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Registered: 6/27/2011 10:37 AM UTC

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3/12/2013 6:38 PM UTC #232

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LeBron

if we don't take critical morale into account, then it's quite easy to achieve maximum damage with the GС.

I won't argue, I just don't understand. 12 volleys, maximum 3000 HP, so the lizards should deal 250 damage per volley.

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Registered: 10/8/2011 6:41 PM UTC

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3/12/2013 7:10 PM UTC #233

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Dimast

How can gnomes level 20 with Guild of Merchants, but without a cart, take on 35 green lizards and then defeat 40 gold golems? It seems a bit strange to me.

LeBron

If we don't take critical morale into account, then reaching the maximum level with Guild of Merchants is quite easy.

I'd like to see this "quite easy" in action. Can you make a video? :smile04:

Dimast

I won't argue, I just don't understand. 12 shots, maximum level, 3000 HP – so the lizards should take 250 HP per shot.

I think the maximum HP is 4000. Isn't it?
P.S. You're not alone in your misunderstanding :)

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Registered: 11/2/2012 11:14 AM UTC

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3/12/2013 7:34 PM UTC #234

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the last 25 dwarves were defeated by lizardmen and 15 gnolls.

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Registered: 10/30/2008 9:23 PM UTC

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3/12/2013 7:53 PM UTC #235

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12.03.2013 злой_романтик (Blue,Necro,Clavius,Gosha)def bubuch (Red,Dungeon,Shafter,Shafter) 6lm10a 314!:D
This was pure insanity, not a game—we sat down to play so many times I can't even remember them all:) I don't have the strength to describe it at length; from month 1, I had the Dead King's Cape, so bones piled up in stacks—there were 6500 of them in the FB!:D , but nowhere, neither in Dragon Utopias nor guilds, did they give Dimension Door:smile04: . I built GM5 in all my castles and nothing:smile53: , so I just couldn't catch the Dimension Door-using opponent, who, it seems, eventually got tired of this game of hide and seek himself and stayed waiting for Gosha, not far from my secondary town;)
In the FB, the magic parameters are roughly equal, but my attack/defense were about twice as bad (2 out of 3 Dragon Utopias were pure "Sod"-style—Captain's Hat, Bag of Gold, Torso of Legion, Orb of the Firmament, and other junk:smile48: ), but, as I said, there were 6.5k bones + 12 angels, 70+ wyverns, 30+ liches, and a handful of vampires and rags against 19 Chaos Hydras, 60 Minotaurs, 60+ wyverns, 250 Harpy Hags, 120+ Evil Eyes, 20+ Scorpicores, and a couple of Titans..
I managed to cast Anti-Magic on the skeletons after the dragons waited—felt a bit easier:) , then maneuvers under Oil (no Haste), hitting with Implosion and Meteor Shower, the opponent biting with harpies and shooting with eyes:p , but 6.5k is 6.5k.. the dragons got Anti-Moral a couple of times at the worst moment, the skeletons got through and GG:smile44: :smile20:
Thanks for the game, my longest match

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Registered: 10/8/2011 6:41 PM UTC

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3/12/2013 8:05 PM UTC #237

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Don't gnomes have 20 hit points, though?

P.S. It would be best if the author demonstrated it.

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3/12/2013 8:06 PM UTC #238

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LSM

Didn't dwarves have 20 HP?

Oops, yes, it turns out to be even more :D

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Registered: 12/23/2009 5:22 PM UTC

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3/12/2013 8:17 PM UTC #239

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03/12/2013 zloy_romantik (Blue, Necropolis, Claudius, Gosha) def bubuch (Red, Dungeon, Miner, Miner) 6lm10a 314!
I confirm, a terrible map with a one-sided advantage, no tempo in the early weeks.
Thanks for the game!

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Registered: 6/27/2011 10:37 AM UTC

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3/13/2013 4:22 AM UTC #240

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LSM

Didn't dwarves have 20 HP, though?

P.S. It would be best if the author demonstrated it.

20, but there are 30 of them at max, not 40, so it's not a constant.

