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The ICQ client only works in a web browser, and the logs are not saved.
Most likely, the history is stored on the server, but I'm not sure.
And another question: if a person has signed up for a tournament, shouldn't they monitor the tournament forum?
He must monitor the forum, but this does not affect your agreement without considering the correspondence from ICQ, because by writing something on the forum, you can talk about something else in a private message. Therefore, shoock13 must provide your correspondence and confirm or deny the words that he did not write you the dates and times for the game.
In addition, when finishing the game on a save, you should have immediately agreed on a date and time to continue the game.
To Shoock13: So, how do you agree to play?
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
My point of view is simple. Kilgor, learn to use Google Translate and find a time that works for both of you to play. I understand that the time window that is convenient for both of you is very short due to the time difference, but that is not a reason to postpone the technical results because of one player's activity in the tournament thread (especially since Shuk is communicating with you in ICQ, just at a time that is inconvenient for you, but not for him). Look for a compromise, play on weekends, I don't know... Goomunguls, I wrote to you: I'm ready to play now, come on, you coward. Now, again: there's no point in writing in the tournament thread, contact me in ICQ, you have my work ICQ, I'm there all week, what's the point of chirping in the tournament thread again? So that you have something to show the organizer? Okay, I was ready to play today, from 9 PM Moscow time until whenever. Where are you? Added 1 minute ago Ah yes, and time is ticking.
You have the wrong point of view about everything... Firstly, the tournament is not held in America, and if Shok signed up, he should translate into Russian... and if Kilgor is accommodating him and communicating in English, then he should also be accommodating... Regarding our game, your "I'm ready now" is complete nonsense. I can also say that I'm ready now, where are you??... I wrote to you in advance in ICQ to arrange a game, and we didn't play most of the round because you couldn't, and I wrote here not for the organizer, but for you, and I did the right thing since you responded faster, especially since you don't answer messages in ICQ. Write to me when you can and we'll arrange a time to play, otherwise I'm not going to adjust to you on the last day.
Hi , i send msg to kilgor when can i play and he know i can play 19 00 my time saturday , sunday and monday . I can show my history comunication with kilgor!
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I confirm that Shock was active during the negotiations. The game interruption was initiated by Kilgore; throughout the negotiations, Shock remained active and responded to messages whenever possible.
Continue negotiating...
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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Hi, I sent a message to Kilgor asking when I can play, and he knows I can play at 19:00 my time on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. I can show you my communication history with Kilgor!
19:00 your time is 22:00 Moscow time and 3 AM my time. At this time, it's not an option for me to play.
The last time, the game was interrupted because of me. Before that, it was because of Shook.
I would also like to see the message where he wrote to me that he can play from 19:00 on weekends.
Due to the fact that the time is General, we won't be able to find a suitable time. Please ask the organizer to schedule a time for us to finish the game.
I confirm that Shook was active during the negotiations. The game was interrupted at Kilgor's initiative; Shook was active throughout the negotiations and responded to all messages when he could.
I understand that he sent you a log with messages. Can you share a couple of phrases where he says he can play from 19:00 his time on weekends? The phrases might have been something like "maybe tomorrow..."
Currently, he wrote to me offline:
in response to the phrase:
I can play from 6:00 to 22:00 (start no later than 18:00) Moscow time, any day. At what time and what day can you play?
Here's what:
shock13 (12:03:52 3/02/2013)
Offline message (01:55:33 3/02/2013)
now i can play
shock13 (12:03:52 3/02/2013)
Offline message (01:55:29 3/02/2013)
Hi
shock13 (12:03:52 3/02/2013)
Offline message (01:56:04 3/02/2013)
Hi
shock13 (12:03:52 3/02/2013)
Offline message (01:56:08 3/02/2013)
Hi
shock13 (12:03:52 3/02/2013)
Offline message (01:56:14 3/02/2013)
now i can play
I asked clearly, but there's no answer. How can we come to an agreement with him?
P.S. And here's another thing: you, Max, say that you confirm that he was active during our negotiations. First, as I already wrote, I would like to see a log of his messages where he said that he can play on weekends from 19:00. And second, where was he on Sunday, the 27th? I played a tournament with Twaryna, there are no logs, but we clearly finished after 3 AM (as seen in the stream).
ICQ 245338291 Ник в лоби - Kilgory
R55Max
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So, we sorted things out in the private messages (Kilgor was missing some messages from Shoock).
I schedule the match Shoock13 vs Kilgor for 05.02.2013 at 18:00 Moscow time. In case of delays, we wait for each other for 1 hour. Failure to show up or being more than an hour late will result in a technical defeat.
Added 5 hours and 37 minutes later Gomunguls requested that a match be scheduled, as no agreement had been reached. I schedule the match Gomunguls vs BA/IEHOK for 05.02.2013 at 18:00 Moscow time. In case of delays, we wait for each other for 1 hour. Failure to show up or being more than an hour late will result in a technical defeat.
To BA/IEHOK: You need to agree on the ICQ account that you specify when registering for the tournament, or at least warn your opponent about a different ICQ account.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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Kilgor, forgive me if I offend you now, but I will say this: Shuk is not a Russian player – it is initially difficult for him to have access to the forum, firstly, because he doesn't understand anything and sometimes asks me to help him with where to go and how to do things, and secondly, I think it's difficult for him to communicate in a non-native language (his native language is not English). In this regard, you need to have at least some conscience and be more tolerant of people like him, and not write all sorts of nonsense here about how you are supposedly being ignored, especially in the final of the tournament.
