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What steps should the developers take regarding Heroes 5?
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Make minor improvements and release it by the end of March
15.4% 10 votes
Refine bug fixes more carefully and postpone the release date.
29.2% 19 votes
Careful refinement, postponement of release, another test, further refinement, release
55.4% 36 votes
In reply to Pearl
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20 years ago
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Pearl
I don't remember noticing this tradition continuing in the 4th game...
But they did! The fourth game came with a great map editor...
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I mean the random map generator.
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Night
Why is it that the fourths came right away with a great editor...
Great? Well... uhhh... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Let's be honest, the interface is weak; nothing is clear, and you can't make heads or tails of anything at first. Later, of course, you get used to it =) But I just can't bring myself to call it "great." I tried working in the editors for both part 3 and part 4. I liked the one for 3 much more, because it is simply easier =) Perhaps that's a relative opinion. Well, that's why it's MY opinion :)

And as for 5, working with the editor will probably be even harder. I hope they remove the inconvenient interface =( By the way, you are right — an editor is not just important, but essential. Without it, Heroes are no longer Heroes =)
Pearl
I mean, the random map generator.

Now that will probably take a lot of time in five... If, of course, the random is as random as it was in 3 ;)
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it would be completely random!
otherwise, without a random generator, Heroes 5 is useless!
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Imp
This will probably take a lot of time in the fifth game... If, of course, the randomness is as random as it was in the third ;)
In the third game, there wasn't any randomness at first, and in the fourth, there definitely wasn't any... And in the fifth, I think there won't be any either; after all, it's a 3D map, and it takes a long time to generate it:)
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What kind of random generation is needed in Heroes 5? I don't think it's necessary. Have you seen the random maps in Heroes 3? Well, who enjoys playing on a map that looks like a pile of garbage? I definitely think that people should create and design maps with a well-thought-out gameplay. There are people who create excellent maps. Heroes 5, with its graphics, cannot tolerate such a thing as random generation. After all, you'll agree that it's much more enjoyable to play on maps where everything is "balanced."
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20 years ago
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You know how annoying it is to play on the same maps over and over again? ;)
I've been playing for 6 years on just 3 maps. And you can hardly expect any sensible multiplayer matches. And the map generator in Heroes of Might and Magic III isn't that bad. You just don't know how to use it. :D
By the way, it seems that the release will be without an editor and without a generator. It will be a bare version, practically. ;) (I'm not responsible for the accuracy of this information).
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Varg-Nar
What kind of random generation is that? It's not needed in Heroes 5. Did you see the random generation in Heroes 3? Well, who enjoys playing on a map that's been thrown together like a pile of garbage? I definitely think that people should create maps and think through the gameplay; there are people who create wonderful maps. Heroes 5, with its graphics, can't tolerate such a thing as random generation. After all, you'll agree that it's so nice to play on maps where everything is "balanced."
And do you know how (!!!) nice it is to play on a new map that no one has ever played before!...
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You know how annoying it is to play on the same maps
Try playing for 6 years on 3 maps. And you can't expect any sensible people to make mods either. But the generator in 3 isn't that bad. You just don't know how to use it properly.
By the way, it seems like the release will be without the editor and without the generator. Like a practically bare version. (I can't vouch for the accuracy)
Tell me about it, I'm tired of playing the same maps myself.:( I'm tired of looking for new ones on the net (of good quality). So all that's left is the random generator—not great, but it exists. I'm not saying I don't play random maps, I do and I have to. Where else can you go?;)
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20 years ago
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Okay guys, I downloaded the full version, played it, and I'm telling you right away:

1) They fixed the mercury – it now looks more like mercury and is no longer a pale blue bottle.

2) There are very few maps available – about 8 single-player maps. There seem to be around 15 for multiplayer.

3) There is no random map generator.

4) I really liked the music!

5) A sound has been added for the start of the week, changing quests, or gaining a skill/spell.

Overall: the game lived up to expectations, and I really enjoyed the full version. I had to write a 7-page essay for tomorrow, and I barely managed to force myself to do it. And then straight into the game!
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20 years ago
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A random map generator is absolutely essential! Without it, the game isn't really a game.
I really like the generator in the third game! It's better to have something than nothing.
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Well, the lack of a map generator and the small number of scenarios is not surprising – after all, the fifth installment of Heroes focuses on the campaign...
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20 years ago
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well, they'll complete the campaign... or get stuck along the way... and then what?
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20 years ago
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:) And then an expansion pack with a new campaign, maps, and new features! What prevents Nival from taking HoMM5 in the direction of the other games!? Why is Ubi experimenting!? :(

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