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Registered: 6/7/2007 3:41 AM UTC

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3/13/2013 4:47 AM UTC #241

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LSM

I'd like to see how "quite easy" it is. Will you make a video? :smile04:

I tested it, and I think I exaggerated about how easy it is (I was considering taking Brogh with a starting army in the Veteran Tier, and I thought it would be even easier with Vistan). :rolleyes: With an army of 35 lizards, 30 gnolls, and 4 flies, Vistan 2, 5 with ranged attack, and maximum GS, it's taken with difficulty, with all the gnolls and 5-10 lizards being lost (depending on how the damage is distributed). But with 20, there are definitely no problems; the losses are 5-10 gnolls. This is, of course, without considering the morale of the gnolls and our army.
P.S. Regarding the topic, it would be really good to look at the saves. Are there really no ducks or a stack of gnolls on level 123?

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Registered: 3/13/2009 12:42 PM UTC

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3/13/2013 5:49 AM UTC #242

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sHoocK13 conceded the match. They played for four days, and he started having some serious internet issues that won't be fixed anytime soon (he wrote this in ICQ). sHoocK13 (10:09:22 12/03/2013) hi 98677240@qip.ru (10:09:41 12/03/2013) Hi! sHoocK13 (10:09:42 12/03/2013) I have a big problem with the internet, and I can't play for now. sHoocK13 (10:09:57 12/03/2013) So, you win the game, sorry. 98677240@qip.ru (10:10:12 12/03/2013) :( Disappointed. 98677240@qip.ru (10:10:28 12/03/2013) Thanks for the time, hope we play another time. sHoocK13 (10:10:28 12/03/2013) I'm now at work and can write, but at home, I don't have internet right now. sHoocK13 (10:10:32 12/03/2013) Really sorry. In short, I won't post a report here.

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Registered: 11/5/2009 11:56 AM UTC

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3/13/2013 6:07 AM UTC #243

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LeBron

if we don't take critical morale into account, then it's quite easy to achieve the maximum score with the Vista.

As far as I remember, Sem56 made a video about how to get the maximum score on level 1 with the Vista. I also remember getting the maximum score on level 1, but only with a Lizards upgrade.

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Registered: 1/5/2012 4:51 AM UTC

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3/13/2013 6:18 AM UTC #244

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123. The turn lasted almost 30 minutes. First, with 35 un-upgraded Lizardmen, I almost got wrecked at a Dwarf Cottage with 20 Grade-stacked [units]; then I decided to take down the Gold Golems near the beehive — there were about 40 of them. I killed them at the cost of losing around 30 Troglodytes, all the Gnolls, and 20 out of 35 Lizardmen. Overall, I think I got lucky here)

Tough but doable + a bit of luck.

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Registered: 9/23/2012 4:41 PM UTC

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3/13/2013 7:47 AM UTC #245

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RomarioGrom

seems like Sem56, who some remember, made a video on how to take a max on the 1st with Vistan; I also remember taking a max on the 1st myself, but only with an upgrade of the Lich

In that video, there is a small nuance — Yabarkas with 12 Orcs was additionally purchased for Vistan, and quite a few Gnolls also arrived (this is with the starting Vistan).
In SoD, a large Dwarf Cottage on the first is confidently taken only with a Hydra, due to its abilities, or if there are additional troops from caches.

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Registered: 10/8/2011 6:41 PM UTC

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3/13/2013 10:38 AM UTC #246

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Dimast

They have 30 of them at maximum, not 40. That's not consistent.

I agree. I don't understand why I decided that the maximum is 40 (c).

LeBron

I tested it, and I think I exaggerated about it being easy (I was considering the case of taking the starting army of Brogh with War Tent, and I thought it would be even easier with Vistan):rolleyes: With an army of 35 lizards, 30 gnolls, and 4 flies, Vistan 2 5 with expert archery, the maximum level is taken with difficulty, losing all the gnolls and 5-10 lizards (depending on how the damage is distributed). But with 20, there are definitely no problems, with losses of 5-10 gnolls. This is, of course, without considering the morale of the gnolls and our army.
P.S. Regarding the topic, it would be really good to look at the saves. Is it possible that there are no ducks or a stack of gnolls on turn 123?

As far as I understand, you tested it with War Tent?

The participants of the game should have a save file. Please upload it. I really want to understand how the dwarven fortress was taken with 20 units and how the gold golems were killed, because we're just guessing here, and then it turns out that there was, for example, another group of beholder or elves, etc.

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Registered: 6/7/2007 3:41 AM UTC

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3/13/2013 10:53 AM UTC #247

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tested SoD with the Spirit of Despair.

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