Mafia 64. Albens Corvus — Mafia — Page 29

Registered: 9/13/2012

Posts: 8,339

#424 4/1/2013 3:53 PM UTC

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Sky

Now you can throw rotten tomatoes at me, Yaschur, or whatever you want to throw at me?

I think a dozen rotten eggs will be enough.:mad: :mad: :mad:

It is forbidden to disclose your own/someone else's role, or its elements, as well as information obtained about it, in public places or among players who are not in the same group as you. The same applies to information about other players. Phrases like "well, I also know something about him that I can't say" are a violation, regardless of whether you actually know something or are lying.
Statements like: "I checked," "according to my information, which I cannot disclose," "I know for sure," etc. are prohibited.

I don't remember mentioning anything about checking Shamrock and Vesper, hinting at the "long-standing" status, and the death of Curias. Even the word "certain" that I removed does not equal "I know for sure," but simply means "completely sure," which does not exclude the possibility of an error.:smile06:
At least the phrase

maf is definitely him

is essentially no different from

I was once wrongly accused based on fabricated evidence, comrade maf.

which you ignored. The only difference is that Shamrock was checked, and Hermit was not, but only you and I knew about it.:mad:

Unsubstantiated shouts like "he's MAF!" or "I'm a Townie!" are allowed.

Does anyone see any arguments here?

Evil Yaschur

Shamrock Rover is maf.
Hermit is more likely to be a Townie than maf.

Evil Yaschur

Today we'll hang Shamrock Rover, tomorrow VesperLindt. Although it could be the other way around. IMHO, they are both maf.

No? Me neither.:mad:
And now, pay attention, the question is: for what censored action was I given a modkill?:mad: :mad: :mad:

By the way, the maf completely revealed himself during my "attack" on Shamrock.
My list for checking after the 2nd day was as follows:

1. Mona (fortunately, I realized in time that she couldn't be maf and moved on in the list).
2. Vesper.
3. Neyra Drake.
4. Rudy.

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
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Registered: 7/16/2007

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#425 4/1/2013 3:57 PM UTC

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I think if Haven had a ranged unit, it would also rush me on the second day. Am I so bad that everyone wants my blood? :(

А, вот почему.

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Registered: 10/30/2009

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#426 4/1/2013 3:58 PM UTC

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For me, a blocker is more valuable than a healer. A real treasure!

Oh, you mean it that way? Well, I don't really care, they're all useful.
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My list for review after the 2nd day was as follows:

And I wasn't on that list?

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Registered: 9/13/2012

Posts: 8,339

#427 4/1/2013 4:05 PM UTC

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Ment

Wasn't I on that list?

Not funny.:mad:

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
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Registered: 3/19/2013

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#428 4/1/2013 4:07 PM UTC

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Ment didn't believe in me that much, thinking that the Mafia could block and kill the same person. ))
This is the first time I've seen such egoism from a doctor. )))

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#429 4/1/2013 4:09 PM UTC

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Not funny.

Why, when I joke, does everyone think I'm serious, and when I'm serious, they think I'm joking?

Ment didn't believe me so much that the Mafia could block and kill the same person. ))
It's the first time I've seen such egocentrism from a doctor. )))

And I didn't understand the point again.

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#430 4/1/2013 4:10 PM UTC

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Ment

Yeah, Yashur just went way overboard with his trolling.

Well... Everyone in the world was so sure that I was Nightshade that they immediately started voting for Shamrock at my command. :rolleyes: And Huntik and Hose also rushed to defend me. Both of them. :rolleyes:

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
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Registered: 3/19/2013

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#431 4/1/2013 4:16 PM UTC

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Ment

And again, I didn't understand the point.

There are two of them. ) I find it amusing when Mafia players reveal their plans to the townspeople, and the townspeople flatly refuse to understand them, no matter how much you try to explain. ))
You were great; after analyzing your comments, we decided that you don't have any NDs at all. ))

Registered: 12/20/2007

Posts: 35,881

#432 4/1/2013 4:23 PM UTC

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"стопроцентное" /= "точно знаю", it just means "one hundred percent sure"

"one hundred percent sure" = "I know for sure"

doesn't really differ from

It does differ. Because it was said in response to accusations of being a Mafia member. If Shamrock Rover had accused you of being a Mafia member, and you had responded with that same phrase, I wouldn't have even looked your way. But you immediately stated, after receiving the verification results, that the player who had neither behavior nor evidence against him was a one hundred percent Mafia member. Only someone who wasn't paying attention to the game and hadn't read the newspaper wouldn't have understood what your role was. Or at least, that you were one of the investigators. After the warning, you do almost the same thing again with another player. And you had already been exposed before. That's it.

