"King of the Hill" — Tournament History online

PReDS

4/15/2013 8:06 AM UTC

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Wicc

That presentation is bleak and lacks information; in many ways, it's actually incorrect.

Regarding "ate the value" — that's nonsense, nobody eats the value; it is evenly spread across the respawn with the density specified in the rmg. The presence of a Dragon Utopia on the respawn simply means that a Dragon Utopia was generated from the higher range (10K-15K), which does not affect the lower ranges. If the respawn is small, there is usually 1 object from the higher range, most often it's a Dragon Utopia/hive+something/major+something/6-7dwell+something.

That's just what you think, but Cap knows the truth!

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Captain

4/15/2013 8:27 AM UTC

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Sav

Can I have a link? I've explored quite a lot in the GSK, it would be interesting to read this kind of information.

http://heroes.ag.ru/h3/rmg/smedstad.zip

Vik, have you fallen back into your favorite habit again—speaking first and thinking later?
Given: a small respawn—one super object on it (Dragon Utopia)—which means there is no confluence, no hive, and no good artifact.
Right?
So my value was eaten by the Dragon Utopia?

Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.

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PReDS

4/15/2013 8:46 AM UTC

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Captain

http://heroes.ag.ru/h3/rmg/smedstad.zip

Vik, have you fallen back into your favorite habit again—speaking first and thinking later?
Given: a small respawn—one super object on it (Dragon Utopia)—which means there is neither a confluence nor a hive nor any good artifacts.
Right?
So my value was eaten up by the Dragon Utopia?

Vik wrote to you in plain text that the presence of a Dragon Utopia has no effect on the presence/absence of confluences, because these are objects from different value ranges: the Dragon Utopia is 10K (I don't remember exactly), while the confluence is 2K, except perhaps for the fact that it takes up many cells, but it's unlikely your respawn was that small. As for the presence of hives/majors, yes, it does affect them.

PReDS

4/15/2013 9:05 AM UTC

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Captain

Then why are you flooding here?

explain to me, a simpleton, the meaning of this phrase:

Captain

There is Dragon Utopia there (which means she devoured all the value of my resp)!

Sav

4/15/2013 10:10 AM UTC

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Captain

http://heroes.ag.ru/h3/rmg/smedstad.zip

Thank you. Overall, it inspires confidence, as much of it aligns with what I've seen myself. There's not much specific detail, but that doesn't matter much to me personally; I can find the specific details myself. What's more important is that it explains how the mechanisms work in general.
I noticed only one significant error: it states that distance = sqrt(area/density) (this refers to the minimum distance between groups of objects in a zone). In reality, this distance is equal to sqrt(800/density) for any land zone and sqrt(1600/density) for water zones.

Maretti

4/15/2013 3:56 PM UTC

15.04.2012 Maretti (red, castle, caitlin, galthran) def Captain (blue, ramp, ivor) jebus, 126

Very hard struggle. Got Galthran and Vido day 1 so could make a decent amount of skells, but had no cons, only 3 min hives and 1 cav dwell. Went for a tope at 124, but it was full and I had very low stats and no usefull magic (offered fire at 4 and 8 and took water at 12), so I lost alot of army there, but at least got soj, blue hat and wings. I had a 2nd town by the exit, but couldnt take it since the big block blocked it. Opponent showed in desert, I took out the block with Vido and bought Galthran there and then went for a hive and a box, but guards were 19 abs and the box gave 20 k gold, so I spent all my mana on it. Then opponent took the town by the exit and placed main there. Probably wanted mana since he was out, but couldnt get it since I had built tavern. Next round I visited a well and attacked. His army was much stronger but my 4 implos did the job. Thanks for playing.

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Сатир

4/15/2013 4:06 PM UTC

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Captain

http://heroes.ag.ru/h3/rmg/smedstad.zip

Vik, have you fallen back into your favorite habit again—speaking first and thinking later?
Given: a small respawn—one super object on it (Dragon Utopia)—which means there is no confluence, no hive, and no good artifact.
Right?
Does that mean my value was eaten by the Dragon Utopia?

