranged unit that moved back can still shoot! And that deals more damage than when it's close to the enemy!:cool:
And yet, in the list of the most useful, I would include... the peasant, the leprechaun, and the satyr! :D :cool:

HMM4 The Gathering Storm : BEST!:cool:

Shark

2/14/2007 7:58 PM UTC

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I think that elven archers are more useful. They deal significant damage.

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Black dragons are also good; they are resistant to everything.

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BASON

2/14/2007 8:32 PM UTC

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Zdob;67746

There's also a downside to this!
The archer who has moved away can shoot again! And that deals more damage than when he is close to the enemy!:cool:
But still, in the list of the most useful, I would include... the peasant, the leprechaun, and the satyr! :D :cool:

Should we take your opinion into account for such a list?
1. Peasant
2. Leprechaun
3. Satyr

HiddenHorror

2/15/2007 6:19 AM UTC

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2 Zdob

There's also a downside to this!
The archer who has moved away can shoot again! And that deals more damage than when he is close to the enemy!

Bone dragons have 60 ranged defense (damage = attack/defense*damage). And if the defense skill is maxed out, the defense will be 90. IMHO, it's better if they shoot.

Zdob

2/15/2007 11:33 AM UTC

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And it's not a given that they'll shoot at each other!:o After all, you can still find someone else on the battlefield! And the undead don't care about fear at all (a ballista - since we're considering archers, and a dragon golem - are worthy competitors! Conclusion: a pile of bones on the floor!:D)! :D
As for useful units, I think blessers are great! :cool:

HMM4 The Gathering Storm : BEST!:cool:

Пандора

2/15/2007 7:48 PM UTC

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And still, I think skeletons are better. I’ve mentioned somewhere that if you play as Necropolis, it’s better to have dragons in your castle and summon devils on the battlefield (this is just my subjective opinion that Nature is a better skill to develop for Necropolis).

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Vihja Drow

2/15/2007 8:10 PM UTC

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1. Magic Dragon:p
2. Vampire:smile24:
3. Tigra (the first strike, and it's always difficult to defeat them):cool:
and a Thief easily gets an advantage thanks to a hero with 3 levels of stealth, but that's not the point((

Я вернулась... :smile24:
Ну что, не ждали? :smile08:
Пусть за нас говорит сталь! :smile13:

Пандора

2/16/2007 9:33 AM UTC

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Black dragons are pretty cool too, they don't care about anything.

Yeah, they sometimes don't even care about their own.

And yet, in the list of the most useful, I would mention... the peasant, the leprechaun, and the satyr!

Then, yes, list a bunch of them, and the troll too! They're cool guys, especially when there are many of them! Regeneration just flows like a river. I was convinced of this again last night.

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OptiMAL

2/16/2007 10:14 AM UTC

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Pandora;68048

Yeah, sometimes they don't even care about their own troops.

That's true:D. You can easily trick the Black Dragons by sending all your troops to the front line (towards the enemy). Just move them strategically. When the troops meet in close combat, the dragons will have to attack both their own and the enemy's troops:)

:D

Пандора

2/16/2007 10:23 AM UTC

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That's absolutely true. You can easily trick the Black Dragons by sending all your troops to the front line (towards the enemy). Just move them strategically. When the troops meet in close combat, the dragons will have to attack both their own and the enemy's units.

And there it is... There is no perfection in this world. One thing is not like another. Even the strongest level 4 unit has its drawbacks!

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OptiMAL

2/16/2007 10:28 AM UTC

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Therefore, the conclusion is: the Champion of Darkness is not just useful, but powerful. It is renowned for its strength and anti-magic abilities.

:D

Пандора

2/16/2007 10:39 AM UTC

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I didn't consider it useful, by the way. Where could it be useful if it consumes so many economic resources? It is strong, that's true. I'm not arguing that. And no one will...

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