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Barnabas
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I sold twice as many copies.
It's really disappointing. 250,000 copies sold worldwide! That's very few.
The DLC will sell twice as little. What are they hoping for?
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Adagio
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What are they hoping to achieve?
Judging by their latest projects, they are aiming to transition the brand to a free-to-play online model. :smile04:
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Judging by the latest projects, the brand is moving towards a free online mode. :smile04:
:smile52: No one would have thought that Heroes would end up in such a state. Soon, the game itself will weigh only 5 KB and will be specifically for browsers. It's simply impossible to go any lower.
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Soon, the game itself will weigh only 5 KB and will be specifically designed for browsers.
It's getting closer.



But this is already off-topic.
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Barnabas
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Did you pre-order the game?
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Adagio
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:smile01: And I convinced two more acquaintances to do the same.
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Barnabas
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I'm not sure if it's allowed to post links to other fan sites for Heroes here, but for now, I'll just use words. A new hero will appear, and Sandro will be in the campaign. I think I'll buy this expansion pack after all.
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DEViL15071994
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Guys, I read what you wrote. Is 400 rubles too much to pay for the add-on? Hmm... and even for the pre-order bonuses... yeah, that's greedy. But it's a shame to pay 900 rubles for it, that's for sure! The thing is, in all Russian online stores, it costs 400 rubles, but on Uplay, it's 900. The only difference is that if you buy "Shades of Darkness" on Uplay, you get not only the 3 weapons and bonus hero that are available in all Russian online stores, but also a unique staff. The Staff of Sar-Agretta. So, the question is, is it worth it for a Russian customer to pay twice as much for one more bonus, a unique dynasty weapon? That's a valid question. True fans will definitely buy it. What about you?
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Guys, I read what you wrote. Is it a pity to spend 400 rubles on an expansion? Hmm... and even for the pre-order bonuses... yeah, that's greed. But it's a pity to pay 900 rubles for it, that's for sure! It's just that in all Russian online stores, it costs 400 rubles, but on Uplay, it's 900. And only if you buy "Shades of Darkness" on Uplay, you get not only the 3 weapons and bonus hero that are available in all Russian online stores, but also a unique staff. The Staff of Sar-Agreth. And here's the question: is it worth it for a Russian buyer to pay twice as much for one more bonus artifact? That's a worthwhile question. True fans will definitely buy it. What about you?
But there's no need to pressure people with "are you a true fan?". That's at least stupid. They're enticing me with three artifacts, and I have one question: "What do I need them for?". I play perfectly fine without them. And paying 400 rubles for them seems a bit strange.
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I am a true fan of Heroes. And it's not about my greed, but about the greed of the developers.
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DEViL15071994
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No, that's not what I meant. I didn't mean anything like that! We're all true fans here, that's why we're reading this on the forum. It was just irony. Of course, not many people will buy it on Uplay. Paying twice as much for a staff is ridiculous! I'll personally get it for 400, and that's it. And I don't care that there won't be a staff. Maybe it will appear in the future. The point isn't that. I was just asking everyone a question: how will you buy it? It's like a poll. And that's all. Nothing more. Oh, and Barnabas (I think I spelled the nickname correctly in Russian; if not, I apologize), why do you think you're overpaying for the extras? It's the opposite! Usually, when you pre-order, you get free bonuses and pay less. Well, not always about the second part, but only in some games, but it does happen. So there are no downsides to pre-ordering. If you want to check, wait until the 30th and buy the expansion. It will cost the same, but there won't be any bonuses. That's it. There are no "bonus editions" that cost more. It's just that you get a "gift" as a bonus for buying the "regular edition" because you're a fan of the series, you're looking forward to the game, and you pre-ordered. You don't have to pay for these bonuses. It's just silly, if you're a fan (no offense), and you're going to buy it anyway, not to take advantage of this opportunity. Don't wait for the expansion to come out and then suddenly it will cost 199 rubles. That won't happen. The price will be the same or even higher. But I agree with you that the developers are greedy. It's just that Uplay is a Western (American) store, and in such stores, everything is always twice as expensive. Even Steam, which has agreements with Russian manufacturers and uses the Russian currency, has higher prices. Take the same DLCs – I bought them for 150 in Gamzaver, but the same DLC costs 250 on Steam. And Uplay is purely a Western store. And if you convert it to rubles, it's even more expensive. It's just that these prices are normal for the "West." But for us, when we see prices that are twice as low, and games usually don't exceed 500 rubles, it seems very expensive. And only wealthy guys who have money to burn, or for "show," buy "goods" from Western online stores.
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Barnabas
But there's no need to pressure people by asking "are you a real fan?". That's just silly. I'm tempted by the three dynasty weapons, but I have one question: "Why do I even need them?". I play perfectly fine without them. And paying 400 rubles for them seems a bit strange.
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I am a true fan of Heroes. And this isn't about my greed, but about the greed of the developers.
Two years ago, there were already many "disappointed" players who claimed that the beta testing, access to which was granted with a pre-order of the collector's edition, wasn't worth 1000 rubles, forgetting that they were primarily paying for the full version of the game upon its release, along with bonuses. The testing key was just a gift. The same applies here: you pay for the full version of the game, and in addition, you get 3 dynasty weapons and 1 hero. 400 rubles is a normal price for a standalone expansion. This is what DEViL15071994 was trying to say.
DEViL15071994
uPlay is a Western (American) store, and in such stores, everything is always twice as expensive. Even Steam. And even the one that has contracts with Russian manufacturers and values the Russian currency has higher prices. Take the same DLCs - I bought them for 150 in Gamanza, but the same DLC costs 250 on Steam. And uPlay is generally a purely Western store. And if you convert it to rubles, it's even more expensive. It's just that these prices are within the norm for the "West". But for us: when we see prices that are twice as low, and games usually don't exceed 500 rubles, then it's very expensive. And only wealthy guys, who don't know what to do with their money, or buy "products" from Western online stores "to show off."
UbiSoft is a French company, so uPlay, which is one of their products, also cannot be American. You are right about the prices: the standard of living in Europe is higher, so the prices are higher. You can pay extra to play not in a "Russian reservation," which various publishers are stubbornly creating, but with people from all over the world. And the more players there are, the better for online play.
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DEViL15071994
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Winner, that's exactly what I was trying to say. Yes, it's a French game. I just used the term "Western" figuratively, not entirely accurately. In all Western stores, DLCs and games generally cost more than they do here. Shukfir, many people have probably seen this method. But having a "license" is more satisfying. However, I don't see the point in paying 500 rubles more for it, especially since you can "hack" it.
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Barnabas
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Uplay is just a bourgeois store. And if you convert the prices to rubles, it's even more expensive there.
Money isn't a problem for me. Thank God, I can afford to buy all the DLCs and even one subpar add-on. What surprises me is something else. Three dynasty weapons and a new race (they already had some groundwork for it!) and the developers are pushing it as an add-on. If that's the case, they could have included 2 races, 6 dynasty weapons, several objects for battle maps, a decent map editor, and a few more extras. Nothing particularly significant. All of this can be done if they wanted to. The groundwork is already there.
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