The value of the confluence is like a chest+resources. Suddenly.

Upd. This doesn't mean that instead of 1 Dragon Utopia there could have been 6 confluences.

Не бійся коли ти один, бійся коли ти нуль.

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HellLighT

4/15/2013 4:08 PM UTC

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Marelli completely dominated with his skill.

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Dirty_Player

4/15/2013 4:08 PM UTC

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Satyr

It has the same carrying capacity as a chest, plus resources. Unexpected.

Well, it's hardly a secret that conscripts don't weigh much, so they're often left unguarded.

Juristis

4/15/2013 4:56 PM UTC

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Mareti is simply amazing; he pulled off a very difficult situation, and I take my hat off to him.

Redwhait

4/15/2013 5:10 PM UTC

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Please upload the save files from your latest game.

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Captain

4/15/2013 5:24 PM UTC

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Maretti

15.04.2012 Maretti (red, castle, caitlin, galthran) def Captain (blue, ramp, ivor) jebus, 126

Very hard struggle. Got Galthran and Vido day 1 so could make a decent amount of skells, but had no cons, only 3 min hives and 1 cav dwell. Went for a tope at 124, but it was full and I had very low stats and no usefull magic (offered fire at 4 and 8 and took water at 12), so I lost alot of army there, but at least got soj, blue hat and wings. I had a 2nd town by the exit, but couldnt take it since the big block blocked it. Opponent showed in desert, I took out the block with Vido and bought Galthran there and then went for a hive and a box, but guards were 19 abs and the box gave 20 k gold, so I spent all my mana on it. Then opponent took the town by the exit and placed main there. Probably wanted mana since he was out, but couldnt get it since I had built tavern. Next round I visited a well and attacked. His army was much stronger but my 4 implos did the job. Thanks for playing.Confirm.
On week 1, I cleared my entire respawn except for one remote spot with one Dragon Utopia and a couple of artifacts.
There was only one horse hideout on the whole respawn, not a single cons.
3 days to run from the Castle to ГО.
At 124, I break through the ГО consisting of 3 crystal dragons and take the village in the center. The opponent says it is his village and we need to reload. We reload, and this time mass-slow works on one dragon, while the other two resist. As a result, all mana was spent. The next day, the opponent hits their ГО. From the army, he has 1 arch, 70 skeletons, 8 wights, 4 griffins, several spearmen and archers left. In one Dragon Utopia, he got wings, a +5 sword, and a hat for all 5 magic.
But after breaking through the ГО, he replenished his mana and an explosion of 1000+. I have 32 grands, 20 gr. lizards, 39 wights, 15 gr. pegasi, and 8 gr. horses.
Thanks for the game.

Saves: http://webfile.ru/6479701
passwords - red go
blue - 123

Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.

numOne

4/16/2013 3:04 AM UTC

■ Maretti (icq 581475607) — vs — ■ =Stinger= (icq 592635010)

Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.

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Dima Surmay

4/16/2013 3:36 AM UTC

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numOne

■ Maretti (icq 581475607) — vs — ■ =Stinger= (icq 592635010)

Stinger knew yesterday, right after Maretti's game with Captain, that he would be playing against Maretti.
Did the rules change, or was there some manipulation? Or maybe there are only 3 participants left?

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numOne

4/16/2013 3:49 AM UTC

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Dima Surmay

Stinger knew yesterday, immediately after Maretти's game with Captain, that he would be playing against Maretти.
Were the rules changed, or was there some manipulation? Or maybe there are only 3 participants left?

The next player is always chosen and notified immediately after the current pairing is announced. That is, I choose a player who is ready to play in the next game in advance (he must first confirm his participation, and he has 24 hours to do so), so that the tournament does not stall. As stated in the first post.

And of course, the player should not reveal his participation in advance. :)

Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.