Now, moving on from Shuk to the topic of "mooshnerstvo" (presumably referring to unsportsmanlike behavior or griefing)... I'll start with Yegor... As much as I like this person, he's behaving terribly in this final. Despite the fact that we've already played the second game of the round for a long time, almost daily, I offer him to continue playing in the next round, and in response, I get approximately the following answers: "I'm tired, I don't want to, I can't, I'm tired..." Almost immediately after some of these answers, I see him streaming fan games and other tournaments (I don't understand the point). Don't be offended, YEGOR... And you, Kilgor, are complaining about Shuk, who hasn't received a single complaint throughout the tournament up to the final, and about the fact that he didn't answer your specific question?! Go back to the beginning of my post, starting with the words "secondly," I can only say that he never ignores anyone, and he is sometimes online on ICQ! I can't judge how often or not. And perhaps the only one from your team, Vitaly, behaves calmly and measuredly; he clearly has experience and confidence!
1) English is not my native language either, so, in your words:
I think it's hard for him to communicate in a non-native language (his native language is not English).
2) You're talking about conscience, about tolerance? Notice that I didn't write all this at once, but after a considerable amount of time, because I couldn't come to an agreement with Shook. He wrote to me on 02/02 that he could only play at 7:00 PM on weekends, and that's not an option for me.
3) Regarding being ignored: I saw him on ICQ twice during the entire second game, and we played both times.
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And you, esteemed Kilgore, are complaining about Shook, against whom no complaints were filed throughout the tournament until the final.
Were there any complaints against me?
Let's look at the facts. During this time, I played tournaments against: Mizrael, Zhawdet, Stinger, and Tvarina (who, by the way, is in Kyiv time!). And I told each of the opponents that: "If Shook shows up, we'll postpone the match."
I also wrote this so that we could be assigned a specific time to finish the game.
So, Drakkello, you're writing nonsense, and if you're such a defender of Shook, help us find common ground.
P.S. And also regarding Yegor. First, he has the right not to play the third game right now, and second, don't confuse a tournament and a fun game; you need to prepare for a tournament.
ICQ 245338291 Ник в лоби - Kilgory
Егор Коробейников
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Yegor is a cool guy (I'm talking about myself).
icq - 470286448
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2nd round Troglodytes in the fog - InTeam 0LL-0WW. 18.01.2012 Kilgor (blue, Rampart, Alishar, Clavius/Galtran) lose shoock13 (red, Dungeon, Shacti) Nostalgia 142
I also had a restart, a double came, and despite the fact that Shacti is playing there.
Week 1, spawned a small central respawn without external dwellings, I level Clavius, Necro, took an Inferno computer. Everything is terrible, attacked a block near the double with 20-49 Gogs, there are 48 of them, came out with 3 Dwarves, then pulled up Rogues decided to grab a mine with 10-19 Flies. 18 Flies with some kind of Griffin Conservatory killed both Rogues. Week 2, I take the double, start to gradually develop. Caught Gosha. I level both, Necro and Demoniac simultaneously. Entered a maximum Dragon Utopia - let it sit until better times. Week 3, on day 132 a box at level 4 + a Tier 3 Dragon Utopia, there gave Wings. A Necro Hero under level 20, no one has been given a Log yet. Ate 3 more Dragon Utopias, including the max one, gave artifacts only in the max. But on day 136, through ГО, Shacti bursts in, kills all the Unicorns, Pit Fiends, Elves, and Rogues on the Lošak. On day 142, Shacter with Gauntlets, Log, Stables, and Boots reaches Clavius on the run :( .
Thanks for the game.
P.S. From the stronghold's side there was: external dwelling of Manticores + a single Griffin Conservatory, a classic dammit + a native Treasure Vault, with 2 external dwellings of Dragons!
ICQ 245338291 Ник в лоби - Kilgory
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and didn't you play it a lot? by the way, there were 9 dragons, specifically Black Dragons :) not counting the 2 in the town, I was very surprised by that number :)
Didn't you play the original game? By the way, there were 9 dragons, specifically Black Dragons :) not counting the 2 in the town, I was very surprised by that number :)
Fixed. What's there to be surprised about? It was immediately clear that this was the original treasure.
well, for level 142 with 11 black dragons, that's a lot of money.
I saw him scouting and noticed he was heading towards the center; taking 3-4 Dragon Utopia units would give him enough resources. I think I had around 50k at level 132, and he has more. It’s unfortunate that he arrived at level 136; I was expecting him at level 137.
ICQ 245338291 Ник в лоби - Kilgory
R55Max
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The series score is 1-1. No one wants to lose, keep it up, guys!
Regarding the negotiation stage, please keep us updated. Everyone was partially right; controversial situations can be considered part of the gameplay, so there's nothing wrong with that.
If you can't come to an agreement, be sure to let us know as soon as possible (logs are required).
Game 3 - by 02/18/2012 (inclusive). If the game is played on a save: the mandatory date for finishing the game is 02/20/2013 at 6:00 PM (Moscow time).
Added 16 minutes later Yes, by the way, don't forget to upload the saves.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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