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Registered: 10/6/2012

Posts: 309

#433 4/1/2013 4:26 PM UTC

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Malicious Lizard

Even the word "one hundred percent" that I removed doesn't equal "I know for sure," but simply means "one hundred percent sure," which doesn't exclude the possibility of error. :smile06:

I really don't know how 100% certainty can leave room for the possibility of error; in my opinion, "100%" is "certain."

And in the context, everything was clear; almost no one doubted it; people were just casting votes. There was no game. Coming, listening to how the role-checker is 100% sure about the Mafia status of so-and-so, and then voting for their execution – that's certainly pleasant and useful, right? And such a scenario demonstrates the well-developed intuition, ingenuity, logic, etc., of the infamous role-checker, BUT – this isn't "Mafia"; it's some other game (interesting only to the role-checker). That's my opinion.

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Regarding the game: thank you to the Host for the excellent setting and wonderful descriptions, and of course, for the whole game!

Thank you to the team for their cohesion and fighting spirit!

Thank you to the Town for their resistance and struggle, but I was, of course, too quickly locked in the tower. ;)

Thank you to Broikirvurlhu for the intrigue and skillful play!

P.S. I'm not very good at writing pompous speeches and post-game summaries; it turned out a bit awkward... if I offended anyone in the game or here, please forgive me.

And once again, thank you all! :smile01:

Registered: 9/13/2012

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#434 4/1/2013 4:44 PM UTC

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Sky

"стопроцентно уверен" = "точно знаю"

"Точно знаю" excludes the possibility of error, "стопроцентно уверен" does not. For example, a cop was "стопроцентно уверен" that Plesen was a serial killer. If I had said, "Shamrock is стопроцентно a mafia member, I swear on my head," then yes, that would be "точно знаю."

Sky

But after receiving the verification results, you immediately stated that the player, against whom there was neither behavior nor evidence, was стопроцентно a mafia member.

First, not immediately, but after Arandor's post about "mafia from newbies." It was a typical, classic provocation. The behavior of the teammates in response was sufficient to raise suspicion. For example, Vespers first "believes" me and votes for Shamrock, and before the end of the turn, SUDDENLY changes his vote to Ment. Isn't that grounds for accusing them of complicity? The fact that they are verified, only you know (as well as my role). Well, maybe the mafia suspects them too (and they had the means to "eliminate" me). For the rest, the options are:

1. Yaschur is a checker (quantity 3).
2. Yaschur is a serial killer who once redirected someone somewhere.
3. Yaschur is a mafia member, protecting the accomplices of Ment and Hermit.
4. Yaschur has nothing to do.

The accused could have questioned my words. Maybe they would have been believed more.

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Sky

Only someone who didn't follow the game and didn't read the newspaper didn't understand what your role was.

Ah, I understand. Only Arandor and Plesen follow the game and read the newspaper.:rolleyes:

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
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Registered: 11/2/2012

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#435 4/1/2013 4:46 PM UTC

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Excellent. For the first time in the last few games, a good and useful role, and they managed to pull it off on the second night, killing in the first round. The random element is cruel.

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Congratulations to the Mafia on their victory, Rudyy did a great job.

Registered: 9/13/2012

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#436 4/1/2013 4:47 PM UTC

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And in context, everything was clear.

It was clear to you because you are both MAFLOs and know each other.

people were just casting votes.

"Just casting votes," note that this happened only after the "confirmation" of my "outing" by the mod.

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

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Registered: 10/6/2012

Posts: 309

#437 4/1/2013 4:47 PM UTC

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Evil Lizard

1. Lizard - a checker (quantity: 3).
2. Lizard - a maniac who once redirected someone somewhere.
3. Lizard - a mafia member, covering up accomplices, Ment and Hermit.
4. Lizard has nothing better to do.

The accused could have questioned my words. Maybe they would have been believed more.

But in reality, in most cases, people believe the first person to come forward, let's say, the one who reveals themselves. Well, a mafia or a maniac wouldn't force events and risk so much in a relatively calm situation at the beginning of the game. Is the "nothing better to do" option a serious explanation? I don't think so, and I think it's clear why.

Registered: 12/20/2007

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#438 4/1/2013 4:49 PM UTC

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Regarding the incident, I've said everything I wanted to say. I'll just add that if you want to draw attention to yourself from the moderators and avoid getting banned, play psychological Mafia, or make hints so subtly and carefully that the GM doesn't notice them, but the attentive townspeople do.

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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