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#4958
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Oh yes, and could you ask Hossi not to use insults? We have a decent community here, after all.
Insults? No, I haven't insulted anyone yet :3 Just warming up. But are we going to ignore the fact that someone here is resorting to their pathetic vocabulary and demagoguery instead of discussing things? The Mafia is completely out of it, Vespers says it's not their fault - and lol, they're still trying to deny it, even though smart people are telling the truth. Well, what can you do. And the Mafia really played poorly and without any substance, there was no calculation of options, no good gameplay during the day, especially from the aforementioned "ololo-person." So who's the judge here? And now, the only way to win is through sheer audacity, which immediately reveals the level of INT.
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#4959
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I won't argue with their experience; they know best.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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#4960
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Girl, there would be something to put up with, lol.
So much attention to my humble person, Oooooo, don't stop! *laughing hysterically*
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Nyashechka Kavai
Should we just ignore the fact that someone is resorting to their poor vocabulary and demagoguery instead of engaging in a discussion? The Mafia team is completely out of it, Vesper says it's not their fault – and lol, they're even trying to defend themselves when smart people are telling the truth. Well, what can you do. The Mafia team really played poorly and without any substance, there was no calculation of options, no game during the day, especially from the aforementioned "ololo" person. So, who is the judge here? Right now, you can only get ahead by being brazen, but the level of INT is immediately apparent.

Demagoguery instead of discussion is indeed not good.

Now, let's get to the point. I will allow myself to give a small comment in connection with the quoted message and some other messages related to the past game.

1) The Mafia team did play weakly, but not as terribly as some claim (provoking the very "whining" that they "don't <3"). They were, of course, able to count the votes, but the fact is that an unusual situation arose, in which votes could be gathered for two executions in one day, which is a kind of break in the pattern. This is where the miscalculation came from. A little bit of constructive feedback: to avoid such situations, you can count a double vote as a single vote in the case when it votes in the minority (physically). Then such draws will become impossible, and the result will be either NNV (no new votes), or the execution of one character.

2) Regarding the assessments of the Mafia game, such as "they didn't calculate anything, they didn't do anything." It's easy to say from the outside, but it's not entirely true. We calculated quite a lot, and many things were correct, but we made an important mistake: we incorrectly identified who was who among the Affects. And that's what cost us the game, I think; the voting on the next day no longer had any effect, because, according to the additional rule I mentioned above, a Mafia member would have been hanged anyway. Well, as for the daytime game... yes, I agree, it was generally disappointing.

3) I think everyone who wants to will draw their own conclusions from the game. And squabbles are unnecessary.

Thank you all.
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#4963
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Reasonable posts are always a good thing. It's just that some people shouldn't blame the lack of luck/bad luck for their losses. From the outside, it looks like nothing more than...

Maybe we should open the actual Mafia thread? Not everyone has signed up yet, and I think some people want to, but in the end, they have to post here.
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#4964
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Let's take the cancellation of the execution as an example. Everyone can see who the Mafia is. And as a result, we have what we have. The Mafia relied on the town, which was already leaning towards the Mafia.
If the Mafia had accepted the execution without making a fuss, the Raven would have had a good chance of surviving and killing a town member. If it had worked, the Mafia would have mistakenly killed the second town member, and the game would continue with 2 Mafia members and 3 votes, plus 2 Mafia members.
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Mestear
lac/unlac.

The luck factor, of course, also influenced the outcome of the game. But Lady Luck helped both sides in this game approximately equally. We were unlucky in two moments: 1) at the beginning, we were watching Envy and killed her, not letting her complete her task, and therefore not getting any information; 2) the random element in Panic's ultimate ability was not very favorable. But otherwise, we were lucky.

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Nyashechka Kavai
If the mafia had accepted the execution without a fuss, the crow would have had a good chance to survive and kill a peaceful player. If it had triggered, the maniacs would have mistakenly killed the second peaceful player, and the game would have continued with 2 mafia and 3 votes, and 2 maniacs.

In my opinion, the mafia lost the game even before the execution incident. Yes, the scenario described was possible, but at that point, one could only rely on the infamous luck. Well, with the cancellation of the execution, there was also some kind of plan to win, but I didn't really understand/remember it.
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#4966
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Shamrock Rover
The luck factor, of course, also influenced the outcome of the game. But Lady Luck helped both sides in this game approximately equally. We were unlucky in two moments: 1) at the beginning, we focused on Envy and killed her, not letting her complete her quest, and therefore not receiving information; 2) the random element in Panic's ultimate ability was not very favorable. Otherwise, we were lucky.
And I went to Fortress twice, and constantly bad luck prevented me from recruiting him... Well, you understand. It was also sad.
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#4967
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And I tried to kill Redbeard twice :(
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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#4968
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Siverfale
I tried to kill Redbeard twice :(
Get your revenge, kill him next time right at the beginning.
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#4969
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Nyashechka Kavai
If the Mafia had carried out the execution quietly, the Crow would have had a good chance of surviving and killing a peaceful player.
I considered Red to be a threat, so he had no chance of surviving...:D
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

(Закон сохранения).
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#4970
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As soon as the "Kaer Morhen" (The Witcher forum) is back online, within half an hour (after that), I will be able to open the gaming thread.


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#4971
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And approximately when will this happen?
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#4972
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Roughly when will this happen?
I have no idea :) It depends on how quickly they get their server up and running. If they take too long to fix it, I'll open a thread without some of the images and literary descriptions (but I'd rather not).


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#4973
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Maybe I should create one then? Then there's a higher chance that they'll fix it in the meantime, and you'll be able to create a full-fledged thread.
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